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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: faithlilly on September 01, 2013, 11:01:43 AM

Title: Yet Again the McCanns Hide Behind Others When Called to Account
Post by: faithlilly on September 01, 2013, 11:01:43 AM
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/425994/Madeleine-Fresh-agony-for-Kate-and-Gerry-McCann

Notice in the whole article there is not one direct quote from Scotland Yard and it also seems the McCanns's family are allowed to heap scorn on the Portuguese police but not the McCanns themselves.

Is this an extra fast spin cycle set on colours, mainly pink ?
Title: Re: Yet Again the McCanns Hide Behind Others When Called to Account
Post by: stephen25000 on September 01, 2013, 11:07:48 AM
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/425994/Madeleine-Fresh-agony-for-Kate-and-Gerry-McCann

Notice in the whole article there is not one direct quote from Scotland Yard and it also seems the McCanns's family are allowed to heap scorn on the Portuguese police but not the McCanns themselves.

Is this an extra fast spin cycle set on colours, mainly pink ?

Indeed, it is an act of moral cowardice as to why they are not there.

The pretense of not drawing attention is a joke , given their behaviour over the last 6 years.

It is more to do with the simple fact that Mitchell will not be able to control press 'interviews' as he does over here.

 
Title: Re: Yet Again the McCanns Hide Behind Others When Called to Account
Post by: Benice on September 01, 2013, 11:09:27 AM
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/425994/Madeleine-Fresh-agony-for-Kate-and-Gerry-McCann

Notice in the whole article there is not one direct quote from Scotland Yard and it also seems the McCanns's family are allowed to heap scorn on the Portuguese police but not the McCanns themselves.

Is this an extra fast spin cycle set on colours, mainly pink ?

Why are you holding the McCanns responsible for something written in a newspaper?   The only credible comment is the following - the rest are from unnamed 'sources' which means they are probably fabricated.

Their spokesman Clarence Mitchell said yesterday: “The court process in Portugal is in the hands of Kate and Gerry’s lawyers and is purely a matter for them to proceed with.”

What is there to criticise in that comment?



Title: Re: Yet Again the McCanns Hide Behind Others When Called to Account
Post by: ferryman on September 01, 2013, 11:11:51 AM
What is there to criticise in that comment?

Why, that it was made by Clarence Mitchell, silly ...
Title: Re: Yet Again the McCanns Hide Behind Others When Called to Account
Post by: faithlilly on September 01, 2013, 11:21:53 AM
Why are you holding the McCanns responsible for something written in a newspaper?   The only credible comment is the following - the rest are from unnamed 'sources' which means they are probably fabricated.

Their spokesman Clarence Mitchell said yesterday: “The court process in Portugal is in the hands of Kate and Gerry’s lawyers and is purely a matter for them to proceed with.”

What is there to criticise in that comment?

So do you believe we will see the McCanns in Lisbon then Benice and the article is just more media speculation ?
Title: Re: Yet Again the McCanns Hide Behind Others When Called to Account
Post by: Benice on September 01, 2013, 11:36:08 AM
So do you believe we will see the McCanns in Lisbon then Benice and the article is just more media speculation ?

You have missed the point.  IMO you were unfairly attributing the content of the article to the McCanns/family/friends as some sort of 'ploy' by them  - and that is what I was objecting to.     

The only credible comment is the one by Clarence Mitchell which pours scorn on no-one and merely states the facts.
Title: Re: Yet Again the McCanns Hide Behind Others When Called to Account
Post by: faithlilly on September 01, 2013, 12:04:33 PM
You have missed the point.  IMO you were unfairly attributing the content of the article to the McCanns/family/friends as some sort of 'ploy' by them  - and that is what I was objecting to.     

The only credible comment is the one by Clarence Mitchell which pours scorn on no-one and merely states the facts.

Then we will wait with baited breath to see whether the McCanns/family/friends prove to be correct and the McCanns avoid appearing next week.
Title: Re: Yet Again the McCanns Hide Behind Others When Called to Account
Post by: Lyall on September 01, 2013, 12:11:35 PM
You have missed the point.  IMO you were unfairly attributing the content of the article to the McCanns/family/friends as some sort of 'ploy' by them  - and that is what I was objecting to.     

The only credible comment is the one by Clarence Mitchell which pours scorn on no-one and merely states the facts.

He's a pro, there's no doubt about that.
Title: Re: Yet Again the McCanns Hide Behind Others When Called to Account
Post by: ferryman on September 01, 2013, 12:15:32 PM
Then we will wait with baited breath to see whether the McCanns/family/friends prove to be correct and the McCanns avoid appearing next week.

Why do you warp have no need to appear to avoid appearing?

If Amaral (or particularly his legal team) fail to show that will be avoidance.

There is only one party running away from this libel trial, and it sure aint the McCanns ...
Title: Re: Yet Again the McCanns Hide Behind Others When Called to Account
Post by: faithlilly on September 01, 2013, 12:25:57 PM
Why do you warp have no need to appear to avoid appearing?

If Amaral (or particularly his legal team) fail to show that will be avoidance.

There is only one party running away from this libel trial, and it sure aint the McCanns ...

They had no 'need' to appear in 2010 but did. Perhaps they are less hopefull of success this time eh ?
Title: Re: Yet Again the McCanns Hide Behind Others When Called to Account
Post by: stephen25000 on September 01, 2013, 12:52:01 PM
Why do you warp have no need to appear to avoid appearing?

If Amaral (or particularly his legal team) fail to show that will be avoidance.

There is only one party running away from this libel trial, and it sure aint the McCanns ...

We shall see.

Whoever loses it, presuming of course it goes ahead, will appeal.
Title: Re: Yet Again the McCanns Hide Behind Others When Called to Account
Post by: Carana on September 01, 2013, 05:01:44 PM
They had no 'need' to appear in 2010 but did. Perhaps they are less hopefull of success this time eh ?

They didn't have the reassurance of a joint Met/PJ investigation back then, did they?
Title: Re: Yet Again the McCanns Hide Behind Others When Called to Account
Post by: Rachel Granada on September 01, 2013, 05:08:31 PM
They didn't have the reassurance of a joint Met/PJ investigation back then, did they?

Very good point, Carana. 

Go, Isabel!
Title: Re: Yet Again the McCanns Hide Behind Others When Called to Account
Post by: faithlilly on September 01, 2013, 05:17:43 PM
They didn't have the reassurance of a joint Met/PJ investigation back then, did they?

I can't see your point Carana. Surely if they, as you say, have the SY/PJ to back them they should be more confident of victory. Their non-appearance suggests that is not the case.

Of course it will also be hard to argue that Amaral's book is harming the search for Madeleine when the SY investgation is giving her, allegedly, the best chance of being found.
Title: Re: Yet Again the McCanns Hide Behind Others When Called to Account
Post by: ferryman on September 01, 2013, 06:34:05 PM
Faith Lilly:

... they should be more confident of victory. Their non-appearance suggests that is not the case.

Why?
Title: Re: Yet Again the McCanns Hide Behind Others When Called to Account
Post by: Lace on September 01, 2013, 07:25:42 PM
I can't see your point Carana. Surely if they, as you say, have the SY/PJ to back them they should be more confident of victory. Their non-appearance suggests that is not the case.

Of course it will also be hard to argue that Amaral's book is harming the search for Madeleine when the SY investgation is giving her, allegedly, the best chance of being found.
...



Six years later,  faithfully.



Amaral's book did harm the search for Madeleine,  people were told she was dead.   If there were people who were thinking of informing the PJ of something they remembered about the 3rd of May,   hearing that they thought Madeleine was dead do you think they would bother going to tell the PJ what they knew?

People were calling in with sightings and told that it couldn't be Madeleine, that she was dead.

Coming from the person who was the Co-ordinator of the case, saying he thought Madeleine was dead and that the McCann's had hidden her body.    What do you think the people of Portugal
 would think?    This is a senior ex police officer saying this. 
Title: Re: Yet Again the McCanns Hide Behind Others When Called to Account
Post by: Lace on September 01, 2013, 07:27:45 PM
Sorry admin I've messed up my post again    8()-000(
Title: Re: Yet Again the McCanns Hide Behind Others When Called to Account
Post by: Angelo222 on September 02, 2013, 03:26:43 AM
Isn't everyone making a very big assumption here and that is that the PJ will open any investigation??

A letter of request has been sent to the Portuguese but what response has there been in nearly two weeks??

The Sunday Express article speaks of the McCanns renewed agony but they are the ones bringing the action.  If they had an ounce of sense they would bring the whole ridiculous action to an end because by continuing all they are doing is giving Amaral publicity and a platform to promote his book.

As for searching for Madeleine, where are they searching??  Rothley??
Title: Re: Yet Again the McCanns Hide Behind Others When Called to Account
Post by: sadie on September 02, 2013, 09:34:42 PM
Isn't everyone making a very big assumption here and that is that the PJ will open any investigation??

A letter of request has been sent to the Portuguese but what response has there been in nearly two weeks??

The Sunday Express article speaks of the McCanns renewed agony but they are the ones bringing the action.  If they had an ounce of sense they would bring the whole ridiculous action to an end because by continuing all they are doing is giving Amaral publicity and a platform to promote his book.

As for searching for Madeleine, where are they searching??  Rothley??
We will have to wait and see Angelo.

But they have reputedly the best people in World searching for them.  Best to let them get on with it.