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Alleged Miscarriages of Justice => Jeremy Bamber and the callous murder of his father, mother, sister and twin nephews. Case effectively CLOSED by CCRC on basis of NO APPEAL REFERRAL. => Topic started by: John on April 07, 2012, 11:47:47 PM

Title: The murder weapon was too long for Sheila
Post by: John on April 07, 2012, 11:47:47 PM
The rifle which Sheila Caffell was murdered was an Anschütz .22 semi-automatic rifle manufactured in Germany. despite its small calibre (.22) its bullets travel at high velocity causing terrible damage.

At the trial of Jeremy Bamber, the length of the weapon was considered more important than its power. With his sound moderator fitted the weapon measured 1.24 m.  To reach the trigger and shooting herself in the chin, Sheila would require an arm length of over 91cm.

In order to show that suicide was an impossibility, forensic's expert Glynis Howard lay on the floor of the courtroom holding the rifle between her knees and attempted to reach the trigger without success.

Here is a another photograph of the Anschütz .22 semi-automatic rifle with sound moderator fitted which clearly shows just how long it actually was with the silencer fitted.  It really was a quite cumbersome piece of kit to manoeuvre in any enclosed space.


(http://i.imgur.com/3QFW0.jpg)

An Anschütz .22 semi-automatic rifle with sound moderator fitted.
Title: Re: The murder weapon was too long for Sheila
Post by: puglove on April 07, 2012, 11:55:10 PM
Tesko, who has replaced Smiffy with Packagebuilder so that he can still talk to himself, is calling for the twins' bodies to be "exhumed." A new low for that forum.
Title: Re: The murder weapon was too long for Sheila
Post by: John on April 08, 2012, 12:00:34 AM
Tesko, who has replaced Smiffy with Packagebuilder so that he can still talk to himself, is calling for the twins' bodies to be "exhumed." A new low for that forum.


I haven't bothered with the rubbish they are writing over there lately, what do they hope to achieve by that?


ps   It might help if Tesko could even spell Anschütz!
Title: Re: The murder weapon was too long for Sheila
Post by: puglove on April 08, 2012, 12:04:27 AM
Tesko, who has replaced Smiffy with Packagebuilder so that he can still talk to himself, is calling for the twins' bodies to be "exhumed." A new low for that forum.

I'm not sure who edited this post for me, but tesko used the word "resumed" when I presume he meant "exhumed."
Title: Re: The murder weapon was too long for Sheila
Post by: John on April 08, 2012, 12:07:20 AM
 8-)(--)     I edited it as I usually pick up things like that.   Not to worry, says much about Tesko though!


Tesko's a proper Charlie.    @)(++(*
Title: Re: The murder weapon was too long for Sheila
Post by: Harvey on April 08, 2012, 12:11:56 AM
Tesko, who has replaced Smiffy with Packagebuilder so that he can still talk to himself, is calling for the twins' bodies to be "exhumed." A new low for that forum.

I'm not sure who edited this post for me, but tesko used the word "resumed" when I presume he meant "exhumed."

He wants to recover one of the bullets from one of the twins.  Not that they haven't got another 20 odd to play with already.  I wish him luck persuading Colin Caffell on that one.
Title: Re: The murder weapon was too long for Sheila
Post by: puglove on April 08, 2012, 12:15:37 AM
8-)(--)     I edited it as I usually pick up things like that.   Not to worry, says much about Tesko though!


He's a proper Charlie.    @)(++(*

Unlike 90% of the Bamber forum's members I am literate, John. But Tesko is a proper Charlie.  8@??)(
Title: Re: The murder weapon was too long for Sheila
Post by: John on April 08, 2012, 12:16:27 AM
Tesko, who has replaced Smiffy with Packagebuilder so that he can still talk to himself, is calling for the twins' bodies to be "exhumed." A new low for that forum.

I'm not sure who edited this post for me, but tesko used the word "resumed" when I presume he meant "exhumed."

He wants to recover one of the bullets from one of the twins.  Not that they haven't got another 20 odd to play with already.  I wish him luck persuading Colin Caffell on that one.


He is an insensitive piece of work alright. Is he now suggesting that poor innocent Sheila had access to different ammunition now?   I also notice in Shaws manuscript that he states that two weapons were used that morning to kill the family. It seems he has some special knowledge of events, hope he has an alibi for 7 august 1985?
Title: Re: The murder weapon was too long for Sheila
Post by: John on April 08, 2012, 12:17:40 AM
8-)(--)     I edited it as I usually pick up things like that.   Not to worry, says much about Tesko though!


He's a proper Charlie.    @)(++(*

Unlike 90% of the Bamber forum's members I am literate, John. But Tesko is a proper Charlie.  8@??)(


Sorry Adam, meant Tesko.   8((()*/

Maybe we should rename him Pesko??
Title: Re: The murder weapon was too long for Sheila
Post by: puglove on April 08, 2012, 12:20:18 AM
Digging up innocent kids after 26 years is just woeful and so cruel.  How dare he suggest that.  8()(((@#
Title: Re: The murder weapon was too long for Sheila
Post by: John on April 08, 2012, 12:21:59 AM
Digging up innocent kids after 26 years is just woeful and so cruel.  How dare he suggest that.  8()(((@#

I don't think there is much chance of that Eve, there would be a public outcry of disgust at such a thing.
Title: Re: The murder weapon was too long for Sheila
Post by: puglove on April 08, 2012, 12:33:34 AM
Digging up innocent kids after 26 years is just woeful and so cruel.  How dare he suggest that.  8()(((@#

It's a disgusting, vile and ultimately disrespectful suggestion, and I notice that not one member over there has challenged him. That forum is a damned disgrace, it does nothing but harm to the memories of the deceased, the remaining family, and, ironically, Bamber himself.
Title: Re: The murder weapon was too long for Sheila
Post by: puglove on April 08, 2012, 12:40:17 AM
Just why do Tesko and Preece have carte blanche to accuse and abuse as they do, posting lies and insults 24 hours a day? Why are they allowed to defile memories, and stalk the remaining family who have done nothing wrong? Does Jeremy Bamber and his team sanction such filth?
Title: Re: The murder weapon was too long for Sheila
Post by: puglove on April 08, 2012, 12:49:40 AM
If poor Sheila was intent on killing herself, she would not have placed the gun to the side of her throat, as in the first shot. She would have shot herself under her chin, or through the roof of her mouth. And she would have done it in the boys' bedroom. If she hated June and Neville as much as the other forum would have everyone believe, the ultimate punishment for them would be to find her and the boys dead. She would not have wanted to take June and Neville with her. She would have wanted to leave them behind to suffer and grieve.
Title: Re: The murder weapon was too long for Sheila
Post by: puglove on April 08, 2012, 01:02:47 AM
Apparently, Sheila turned, in the space of a couple of hours, from being quiet, shaky and withdrawn into a precise, exact assassin, capable of standing over the sleeping boys and executing them in arcs of shots. No adrenalin then, no tears of regret on her face? No sorrow for the little boys that she loved and wanted so much? They suddenly meant nothing to her? She was depressed, not deranged. She would have protected the children, if she could.
Title: Re: The murder weapon was too long for Sheila
Post by: puglove on April 08, 2012, 01:13:08 AM
It appals me to read the derogatory filth that is posted on Tesko's forum. And no one dares to confront him and question his motives. How dare he suggest that the twins' grave be disturbed to substantiate his obsession? How does that man sleep at night?
Title: Re: The murder weapon was too long for Sheila
Post by: puglove on April 08, 2012, 01:27:18 AM
Tesko is the worst kind of obsessive troll, and jackiepreece is his familiar. Within the next few weeks Bamber will be condemned forever, thank goodness, and peace will be restored. Peace for Sheila and the boys, Neville and June, and the remaining family. And Tesko and preece will have to find another lost cause to pursue. Ian Huntley? Karen Matthews? Ian Brady?
Title: Re: The murder weapon was too long for Sheila
Post by: Matthew Wyse on April 08, 2012, 01:42:12 AM
It appals me to read the derogatory filth that is posted on Tesko's forum. And no one dares to confront him and question his motives. How dare he suggest that the twins' grave be disturbed to substantiate his obsession? How does that man sleep at night?

Evening Adam.   Does he sleep at night because he seems to be always wittering on about some old rehashed theory or something. As far as I can see they are all just treading water waiting for the ccrc to dump the latest bad news on their doorstep.