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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: Opposing Pat on October 18, 2013, 08:47:23 PM
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Now that the fund objectives are being funded by the UK exchequer, i.e. -
Fund Objectives
The full objects of the Fund are:
To secure the safe return to her family of Madeleine McCann who was abducted in Praia da Luz, Portugal on Thursday 3rd May 2007;
To procure that Madeleine's abduction is thoroughly investigated and that her abductors, as well as those who played or play any part in assisting them, are identified and brought to justice;
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To provide support, including financial assistance, to Madeleine's family.
If the above objects are fulfilled then the objects of the Foundation shall be to pursue such purposes in similar cases arising in the United Kingdom, Portugal or elsewhere.
No fund cash required for the first 2 objectives now that SY are carrying out the investigation and not private investigators.
Does Madeleine's parents require financial assistance ?
The only justification at this juncture in Madeleine's case could only be to further raise awareness of Madeleine's plight !
Surely there can only be a handful of people in the world who are unaware of this case so why not disband the fund and redirect the remaining monies to other missing cases charities / funds !
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The full objects of the Fund are:
"To secure the safe return to her family of Madeleine McCann who was abducted in Praia da Luz, Portugal on Thursday 3rd May 2007;
To procure that Madeleine's abduction is thoroughly investigated and that her abductors, as well as those who played or play any part in assisting them, are identified and brought to justice;"
I guess if the Met don't come to a final conclusion or closure for Madeleines family...the search will continue.
Should the Met resolve this case then iirc any monies left in the Fund will help other missing children. At a guess I'd say it might be handed to MissingPeople which is a Charity supported by the McCanns.
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are you playing a little game where you are patb... and opposing pat... a sort of schizophrenic blogger
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8-)(--)It can't be Pat Brown "Profiler" on here surely? No one takes her seriously.
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8-)(--)It can't be Pat Brown "Profiler" on here surely? No one takes her seriously.
I actually think it may be ,or someone impersonating her
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?{)(**I thought she had been relegated to the forest after being dumped by US TV talking head shows?
Maybe she has room for a few others.
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I am neither patb nor Pat Brown, what did your post have to do with the OP ?
i'll tell you another time
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i'll tell you another time
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I'll look forward to reading your views davel !
Welcome to the forum Pat..what part of the US are you from
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Welcome to the forum Pat..what part of the US are you from
Brentwood..
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I would be quite surprised if SY can not bring this case to a conclusion Ben given the resources they have to hand !
I would equally be quite surprised if any future investigation by non state sponsored law agencies could uncover anything that SY failed to find.
This current investigation is very much the last throw of the dice in my opinion.
Idont think the McCanns will ever give up hope..you think logically.
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I would be quite surprised if SY can not bring this case to a conclusion Ben given the resources they have to hand !
I would equally be quite surprised if any future investigation by non state sponsored law agencies could uncover anything that SY failed to find.
This current investigation is very much the last throw of the dice in my opinion.
You could be correct- I think the first 48hrs- the most important were basically - not well investigated to put it politely.
I doubt that without concrete evidence either way the McCanns will not give up -I wouldn't either in their shoes.
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Idont think the McCanns will ever give up hope..you think logically.
No parent would Davel - Kerry Needham has not given up hope after over 20 years.
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Idont think the McCanns will ever give up hope..you think logically.
I couldn't quite get my head around the fact that the parents missed her "on special occasions, when the whole family should be there" when IMO they would miss her every waking moment of every single day. She wasn't some dodgy fat uncle who would visit twice a year.
I suppose, as Kate stressed on Crime Watch, they did nothing wrong.
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I couldn't quite get my head around the fact that the parents missed her "on special occasions, when the whole family should be there" when IMO they would miss her every waking moment of every single day. She wasn't some dodgy fat uncle who would visit twice a year.
I suppose, as Kate stressed on Crime Watch, they did nothing wrong.
how would you know when they missed madeleine ? of course they miss her every day..what kind of sad sap are you shona! 8-)(--)
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I couldn't quite get my head around the fact that the parents missed her "on special occasions, when the whole family should be there" when IMO they would miss her every waking moment of every single day. She wasn't some dodgy fat uncle who would visit twice a year.
I suppose, as Kate stressed on Crime Watch, they did nothing wrong.
I know what you mean shona ... sometimes they say things that leave me shaking my head
That silly woman on Crimewatch didn't help either ... talking about a 'Madeleine shaped hole' in their lives !
These people are not like anyone I know in real life
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how would you know when they missed madeleine ? of course they miss her every day..what kind of sad sap are you shona! 8-)(--)
I'm wondering that too.
They were saying how big family occasions were particularly painful for them - which any normal person would have no problem in understanding.
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how would you know when they missed madeleine ? of course they miss her every day..what kind of sad sap are you shona! 8-)(--)
But that's what they said. They miss their daughter when it's a big do. How bloody inconvenient of her.
I might be a sad sap, but if, God forbid if I'd lost a child, I wouldn't even be able to breathe or function. My life would be over. I wouldn't piss and moan that Christmas was a bit of a bummer. My tennis skills would probably be a bit bolloxed, too.
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I know what you mean shona ... sometimes they say things that leave me shaking my head
That silly woman on Crimewatch didn't help either ... talking about a 'Madeleine shaped hole' in their lives !
These people are not like anyone I know in real life
you McCann bashers are not like anyone I know in the real world ..sometimes I question myself as to why I am posting amongst such inhumane people...
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you McCann bashers are not like anyone I know in the real world ..sometimes I question myself as to why I am posting amongst such inhumane people...
I would hate to offend your sensibilities. But no one knows what happened to that little girl. Sadly, if she'd have been more important than a smug couple showing off and talking crap, there would be no story, she would be here. And we could all go home.
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you McCann bashers are not like anyone I know in the real world ..sometimes I question myself as to why I am posting amongst such inhumane people...
It's just that the language they use is so alien to me
I remember Holly Wells father speaking about his precious girl, and his raw pain, and the normal language he used to express it , was unbearable to witness
The McCanns talking about how they miss their little girl at party times did not affect me so profoundly
If that makes me 'inhumane' ... so be it
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I would hate to offend your sensibilities. But no one knows what happened to that little girl. Sadly, if she'd have been more important than a smug couple showing off and talking crap, there would be no story, she would be here. And we could all go home.
Well SY seem quite sure that she was abducted - and as unlike us they have ALL the files, professionally interpreted, the ability to interview anyone they want to, all the necessary computer equipment and the combined expertise of 38 experienced detectives working full time, then if I have to choose between their conclusions and part time armchair detectives with only some of the facts and nothing else to go on - then IMO it's no contest.
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I would hate to offend your sensibilities. But no one knows what happened to that little girl. Sadly, if she'd have been more important than a smug couple showing off and talking crap, there would be no story, she would be here. And we could all go home.
dunno about you but I am home chick 8(0(*
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But that's what they said. They miss their daughter when it's a big do. How bloody inconvenient of her.
I might be a sad sap, but if, God forbid if I'd lost a child, I wouldn't even be able to breathe or function. My life would be over. I wouldn't piss and moan that Christmas was a bit of a bummer. My tennis skills would probably be a bit bolloxed, too.
stop misquoting them shona it doesnt become you ..they did say especially when its Christmas or madeleine's birthday etc ..that doesnt mean they don't miss their daughter every day ..and I hope to god you don't find yourself in the same situation as the mccanns ..
I trust the NSY when they say "The McCanns & their group of friends are not suspects".
on that note i'll bid you a goodnight 8((()*/
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Ostensibly, the fund continues to provide financial resources for a search for Madeleine who went missing (the abduction theory was proposed by her parents and there is no evidence for it.)
However, in practice, if you take a closer look at some of the investigation teams and detectives employed by the McCann team, you will see that not a lot was happening.
And it is worth bearing in mind that the police investigation in Portugal did not find any evidence of an abduction but did find evidence that Madeleine died in the apartment. They considered the abduction theory to be a fake and they were suspicious about the behaviour of the McCanns and their friends in the days after Madeleine went missing and suspicious about the things that were said and the inconsistencies of the stories. That information is all in the files which can be seen on the internet.
There are those who claim that the fund is being used to employ lawyers to sue critics of the abduction theory and spin doctors to enhance the public image of the McCanns and media experts to keep alive the 'hunt' for Madeleine and the various alleged sightings around the world.
And while the McCann's continue to urge everyone to keep looking and never give up, and keep donating to the fund, it would have helped their cause - the cause to find their missing daughter - enormously if they themselves had started looking when she went missing, rather than expecting everyone else to do if for them. And indeed that still seems to be the case. Kate has admitted that she is not excited by any of the sightings. They both seem to have a huge emotional attachment to 'The Fund' and 'everyone's ' obligation to keep it going but a strange lack of personal responsibility in terms of the disappearance of their daughter - leaving their children unattended when they had suspicions that someone was watching her/leaving her to cry in distress for over an hour/not searching for their daughter on the night that they claimed she was abducted/not even wanting to go to the police station a few days after a possible sighting (Kate was 'irritated' at the suggestion...........???)
Meanwhile, the media circus continues.
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In short, I speculate that the Portugese police who initially were probably completely flummoxed by the hysteria (and you cannot blame them - given the circumstances) later became even more flummoxed by the attitude, behaviour and words of the McCanns and their friends which I imagine they felt were inconsistent with parents who were desperate to find a child who had inexplicably gone missing.
It must have been pretty strange for them when Kate got annoyed when they asked her to go to the police station when they had a CCTV siting of a child at a petrol station nearby.....I mean, she had got hysterical about her child being abducted....later on criticized the handling of the alleged abduction by the police, but then couldn't even summon up any enthusiasm to a possible siting of her daughter.....
Strange state of affairs they must have thought. And then the UK Press go ballistic - and who was it that was so concerned that the UK press became involved and 'on side' so early on........
It's amazing that Max Clifford didn't pop up on 5th May in the Algarve....
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It's amazing that Max Clifford didn't pop up on 5th May in the Algarve....
He was too smart to be sucked into it
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I couldn't quite get my head around the fact that the parents missed her "on special occasions, when the whole family should be there" when IMO they would miss her every waking moment of every single day. She wasn't some dodgy fat uncle who would visit twice a year.
I suppose, as Kate stressed on Crime Watch, they did nothing wrong.
Gerry must have seen the criticism because he corrected himself in the German Crimewatch. He also said about Maddie "We loved her". Speaking in the past tense is a giveaway.
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Gerry must have seen the criticism because he corrected himself in the German Crimewatch. He also said about Maddie "We loved her". Speaking in the past tense is a giveaway.
bizarre too. Even if they know she's dead, love doesn't tend to stop when life does for those of us who are left behind.