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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: John on January 06, 2014, 03:27:29 PM

Title: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: John on January 06, 2014, 03:27:29 PM
I have just had this little snippet passed to me...

Message from Gerry and Kate McCann highlighting 'the damage the press have done in the search for Madeleine' Official Find Madeleine Campaign - Facebook

Text version of above:

Sunday, 5 January 2014, at 18:37

I would like to remind those new to our page that Gerry and Kate will only comment on the investigation to find Madeleine when and if any updates FROM THE POLICE warrant a statement.

Please allow the police to do their jobs and not speculate or fuel rumours. We will not answer questions related to unfounded and speculative press articles and we ask that you not post them on our page.

Thank you for understanding.

~FM Webmaster (on behalf of Gerry and Kate)


(http://www.mccannfiles.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/fmof050114b.jpg)

https://www.facebook.com/Official.Find.Madeleine.Campaign/posts/10152104503869931?comment_id=28775913&offset=0&total_comments=204


Text version of above:

Sunday, 5 January 2014, at 21:45

To those offended by my post... I posted this message originally on October 30th. This message is from Gerry and Kate. Gerry and Kate will not comment on press articles. Please keep in mind many things you read in the press are not based on facts. If I have offended anyone with the tone, I apologise. I hope you can understand the amount of damage the press have done in the search for Madeleine (and how frustrating that is to all of us working so hard to get her home). Thank you to all who continue to stand by us and who keep Madeleine in their hearts. ~FM Webmaster

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id232.html
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Estuarine on January 06, 2014, 03:48:57 PM
What an interesting proposition. I wonder which press that is?
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Victoria on January 06, 2014, 04:07:44 PM
What an interesting proposition. I wonder which press that is?

You do know that the McCanns, and indeed their friends, have received compensation from British newspapers, don't you?
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: jassi on January 06, 2014, 04:16:42 PM
I'm sure there will be others who have offended them and published unhelpful articles.
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Estuarine on January 06, 2014, 04:31:51 PM
You do know that the McCanns, and indeed their friends, have received compensation from British newspapers, don't you?
Oh yes ! as did Mr Murat.
New to this site but been round the block a few times
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Sherlock Holmes on January 06, 2014, 04:36:18 PM
Astonishing.

What on earth are their lawyers thinking advising them to write this kind of thing - and right before the trial resumes as well.

Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Redblossom on January 06, 2014, 04:37:09 PM
So which press articles are they complaining about? All the ones since SY began their review?
Must admit they have been a shower of...but where are they getting their info or are they making it all up.....
And how are they harming the search?
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: slartibartfast on January 06, 2014, 04:38:23 PM
Astonishing.

What on earth are their lawyers thinking advising them to write this kind of thing - and right before the trial resumes as well.

Is suppose the papers have more money. Next target?
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Estuarine on January 06, 2014, 06:07:00 PM
Which search would that be I wonder? The one the Portuguese police stopped when the case was archived which the Judge may believe was the only "official" search, or the search being carried out by McCann PI's?
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: jassi on January 06, 2014, 06:08:22 PM
Which search would that be I wonder? The one the Portuguese police stopped when the case was archived which the Judge may believe was the only "official" search, or the search being carried out by McCann PI's?

Perhaps the volunteer 'looking' that the public have been exhorted to do .
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Angelo222 on January 07, 2014, 12:12:03 AM
I have just had this little snippet passed to me...

Message from Gerry and Kate McCann highlighting 'the damage the press have done in the search for Madeleine' Official Find Madeleine Campaign - Facebook

Text version of above:

Sunday, 5 January 2014, at 18:37

I would like to remind those new to our page that Gerry and Kate will only comment on the investigation to find Madeleine when and if any updates FROM THE POLICE warrant a statement.

Please allow the police to do their jobs and not speculate or fuel rumours. We will not answer questions related to unfounded and speculative press articles and we ask that you not post them on our page.

Thank you for understanding.

~FM Webmaster (on behalf of Gerry and Kate)


(http://www.mccannfiles.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/fmof050114b.jpg)

https://facebook.com/Official.Find.Madeleine.Campaign?id=113819004930&refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mccannfiles.com%2Fid232.html&_rdr


Text version of above:

Sunday, 5 January 2014, at 21:45

To those offended by my post... I posted this message originally on October 30th. This message is from Gerry and Kate. Gerry and Kate will not comment on press articles. Please keep in mind many things you read in the press are not based on facts. If I have offended anyone with the tone, I apologise. I hope you can understand the amount of damage the press have done in the search for Madeleine (and how frustrating that is to all of us working so hard to get her home). Thank you to all who continue to stand by us and who keep Madeleine in their hearts. ~FM Webmaster

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id232.html

Has the comment been removed already?   8-)(--).  @)(++(*
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Redblossom on January 07, 2014, 03:09:07 PM
Its still there Aangelo.  Im still confused as to what stories they are complaining about now rather an years ago and  how these hamper the "search"
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Estuarine on January 07, 2014, 03:13:33 PM
Its still there Aangelo.  Im still confused as to what stories they are complaining about now rather an years ago and  how these hamper the "search"

Maybe just an exercise in raising dust? Of course a more reactionary (provocative?) question would be is there a search?
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: jassi on January 07, 2014, 03:18:11 PM
Maybe just an exercise in raising dust? Of course a more reactionary (provocative?) question would be is there a search?

The only people conducting a physical search are those members of the public who spend their holidays scrutinizing other members of the public. Zero result to date.
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Redblossom on January 07, 2014, 03:21:32 PM
Maybe just an exercise in raising dust? Of course a more reactionary (provocative?) question would be is there a search?

I dont think that Facebook entry was made for any other reason than a reply to someone asking questions about the press stories, re burglars e.g. I didnt see the posts in question but its a fact that FB page/webmaster will not discuss anything, just gives orders. I dont think its anythng to do with the trial.


 @)(++(*


Did you see their "rules page" ?

https://www.facebook.com/Official.Find.Madeleine.Campaign/app_190322544333196

As for "the search" wrll thats a matter of opinion...

 8)-)))




Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Wonderfulspam on January 07, 2014, 03:23:00 PM
Its still there Aangelo.  Im still confused as to what stories they are complaining about now rather an years ago and  how these hamper the "search"

I'm still confused as to what they mean by 'search' exactly. Who is searching where & when & by what means?
Are their facebook supporters searching when they are posting hopefull messages of support?
Was Maddie likely to be found playing centre half at Goodison Park at the weekend?
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Redblossom on January 07, 2014, 03:29:36 PM
I'm still confused as to what they mean by 'search' exactly. Who is searching where & when & by what means?
Are their facebook supporters searching when they are posting hopefull messages of support?
Was Maddie likely to be found playing centre half at Goodison Park at the weekend?

I have no idea what they mean specifically but its on record from the first day after or so they and their family and friends the papers and others have complained non stop..much of it total lies ......you see everything was someone elses fault
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Jean-Pierre on January 07, 2014, 03:30:14 PM
If, as Sherlock Holmes has suggested, that the webmaster of the official Find Madeleine site has claimed that it was the UK media that hampered the search for Madeleine then that was a spectacular own goal and would lend credence to any last minute submissions presented on behalf of the defendant !

SH has been strangely silent on thsi subject since he made his claim
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Jean-Pierre on January 07, 2014, 03:30:59 PM
Let's hope the McCann legal team have something very clever in store this week, because the facebook webmaster just claimed that it's the UK press who have hampered the search.

Hi Sherlock.  Do you have a reference for this please? 
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Redblossom on January 07, 2014, 03:31:51 PM
SH has been strangely silent on thsi subject since he made his claim

It as an opinion....and SH is in the USA....probably sleeping until shortly!!! Not at the beck and call instantly for posters....

Do read the thread called " now its the press that hampered the search"
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Jean-Pierre on January 07, 2014, 03:37:13 PM
I think this is in response to some "spanning" of the facebook account by a group of Amaral supporters.  Rather sad that some get their jollies by spamming the facebook page for a missing little girl. 

But each to their own.
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Luz on January 07, 2014, 03:38:37 PM
Absolutely disgusting considering that they were the ones to call the Media when their daughter was a few hours disappeared.

So, we have to assume that the Wider Agenda backfired.

Live with it, McCanns.
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Jean-Pierre on January 07, 2014, 03:41:08 PM
If, as Sherlock Holmes has suggested, that the webmaster of the official Find Madeleine site has claimed that it was the UK media that hampered the search for Madeleine then that was a spectacular own goal and would lend credence to any last minute submissions presented on behalf of the defendant !
Do you mean this?

Sunday, 5 January 2014, at 21:45

To those offended by my post... I posted this message originally on October 30th. This message is from Gerry and Kate. Gerry and Kate will not comment on press articles. Please keep in mind many things you read in the press are not based on facts. If I have offended anyone with the tone, I apologise. I hope you can understand the amount of damage the press have done in the search for Madeleine (and how frustrating that is to all of us working so hard to get her home). Thank you to all who continue to stand by us and who keep Madeleine in their hearts. ~FM Webmaster
____________________________

You are joking, I assume. 

Journalists making things up?  Whatever next.

Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Wonderfulspam on January 07, 2014, 03:45:23 PM
'I hope you can understand the amount of damage the press have done in the search for Madeleine'

Yes if the rotten journalists had just printed those efits 5 years ago like Kate & Gerry begged them to do then Maddie would have been home by now.
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Jean-Pierre on January 07, 2014, 03:45:25 PM
Absolutely disgusting considering that they were the ones to call the Media when their daughter was a few hours disappeared.

So, we have to assume that the Wider Agenda backfired.

Live with it, McCanns.

What do you find "disgusting" Luz?  I am confused. 
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Lyall on January 07, 2014, 03:52:48 PM
I'm still confused as to what they mean by 'search' exactly. Who is searching where & when & by what means?
Are their facebook supporters searching when they are posting hopefull messages of support?
Was Maddie likely to be found playing centre half at Goodison Park at the weekend?

I think by search they really mean possibility Madeleine could be alive - GM has stated many times he doesn't think anyone should be allowed to say the possibility no longer exists.

In 2007 the papers of course suggested she wasn't, but then the AG report said nothing definitively either way.

So anything printed after that ought to reflect the AG's conclusions - that's their case.

Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Mr Gray on January 07, 2014, 03:53:40 PM
What do you find "disgusting" Luz?  I am confused.

everything to do with the McCanns? Aren't the Portuguese people lovely...please remember this when you book your summer holiday in PDL...it seems people already have
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Eleanor on January 07, 2014, 04:08:47 PM
'I hope you can understand the amount of damage the press have done in the search for Madeleine'

Yes if the rotten journalists had just printed those efits 5 years ago like Kate & Gerry begged them to do then Maddie would have been home by now.

Don't be ridiculous.  No one knows how important these E Fits might be.  Especially as they are supposedly of the same  man.
Your grasp of the situation is tenuous, to say the least.
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Jean-Pierre on January 07, 2014, 04:09:19 PM
Ah - light dawns.  Is this the phrase you are all getting your knickers in a twist over?

I hope you can understand the amount of damage the press have done in the search for Madeleine (and how frustrating that is to all of us working so hard to get her home).

Good heavens - what sensitive little flowers you imagine the press to be.

Maybe it is worth harking back to the wall to wall coverage in 2007 / 2008.  When the British and Portuguese press indulged in an absolute feeding frenzy over the McCann case.  If they could not find a fact, then a rumour would do.  If they coudnt find a rumour, the invent one. 

And my heart belleds for them that some had to pay a small percentage of the profits they made to the fund. 

As for it being the cause of the delay in the libel trial - not a chance.  I think the reason for that is elsewhere. 
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Wonderfulspam on January 07, 2014, 04:14:48 PM
Don't be ridiculous.  No one knows how important these E Fits might be.  Especially as they are supposedly of the same  man.
Your grasp of the situation is tenuous, to say the least.

Yes 5 years ago those efits might possibly have helped find the 'abductor(s) & rescued Maddie from the void.
They could be of little use now.
Tragic isn't it.
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: jassi on January 07, 2014, 04:21:42 PM
Don't be ridiculous. No one knows how important these E Fits might be.  Especially as they are supposedly of the same  man.
Your grasp of the situation is tenuous, to say the least.

Mr Redwood seemed quite keen on them, not so long back, so they must have been considered important, else they would never have been featured on Crimewatch.
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Eleanor on January 07, 2014, 04:35:03 PM
Mr Redwood seemed quite keen on them, not so long back, so they must have been considered important, else they would never have been featured on Crimewatch.

Oh really.  According to some, all of the E Fits are rubbish.  What is so special about these?  I heard gales of laughter when they first appeared.
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Admin on January 07, 2014, 04:35:09 PM
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Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Lyall on January 07, 2014, 04:36:59 PM
Mr Redwood seemed quite keen on them, not so long back, so they must have been considered important, else they would never have been featured on Crimewatch.

Ah they might have, jassi... if they had nothing else to show the public >@@(*&)
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: jassi on January 07, 2014, 04:39:39 PM
Oh really.  According to some, all of the E Fits are rubbish.  What is so special about these?  I heard gales of laughter when they first appeared.

I'm not saying there's anything special about them, but if the 'top cop' features them as important, then who are we  to say otherwise?
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Lyall on January 07, 2014, 04:40:47 PM
Oh really.  According to some, all of the E Fits are rubbish.  What is so special about these?  I heard gales of laughter when they first appeared.

They might well be special because it's possible some people didn't want the public to ever see them.
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Redblossom on January 07, 2014, 04:57:33 PM
I think this is in response to some "spanning" of the facebook account by a group of Amaral supporters.  Rather sad that some get their jollies by spamming the facebook page for a missing little girl. 

But each to their own.

Err hang on. For starters did you see what these messages were? How do you just assume they were from "Amaral supporters" ? How do you know they were spamming and also how do you know it wasnt just a couple questions from anyone about what the daily mail, star, etc have printed? Why so quick to jump with so many assumptions and accusations?
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Jean-Pierre on January 07, 2014, 06:15:21 PM
Err hang on. For starters did you see what these messages were? How do you just assume they were from "Amaral supporters" ? How do you know they were spamming and also how do you know it wasnt just a couple questions from anyone about what the daily mail, star, etc have printed? Why so quick to jump with so many assumptions and accusations?

Because I could read posts on a couple of other forums (of an anti persuasion), firstly from posters crowing about how clever they were to get some posts listed on the facebook site, and subsequently from posters complaining about how their posts had been removed from the site. 

But if you want to live in fantasy land, where nobody would think of trolling a missing little girls factebook site, then be my guest. 
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Redblossom on January 07, 2014, 06:22:48 PM
Because I could read posts on a couple of other forums (of an anti persuasion), firstly from posters crowing about how clever they were to get some posts listed on the facebook site, and subsequently from posters complaining about how their posts had been removed from the site. 

But if you want to live in fantasy land, where nobody would think of trolling a missing little girls factebook site, then be my guest.
So prove it
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Kazcutt on January 07, 2014, 06:26:54 PM
The press were disgusting back in 2007 I can remember buying a few papers a day and in one occasion the headline I. One was Madeleine dead then on the other Madeleine alive
No one can defend the press they made millions out of Madeleine just like the express with Diana
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Jean-Pierre on January 07, 2014, 06:36:44 PM
So prove it

My dear Red.  I merely posted in response to your (and others) allegation with one of the reasons for the webmasters response.  Your rather juvenile challenge of "prove it" is not worthy of your undoubted intelligence.  As is your assertion that the webmeasters response may be used by Amaral's defence team in the libel trial.


 
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Wonderfulspam on January 07, 2014, 06:38:17 PM
My dear Red.  I merely posted in response to your (and others) allegation with one of the reasons for the webmasters response.  Your rather juvenile challenge of "prove it" is not worthy of your undoubted intelligence.  As is your assertion that the webmeasters response may be used by Amaral's defence team in the libel trial.

Pompous piffle.
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Redblossom on January 07, 2014, 06:38:32 PM
The press were disgusting back in 2007 I can remember buying a few papers a day and in one occasion the headline I. One was Madeleine dead then on the other Madeleine alive
No one can defend the press they made millions out of Madeleine just like the express with Diana

yep, and the mccanns got compensated for it....just short of a million quid they got.....The issue at hand is different....theyare complaining about the press now...just wondering which bits..
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Mr Gray on January 07, 2014, 06:38:51 PM
My dear Red.  I merely posted in response to your (and others) allegation with one of the reasons for the webmasters response.  Your rather juvenile challenge of "prove it" is not worthy of your undoubted intelligence.  As is your assertion that the webmeasters response may be used by Amaral's defence team in the libel trial.

 They probably will use it as they have very little else
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: Redblossom on January 07, 2014, 06:43:05 PM
My dear Red.  I merely posted in response to your (and others) allegation with one of the reasons for the webmasters response.  Your rather juvenile challenge of "prove it" is not worthy of your undoubted intelligence.  As is your assertion that the webmeasters response may be used by Amaral's defence team in the libel trial.

No you merely posted saying it was a bunch of amaral supporters...no back up, no facts, thats all

Ps JP I never said anywhere the webmasters posts would be used by amarals defence team......so why say it was my assertion? Keep up old chum

Oh and pps prove it means back up....if you think asking for  back up for statements is juvenile, well, what can i say...crummy posts from decrepit vile cesspit sites dont count here.....
Title: Re: Now its the Press who hampered the search!
Post by: sadie on January 07, 2014, 11:13:12 PM
No you merely posted saying it was a bunch of amaral supporters...no back up, no facts, thats all

Ps JP I never said anywhere the webmasters posts would be used by amarals defence team......so why say it was my assertion? Keep up old chum

Oh and pps prove it means back up....if you think asking for  back up for statements is juvenile, well, what can i say...crummy posts from decrepit vile cesspit sites dont count here.....
Dont you support Amaral., then?