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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: Silkywhiskers on February 23, 2014, 11:33:16 PM
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Oh yes about that wind blowing the curtains and the door slamming....
It only happened once, in the entire holiday, that very second that Loving Kate was standing there was the only time the wind ever whooshed through that window, ever.
Miraculous.
Was it even windy that night? Did experts study HOW this random draught was created out of nowhere?
We all know what a windy room is like - yes the door slams. It slams straight away. It doesn't sit still until someone conveniently comes along to hear it.
The "wind" should have blown before Kate got there, the door should already have been slammed shut, which in turn should've started the twins, woken them, made them cry etc.
No we just have one random draught blowing through to warn Kate of the emergency. Very convenient wind, that.
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The "wind" should have blown before Kate got there, the door should already have been slammed shut, which in turn should've started the twins, woken them, made them cry etc.
No we just have one random draught blowing through to warn Kate of the emergency. Very convenient wind, that.
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There's no wind in the first statement (it was windy though, but not as much as the night before), everything was simply open.
The wind got a part in the second statement (the timeline) in order to provide some kind of dramatisation I suppose. Ref. the fictionstruction Cutting Edge.
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There's no wind in the first statement (it was windy though, but not as much as the night before), everything was simply open.
The wind got a part in the second statement (the timeline) in order to provide some kind of dramatisation I suppose. Ref. the fictionstruction Cutting Edge.
I think the fact that Kate McCann changed her mind about the curtains ... being drawn open in the first statement, and being closed, but 'whoosing' up, in her later claims ... may have been for much more significant reasons than providing drama
It's all about Matthew Oldfield's 9.30pm check
The curtains, he attested, were closed at the time
In order to 'accomodate' Jane Tanner's abducter at 9.15pm, therefore, it would be necessary to claim that the curtains were 'left' closed after the abductor struck ... and, subsequently, were still closed when Kate made her fateful check at 10pm
Kate McCann said the curtains, window, and shutters, were all open in her first statement
... she took it back
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I think the fact that Kate McCann changed her mind about the curtains ... being drawn open in the first statement, and being closed, but 'whoosing' up, in her later claims ... may have been for much more significant reasons than providing drama
It's all about Matthew Oldfield's 9.30pm check
The curtains, he attested, were closed at the time
In order to 'accomodate' Jane Tanner's abducter at 9.15pm, therefore, it would be necessary to claim that the curtains were 'left' closed after the abductor struck ... and, subsequently, were still closed when Kate made her fateful check at 10pm
Kate McCann said the curtains, window, and shutters, were all open in her first statement
... she took it back
More lies changing stories.
These people are unbelievable. Literally.
How on earth do folks still believe they are innocent uninvolved truthful and caring parents?
Bizarre.
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I think the fact that Kate McCann changed her mind about the curtains ... being drawn open in the first statement, and being closed, but 'whoosing' up, in her later claims ... may have been for much more significant reasons than providing drama
It's all about Matthew Oldfield's 9.30pm check
The curtains, he attested, were closed at the time
In order to 'accomodate' Jane Tanner's abducter at 9.15pm, therefore, it would be necessary to claim that the curtains were 'left' closed after the abductor struck ... and, subsequently, were still closed when Kate made her fateful check at 10pm
Kate McCann said the curtains, window, and shutters, were all open in her first statement
... she took it back
IMO indications tha she calculatingly lied are rubbish.. you are just trying to find 'the reasons' to blame her.
She's just lost a child and you are expecting her to remember how many hooks in the curtain were moved south..
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More lies changing stories.
These people are unbelievable. Literally.
How on earth do folks still believe they are innocent uninvolved truthful and caring parents?
Bizarre.
There may be rational explanations for the anomolies thrown up in this case, but what I find bizarre is that any questioning of those anomalies is vehemently objected too
... as though the McCann version ( or changing versions ) of events should simply be accepted and any doubt expressed is an affront
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I think the fact that Kate McCann changed her mind about the curtains ... being drawn open in the first statement, and being closed, but 'whoosing' up, in her later claims ... may have been for much more significant reasons than providing drama
It's all about Matthew Oldfield's 9.30pm check
The curtains, he attested, were closed at the time
In order to 'accomodate' Jane Tanner's abducter at 9.15pm, therefore, it would be necessary to claim that the curtains were 'left' closed after the abductor struck ... and, subsequently, were still closed when Kate made her fateful check at 10pm
Kate McCann said the curtains, window, and shutters, were all open in her first statement
... she took it back
I'm not sure, Icabodcrane, it would have been easier, when they concocted the third time-line, for Matthew to be uncertain about the state of the curtains.
The lack of forensic evidence that someone passed through the window made their dramatic "jemmy" description (the crucial ingredient in the story telling) collapse and they needed a second best : the whooshing curtains revealing a horrible dark opening on evil.
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I'm not sure, Icabodcrane, it would have been easier, when they concocted the third time-line, for Matthew to be uncertain about the state of the curtains.
The lack of forensic evidence that someone passed through the window made their dramatic "jemmy" description (the crucial ingredient in the story telling) collapse and they needed a second best : the whooshing curtains revealing a horrible dark opening on evil.
ah, but that would be making the assumption that Oldfield was involved in the 'concoction'
What if he was innocently speaking the truth about what occured that night, ? ... there might be a need, then, mightn't there, to 'incorporate' his recollections into the 'Jane saw the abductor making off with Madeleine at 9.15 ' story
So instead of sticking with the first statement, where the open curtains/ window/ shutters were the first thing Kate noticed ( before she even realised Madeleien was missing ) Kate changes her mind, and says she already knew Madeleine was not in her bed before she noticed the open window ... only brought to her attention when the ( closed ) curtains 'whooshed' up following a timely gust of wind
For it to have been possible for Jane Tanner to have 'seen' the abductor at 9.15pm ( as we have reletlessly been told by the McCanns she SHE DID ) then the room would have been exactly as he ( the abductor ) had left it at 9.15pm
That's how Matthew Oldfield would have found it at 9.30pm ... and how Kate McCann would have found it at 10pm
There would have been been no change in the situation in the room between those two checks ( presuming, as the McCanns insisted, that Madeleine had been abducted just after Gerry's 9.10pm check ... as witnessed by Jane Tanner )
And yet there was
Matthew Oldfied said the curtains were closed when he checked at 9.30pm ... and Kate said the curtains were open when she checked at 10pm ( an anomaly that could only be explained by any abductor having struck between 9.30pm and 10pm .... nixing Tannerman )
The anomaly was 'fixed' when the story changed
Oldfield did not change his story ... Kate changed hers