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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: Heriberto Janosch on February 28, 2014, 06:26:00 PM

Title: New European Laws come into effect re cross-border crimes.
Post by: Heriberto Janosch on February 28, 2014, 06:26:00 PM
Cross-border crime: make investigations easier, but protect suspects’ rights
Plenary Session Press release - Fundamental rights / Justice and home affairs − 27-02-2014 - 12:42
 

Judicial authorities asking their colleagues in another EU country to carry out investigations there, e.g. by searching houses or interviewing witnesses, should get a faster and more favourable response thanks to the new "European Investigation Order" rules approved by Parliament on Thursday. In a separate vote, MEPs also called for an overhaul of “European Arrest Warrant" rules which govern the extradition of suspects within the EU.

"This instrument will allow effective prosecution across borders of crimes such as terrorism, drug trafficking or corruption. It will also guarantee respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms", said Nuno Melo (EPP, PT), rapporteur on the European Investigation Order (EIO) directive, which was passed by 467 votes to 22, with 10 abstentions.

"The European Arrest Warrant (EAW) could be called the euro of the justice and home affairs world. It is a very good idea, but it was launched without the support and safeguards necessary to make it strong and sustainable. (...) The operation of the EAW needs to be improved", said Sarah Ludford (ALDE, UK), rapporteur on the EAW resolution, which was passed by 495 votes to 51, with 11 abstentions.

Stricter deadlines

The EIO aims to make it easier for judicial authorities to request investigative measures and thereby obtain evidence in another EU country. Under the new rules, member states would have up to 30 days to decide whether or not to accept an EIO request. If accepted, there would then be a 90-day deadline for conducting the requested investigative measure. Any delay would have to be reported to the EU country issuing the EIO.

Limited grounds for refusal

An EIO request could be refused only on specific grounds, e.g. if it could harm essential national security interests. It could also be refused if existing rules that restrict criminal liability to safeguard press freedom would make it impossible to execute it. Furthermore, MEPs inserted several provisions to protect suspects’ fundamental rights. For example, member states' authorities may refuse an EIO request if they believe it would be incompatible with their fundamental rights obligations.

To enter into force, the EIO directive still needs for be formally endorsed by the Council of Ministers. Once approved, member states will have three years to transpose it into their national laws. The UK will take part in the EIO arrangements, but Ireland and Denmark will not.

Overhauling the European Arrest Warrant

In a separate vote, Parliament called on the European Commission to table within a year legislative proposals to review the EAW rules. A resolution drafted by Ms Ludford sets out detailed recommendations for the reform. Despite its success in speeding up surrender procedures, MEPs say the system needs to be overhauled to better protect the procedural rights of suspected and accused persons, improve detention conditions, and prevent alleged overuse of EAWs by some member states. Between 2005 and 2009 54,689 EAWs were issued but only 11,630 were executed.

Procedure:  Co-decision, first reading agreement (Melo) / Initiative pursuant to TFEU Article 225 (Ludford)
REF. : 20140221IPR36647

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/news-room/content/20140221IPR36647/html/Cross-border-crime-make-investigations-easier-but-protect-suspects%E2%80%99-rights (http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/news-room/content/20140221IPR36647/html/Cross-border-crime-make-investigations-easier-but-protect-suspects%E2%80%99-rights)

More in my blog: http://espacioexterior.blogspot.com.es/2014/02/the-madeleine-mccann-abduction-need-for.html (http://espacioexterior.blogspot.com.es/2014/02/the-madeleine-mccann-abduction-need-for.html)
Title: Re: New European Laws come into effect re cross-border crimes.
Post by: Sherlock Holmes on February 28, 2014, 06:59:54 PM
Thank you very much for posting this information.
Title: Re: New European Laws come into effect re cross-border crimes.
Post by: AnneGuedes on February 28, 2014, 09:57:11 PM

More in my blog: http://espacioexterior.blogspot.com.es/2014/02/the-madeleine-mccann-abduction-need-for.html (http://espacioexterior.blogspot.com.es/2014/02/the-madeleine-mccann-abduction-need-for.html)
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Title: Re: New European Laws come into effect re cross-border crimes.
Post by: Sherlock Holmes on March 01, 2014, 12:04:24 AM
What's so funny about that, Anne?
Title: Re: New European Laws come into effect re cross-border crimes.
Post by: Redblossom on March 01, 2014, 12:22:36 AM
What's so funny about that, Anne?

Maybe this? /these?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzpniKAWvUI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uWUXFMZdWE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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Title: Re: New European Laws come into effect re cross-border crimes.
Post by: Sherlock Holmes on March 01, 2014, 12:31:36 AM
Maybe this? /these?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzpniKAWvUI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uWUXFMZdWE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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I find those spooky more than anything else, TBH!
Title: Re: New European Laws come into effect re cross-border crimes.
Post by: Lyall on March 01, 2014, 12:32:25 AM
<shivers>
Title: Re: New European Laws come into effect re cross-border crimes.
Post by: Redblossom on March 01, 2014, 12:35:37 AM
I find those spooky more than anything else, TBH!

Yes spooky guy spookily reenacting a hypothetical break in from a hypothetically left open window  lifting a pillow from below the window wtf moment anyway ....gone >>>>>>
Title: Re: New European Laws come into effect re cross-border crimes.
Post by: AnneGuedes on March 01, 2014, 12:43:26 AM
Maybe this? /these?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzpniKAWvUI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uWUXFMZdWE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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ROFL !
The things someone has the courage to do to become famous !
Title: Re: New European Laws come into effect re cross-border crimes.
Post by: VIXTE on March 01, 2014, 01:09:15 AM
So what! That is his profession.
This case should naturally be interesting to anyone in that profession.

Although, I don't agree with the theory that the window was the point of access..



Title: Re: New European Laws come into effect re cross-border crimes.
Post by: Sherlock Holmes on March 01, 2014, 01:42:54 AM
Yes spooky guy spookily reenacting a hypothetical break in from a hypothetically left open window  lifting a pillow from below the window wtf moment anyway ....gone >>>>>>

It was not a reenactment.
Title: Re: New European Laws come into effect re cross-border crimes.
Post by: Redblossom on March 01, 2014, 10:30:38 PM
It was not a reenactment.
Sorry I meant to reply to this earlier and forgot, before i go, what was the purpose of picking up a pillow through the window???
Title: Re: New European Laws come into effect re cross-border crimes.
Post by: Sherlock Holmes on March 01, 2014, 10:52:24 PM
Sorry I meant to reply to this earlier and forgot, before i go, what was the purpose of picking up a pillow through the window???

Don't think that was the main part of it.

It was an experiment to see if taking a child out of the window from outside was physically possible.
Title: Re: New European Laws come into effect re cross-border crimes.
Post by: pathfinder73 on March 01, 2014, 11:35:27 PM
Don't think that was the main part of it.

It was an experiment to see if taking a child out of the window from outside was physically possible.

Madeleine didn't use the bed next to the window so it is meaningless. Anyway even if it was that bed she would have been at the top end of the bed sleeping and not at the bottom where the window was open and pillow lifted out  @)(++(* There's no evidence of anyone going through the window so she didn't leave that way.
Title: Re: New European Laws come into effect re cross-border crimes.
Post by: Sherlock Holmes on March 01, 2014, 11:42:47 PM
Madeleine didn't use the bed next to the window so it is meaningless. Anyway even if it was that bed she would have been at the top end of the bed sleeping and not at the bottom where the window was open and pillow lifted out  @)(++(* There's no evidence of anyone going through the window so she didn't leave that way.


Yes, the bed position is the main problem with that theory.

Don't think it's a bad idea however to see if, in principle, the window shutters / window could have been opened from the outside.
Title: Re: New European Laws come into effect re cross-border crimes.
Post by: icabodcrane on March 01, 2014, 11:55:31 PM
It was not a reenactment.

Yes it was

Janosch became   'the abductor'  ...  complete with sinister expressions

All done in complete silence

Creepy beyond words 
Title: Re: New European Laws come into effect re cross-border crimes.
Post by: Sherlock Holmes on March 01, 2014, 11:57:48 PM
Yes it was

Janosch became   'the abductor'  ...  complete with sinister expressions

All done in complete silence

Creepy beyond words

A re-enactment is a recreation of something that we know happened.

This was an experiment to see if it was possible that something happened.

(And creepy beyond words).
Title: Re: New European Laws come into effect re cross-border crimes.
Post by: AnneGuedes on March 02, 2014, 12:01:47 AM

Yes, the bed position is the main problem with that theory.

Don't think it's a bad idea however to see if, in principle, the window shutters / window could have been opened from the outside.
No. The window was blocked.
Title: Re: New European Laws come into effect re cross-border crimes.
Post by: pathfinder73 on March 02, 2014, 12:02:53 AM

Yes, the bed position is the main problem with that theory.

Don't think it's a bad idea however to see if, in principle, the window shutters / window could have been opened from the outside.

Could the window be opened from the outside without leaving any trace of evidence? Not according to that expert in the Truth of the Lie documentary and no evidence was found - not even glove marks.
Title: Re: New European Laws come into effect re cross-border crimes.
Post by: AnneGuedes on March 02, 2014, 12:03:26 AM
Yes it was

Janosch became   'the abductor'  ...  complete with sinister expressions

All done in complete silence

Creepy beyond words
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Title: Re: New European Laws come into effect re cross-border crimes.
Post by: sadie on March 02, 2014, 12:50:25 AM
ROFL !
The things someone has the courage to do to become famous !
How rude !
Title: Re: New European Laws come into effect re cross-border crimes.
Post by: sadie on March 02, 2014, 12:57:39 AM

Yes, the bed position is the main problem with that theory.

Don't think it's a bad idea however to see if, in principle, the window shutters / window could have been opened from the outside.
Heris theory is quite possible Sherlock.  The bed doesn't cover the entire window opening, by any means. 

In his theory IIRC Heri thinks that Madeleine came over to the window, so she was standing and if she was reassured by someone she knew perhaps saying that Mummy and Daddy had asked him/her to fetch her, then Madeleine could have been lifted like that.

However, no fibres we are told ... or marks on the cill.  I think it less likely than the front door ... but it is a possibility.
Title: Re: New European Laws come into effect re cross-border crimes.
Post by: AnneGuedes on March 02, 2014, 01:01:00 AM
How rude !
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Title: Re: New European Laws come into effect re cross-border crimes.
Post by: sadie on March 02, 2014, 03:12:49 AM
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You think being rude to a professional investigator with sterling qualifications in criminal investigation, a man who is working hard to help solve this case, is OK do you Anne?

Says more about you than it does about Heri.

Oceans more, in fact, and decent people will be reading this. 
Title: Re: New European Laws come into effect re cross-border crimes.
Post by: icabodcrane on March 02, 2014, 03:26:44 AM
You think being rude to a professional investigator with sterling qualifications in criminal investigation, a man who is working hard to help solve this case, is OK do you Anne?

Says more about you than it does about Heri.

Oceans more, in fact, and decent people will be reading this.

Janosch took his  'theory'  to the British  tabloids     

What purpose did that serve  ? 

Professional investigator my Jim Royle
Title: Re: New European Laws come into effect re cross-border crimes.
Post by: sadie on March 02, 2014, 04:13:05 AM
Eat your hat Icabod.  Apologies would not come amiss.

Just cos he doesn't think what you think about the case, is NOT a reason to abuse Heri


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Heriberto Janosch González.
 
Master of Investigation in Psychology.
Psychologist and Educator,
Master of Investigation in Psychology.
Expert's Degree in Criminology.
Expert's Degree in Criminology. Madrid.



What are your special qualifications, Icabod ?
Title: Re: New European Laws come into effect re cross-border crimes.
Post by: icabodcrane on March 02, 2014, 04:29:21 AM
Eat your hat Icabod.  Apologies would not come amiss.

Just cos he doesn't think what you think about the case, is NOT a reason to abuse Heri


http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://espacioexterior.blogspot.com/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dheriberto%2Bjanosch%2Bgonz%25C3%25A1lez%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-gb:IE-SearchBox%26rlz%3D1I7RNQN_enGB457

Heriberto Janosch González.
 
Master of Investigation in Psychology.
Psychologist and Educator,
Master of Investigation in Psychology.
Expert's Degree in Criminology.
Expert's Degree in Criminology. Madrid.



What are your special qualifications, Icabod ?

I have no  'special qualifications'   

As  to apologies    ...  what for   ?  ...  for asking Janosch what purpose it served for him to speak to a British tabloid about his theory  ? 

 
Title: Re: New European Laws come into effect re cross-border crimes.
Post by: a.baker on March 02, 2014, 05:02:32 AM
I would imagine that if a stranger appeared at the bedroom window Madeleine would have screamed the place down in fright,not happily gone over and chatted with him/her. Unless of course the person was not a stranger. And anyway,in both sightings (if either one was Madeleine) the child appeared asleep so how would this tally with alleged abductor lifting her out of the window on the pretext of going to find her parents?
Title: Re: New European Laws come into effect re cross-border crimes.
Post by: Sherlock Holmes on March 02, 2014, 06:16:21 AM
I have no  'special qualifications'   

As  to apologies    ...  what for   ?  ...  for asking Janosch what purpose it served for him to speak to a British tabloid about his theory  ?


Are you this is correct, icabod?

I remember you asked Heriberto Janosch this question several times.

But I don't remember him clarifying the issue for you.