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Welcome to the UK Justice Forum => New members please introduce yourself here. => Topic started by: Andrea on September 29, 2014, 11:12:34 AM
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If that's you from blue, Caroline, welcome ?{)(** 8((()*/
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If that's you from blue, Caroline, welcome ?{)(** 8((()*/
Yeah, it's me 8)--)) and thank you! *&(+(+
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Nice to see you here.
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No I don't like games either H, I think Jeremy is guilty %£&)**# nothing to do with psychology experiments, &%&£(+ @)(++(*
Great to have you on board Caroline 8@??)( 8@??)( 8@??)(
I can just see the reaction on blue. On a serious note however Caroline, is there any particular reason you changed your views on Jeremy?
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Great to have you on board Caroline 8@??)( 8@??)( 8@??)(
I can just see the reaction on blue.
Thanks 8((()*/
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Great to have you on board Caroline 8@??)( 8@??)( 8@??)(
I can just see the reaction on blue. On a serious note however Caroline, is there any particular reason you changed your views on Jeremy?
Lots of reasons John and although I didn't admit it, there have always been a few things that bugged me. The phone call was always worrying. The whole thing just seems staged - the receiver off the hook for instance, it just looks as though it was done to show Neville used the phone.
When I asked him about the wallet, he didn't reply (he always replied within days) and he had to be prompted. The reply was really odd in that he said he knew I had asked a specific question, and that the answer was 'no' or 'I didn't' but he didn't remember the question. Holly just pointed out my degree and maybe that makes me analyse things too deeply but knowing that the question was 'specific' and knowing the 'answer' should have prompted his memory to retrieve the question. Also the answer he gave was non-committal and he seems to do that a lot, so that if caught out, he can change his answer fairly quickly.
The final clincher is the claim about Neville's phone call - he was willing to change the time of his call to police in order to make it fit (although again, he was non-committal in respect to his initial timings - like I said, he does that a lot!)
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Lots of reasons John and although I didn't admit it, there have always been a few things that bugged me. The phone call was always worrying. The whole thing just seems staged - the receiver off the hook for instance, it just looks as though it was done to show Neville used the phone.
When I asked him about the wallet, he didn't reply (he always replied within days) and he had to be prompted. The reply was really odd in that he said he knew I had asked a specific question, and that the answer was 'no' or 'I didn't' but he didn't remember the question. Holly just pointed out my degree and maybe that makes me analyse things too deeply but knowing that the question was 'specific' and knowing the 'answer' should have prompted his memory to retrieve the question. Also the answer he gave was non-committal and he seems to do that a lot, so that if caught out, he can change his answer fairly quickly.
The final clincher is the claim about Neville's phone call - he was willing to change the time of his call to police in order to make it fit (although again, he was non-committal in respect to his initial timings - like I said, he does that a lot!)
Absolutely agree with you, I found his evidence about the phone calls just too woolly. If Nevill had indeed phoned him in despair he would have taken off like a blue arsed fly...point is he didn't and couldn't have delayed longer if he had tried. The stopping to put on jumpers was a clue in itself, a five minute trip and he stopped half way???
Stan Jones saw the conspiracy from the moment he entered Jeremy's cottage in Goldhanger, from then on it was only a matter of watch and wait imo.
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Absolutely agree with you, I found his evidence about the phone calls just too woolly. If Nevill had indeed phoned him in despair he would have taken off like a blue arsed fly...point is he didn't and couldn't have delayed longer if he had tried. The stopping to put on jumpers was a clue in itself, a five minute trip and he stopped half way???
I think he needed the police to see him arrive or they may have thought he'd been there all along! He tried to avoid being a suspect and tried to cover all avenues but in doing so, it just made him more suspicious!
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No I don't like games either H, I think Jeremy is guilty %£&)**# nothing to do with psychology experiments, &%&£(+ @)(++(*
When you joined Blue you said you initially thought JB guilty. Then you spent some time researching the case and you found JB innocent. So much so that you spent some 2 years on Blue arguing your points quite forcibly I might add. Now another U turn and you're back to guilty. Do you think a time might come when you will switch back to innocent?
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,2931.msg103751.html#msg103751
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,2931.msg103772.html#msg103772
I have no intention whatsoever of exchanging posts with you and in any event I think I might struggle against your superior intellectual and analytical skills. And of course your succinct way with words v my "rambling" posts.
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Lots of reasons John and although I didn't admit it, there have always been a few things that bugged me. The phone call was always worrying. The whole thing just seems staged - the receiver off the hook for instance, it just looks as though it was done to show Neville used the phone.
When I asked him about the wallet, he didn't reply (he always replied within days) and he had to be prompted. The reply was really odd in that he said he knew I had asked a specific question, and that the answer was 'no' or 'I didn't' but he didn't remember the question. Holly just pointed out my degree and maybe that makes me analyse things too deeply but knowing that the question was 'specific' and knowing the 'answer' should have prompted his memory to retrieve the question. Also the answer he gave was non-committal and he seems to do that a lot, so that if caught out, he can change his answer fairly quickly.
The final clincher is the claim about Neville's phone call - he was willing to change the time of his call to police in order to make it fit (although again, he was non-committal in respect to his initial timings - like I said, he does that a lot!)
%£&)**#
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Step back gents 8()-000( ... I can hear the sound of claws being sharpened! 8(8-))
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*huff* *puff*
Just moving the furniture around to make room for Gladys' commode and Clappy's zimmer.
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When you joined Blue you said you initially thought JB guilty. Then you spent some time researching the case and you found JB innocent. So much so that you spent some 2 years on Blue arguing your points quite forcibly I might add. Now another U turn and you're back to guilty. Do you think a time might come when you will switch back to innocent?
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,2931.msg103751.html#msg103751
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,2931.msg103772.html#msg103772
I have no intention whatsoever of exchanging posts with you and in any event I think I might struggle against your superior intellectual and analytical skills. And of course your succinct way with words v my "rambling" posts.
Quite! @)(++(*
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Step back gents 8()-000( ... I can hear the sound of claws being sharpened! 8(8-))
No need to step back, I'm not interested in shooting the breeze with M's Goodhead. &%&£(+
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Step back gents 8()-000( ... I can hear the sound of claws being sharpened! 8(8-))
I too thought Jeremy innocent at one time, for me the thought that any young man so well heeled as he was could do such a dastardly deed was unthinkable but then as I started to peruse the evidence I came to my senses, the rest is as they say, history.
Holly has always been welcome here even though she holds an opposing view to most of us, she is to be commended for her fortitude and persistence if nothing else. So please girls, lets debate the issues and not dwell on the past.
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I too thought Jeremy innocent at one time, for me the thought that any young man so well heeled as he was could do such a dastardly deed was unthinkable but then as I started to peruse the evidence I came to my senses, the rest is as they say, history.
Holly has always been welcome here even though she holds an opposing view to most of us, she is to be commended for her fortitude and persistence if nothing else. So please girls, lets debate the issues and not dwell on the past.
As if 8(0(*
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Oh ... hi Caroline and welcome! I am not the most observant as you can probably tell! Glad to see you have realised Bamber is truly a wrong 'un' .... I have seen many people move from innocent to guilty but never seen anyone read the whole case and move the other way!
Holly is coming next!
It's really a very simple case imho and although there is a mountain of circumstantial evidence , the simple fact is Sheila could not (and would not) of committed the murders ergo Bamber is guilty beyond any reasonable doubt! Even without the sound moderator evidence, just her clean feet, lack of blood evidence and lack of gun shot residue on her hands and clothes is way more than enough proof in my book! Let alone the preposterous notion she beat her dad so badly and didn't sustain one bruise or chip a manicured fingernail! Then you add Julie and the rest of the evidence and it's blindingly obvious Bamber is guilty.
And again imho Bamber will never confess. Even Nugnug an idiot knows there can be no redemption for executing children to gain there inheritance! Bamber knows full well that his crime is indeed 'evil almost beyond belief!
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I too thought Jeremy innocent at one time, for me the thought that any young man so well heeled as he was could do such a dastardly deed was unthinkable but then as I started to peruse the evidence I came to my senses, the rest is as they say, history.
Holly has always been welcome here even though she holds an opposing view to most of us, she is to be commended for her fortitude and persistence if nothing else. So please girls, lets debate the issues and not dwell on the past.
Yes I have - thank you 8((()*/
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*huff* *puff*
Just moving the furniture around to make room for Gladys' commode and Clappy's zimmer.
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They must think we have Tena Lady at half-price 8(0(*
I'm going to get some "Knitting Free Zone" signs put up - all that clacking of needles will hurt my ears 8)><(
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They must think we have Tena Lady at half-price 8(0(*
I'm going to get some "Knitting Free Zone" signs put up - all that clacking of needles will hurt my ears 8)><(
Ho ho!! I've bought some supplies, in readiness of invasion - Poligrip, Exlax, Voltarol, corn plasters, jigsaws and Garibaldi biscuits. And a 5 gallon drum of industrial strength hair gel, in case of flappage. 8((()*/
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Ho ho!! I've bought some supplies, in readiness of invasion - Poligrip, Exlax, Voltarol, corn plasters, jigsaws and Garibaldi biscuits. And a 5 gallon drum of industrial strength hair gel, in case of flappage. 8((()*/
Think you could have saved some money - two or three really can't be constituted as an 'invasion' and April and I have no use for the above. Although, you can hang on to the Garibaldi's, they're not bad - prefer Jaffa Cakes or hobnobs but I guess we'll make do! 8(0(*
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Ho ho!! I've bought some supplies, in readiness of invasion - Poligrip, Exlax, Voltarol, corn plasters, jigsaws and Garibaldi biscuits. And a 5 gallon drum of industrial strength hair gel, in case of flappage. 8((()*/
I'll draw up a checklist. The above sounds fairly comprehensive. I have heard one in particular has a penchant for sandals so I'm sure the corn plasters will come in handy. Will add air fresheners. 8((()*/
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For info only - Relocated thread.
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Welcome Caroline!