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Alleged Miscarriages of Justice => Jeremy Bamber and the callous murder of his father, mother, sister and twin nephews. Case effectively CLOSED by CCRC on basis of NO APPEAL REFERRAL. => Topic started by: Holly Goodhead on November 25, 2015, 09:41:43 AM
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As a result of discussing SL yesterday I had a look at his other books and general info re Barry George. I found a Panorama doc was made which featured an interview with the foreman of the trial jury. Now if SL could get an interview with the foreman of JB's trial that, I'm sure, would be very interesting indeed!
I thought members of the jury were under some sort of oath not to discuss any aspect of the trial during and after?
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As a result of discussing SL yesterday I had a look at his other books and general info re Barry George. I found a Panorama doc was made which featured an interview with the foreman of the trial jury. Now if SL could get an interview with the foreman of JB's trial that, I'm sure, would be very interesting indeed!
I thought members of the jury were under some sort of oath not to discuss any aspect of the trial during and after?
Unless it was because Barry George was wrongfully convicted, so in his case that rule was waived...
https://www.gov.uk/jury-service/discussing-the-trial (https://www.gov.uk/jury-service/discussing-the-trial)
In the USA it seems that a different rule applies...
https://www.quora.com/Do-ex-jury-members-get-paid-for-post-trial-interviews-If-so-would-a-foreman-interview-be-worth-more-than-other-jurors (https://www.quora.com/Do-ex-jury-members-get-paid-for-post-trial-interviews-If-so-would-a-foreman-interview-be-worth-more-than-other-jurors)
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As a result of discussing SL yesterday I had a look at his other books and general info re Barry George. I found a Panorama doc was made which featured an interview with the foreman of the trial jury. Now if SL could get an interview with the foreman of JB's trial that, I'm sure, would be very interesting indeed!
I thought members of the jury were under some sort of oath not to discuss any aspect of the trial during and after?
I think it's the deliberations they aren't allowed to discuss after?
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I think it's the deliberations they aren't allowed to discuss after?
I think I recall Nelly posting up about it. Is there any chance in your capacity as Zoso we can have the old search facility back? Ie at one time it was possible to Google 'Jeremy Bamber forum NGB jurors' with some results.
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Unless it was because Barry George was wrongfully convicted, so in his case that rule was waived...
https://www.gov.uk/jury-service/discussing-the-trial (https://www.gov.uk/jury-service/discussing-the-trial)
In the USA it seems that a different rule applies...
https://www.quora.com/Do-ex-jury-members-get-paid-for-post-trial-interviews-If-so-would-a-foreman-interview-be-worth-more-than-other-jurors (https://www.quora.com/Do-ex-jury-members-get-paid-for-post-trial-interviews-If-so-would-a-foreman-interview-be-worth-more-than-other-jurors)
Good point and you maybe right but I do recall many moons ago on Blue someone posing the question about jurors and Nelly said something along the lines that jurors could fess up voluntarily but they couldn't be approached by others but I might have got that totally wrong.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/7067290.stm
https://www.gov.uk/jury-service/discussing-the-trial
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As a result of discussing SL yesterday I had a look at his other books and general info re Barry George. I found a Panorama doc was made which featured an interview with the foreman of the trial jury. Now if SL could get an interview with the foreman of JB's trial that, I'm sure, would be very interesting indeed!
I thought members of the jury were under some sort of oath not to discuss any aspect of the trial during and after?
Grand Jury proceedings are private and subject to an oath of secrecy.
Pre-verdict trial juries are not allowed to discuss the trial except in the deliberation room. If they discuss things outside of court or the deliberation room it can be grounds for a mistrial.
Post verdict they required by law not to discuss what went on in the deliberation room. They are free to discuss the case generally and anything they want except what went on in the deliberation room. If they talk about what went on in the deliberation room it is violation of Section 8 of the Contempt of Court statute:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1981/49/section/8
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Grand Jury proceedings are private and subject to an oath of secrecy.
Pre-verdict trial juries are not allowed to discuss the trial except in the deliberation room. If they discuss things outside of court or the deliberation room it can be grounds for a mistrial.
Post verdict they required by law not to discuss what went on in the deliberation room. They are free to discuss the case generally and anything they want except what went on in the deliberation room. If they talk about what went on in the deliberation room it is violation of Section 8 of the Contempt of Court statute:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1981/49/section/8
Thanks:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/7067290.stm
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Thanks
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/7067290.stm
Nothing quoted in the article discussed the deliberations but rather the significance of the evidence in general terms. If you read the section I quoted you will see that the press asking about deliberations would also violate the section you can't solicit such information from jurors.
You should also take note of the substance behind the quashing in that case.
1) the defendant didn't have time to wash or change before being picked up by police
2) the defendant only had a single particle of GSR on him
3) the prosecution argued that the single particle linked him to the murder
On appeal and retrial it was brought out that:
A) if he had committed the murders he would have had far more than just 1 particle of GSR on him because he had no time to change and all but 1 particle of GSR would not have transferred from his body and clothing in such a short period of time
B) that is is quite easy for a single particle to transfer
Not surprisingly the prosecution retrial flopped since they had zilch to link him to the crime. The same way there is zero physical evidence to link Sheila to the crimes. She had no reason to wash and change but more importantly no ability to change without the clothing she wore being found if she had changed. Naturally she had no ability to change out of the clothing she was killed in period. That clothing lacked GSR that would have been present had she shot herself sans moderator and her blood would have been found in the rifle had she shot herself sans moderator.
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I think I recall Nelly posting up about it. Is there any chance in your capacity as Zoso we can have the old search facility back? Ie at one time it was possible to Google 'Jeremy Bamber forum NGB jurors' with some results.
'We' is that the royal 'we'? No one has changed the search facility, so as there is no new search facility, I can't bring the old one back.
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'We' is that the royal 'we'? No one has changed the search facility, so as there is no new search facility, I can't bring the old one back.
Maybe an admin altered the weightings in the admin control panel.
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'We' is that the royal 'we'? No one has changed the search facility, so as there is no new search facility, I can't bring the old one back.
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6964.msg326953.html#msg326953
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6365.msg282221.html#msg282221
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6365.msg282248.html#msg282248
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6365.msg282409.html#msg282409
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6365.msg282461.html#msg282461
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Nothing quoted in the article discussed the deliberations but rather the significance of the evidence in general terms. If you read the section I quoted you will see that the press asking about deliberations would also violate the section you can't solicit such information from jurors.
You should also take note of the substance behind the quashing in that case.
1) the defendant didn't have time to wash or change before being picked up by police
2) the defendant only had a single particle of GSR on him
3) the prosecution argued that the single particle linked him to the murder
On appeal and retrial it was brought out that:
A) if he had committed the murders he would have had far more than just 1 particle of GSR on him because he had no time to change and all but 1 particle of GSR would not have transferred from his body and clothing in such a short period of time
B) that is is quite easy for a single particle to transfer
Not surprisingly the prosecution retrial flopped since they had zilch to link him to the crime. The same way there is zero physical evidence to link Sheila to the crimes. She had no reason to wash and change but more importantly no ability to change without the clothing she wore being found if she had changed. Naturally she had no ability to change out of the clothing she was killed in period. That clothing lacked GSR that would have been present had she shot herself sans moderator and her blood would have been found in the rifle had she shot herself sans moderator.
I would like to hear from jurors at JB's trial discuss similar.
Can you please stay on topic.
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http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6964.msg326953.html#msg326953
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6365.msg282221.html#msg282221
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6365.msg282248.html#msg282248
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6365.msg282409.html#msg282409
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6365.msg282461.html#msg282461
When Neil decided to make the blue forum boards visible to members only the googlebot missed several opportunities to collect data but that situation should resolve itself over time. We use hidden threads on this forum where we do not want comments to be seen by other members or the public at large.
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When Neil decided to make the blue forum boards visible to members only the googlebot missed several opportunities to collect data but that situation should resolve itself over time. We use hidden threads on this forum where we do not want comments to be seen by other members or the public at large.
I've just checked the search facility on Blue and it is now working but it wasn't yesterday and hadnt been working since Nelly's ill fated experiment. They are most def not ahead of the curve. Red wins on Admin and IT and that isnt a grudge Caroline, or sour grapes, it's based on my personal experience as a user 8((()*/
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I've just checked the search facility on Blue and it is now working but it wasn't yesterday and hadnt been working since Nelly's ill fated experiment. They are most def not ahead of the curve. Red wins on Admin and IT and that isnt a grudge Caroline, or sour grapes, it's based on my personal experience as a user 8((()*/
No one has touched the search facility - if you don't search properly you get crap results. I'd say your problem was between the computer screen and the back of your chair! Of course it's not a dig - you keep telling yourself that! (TRAGIC!! @)(++(* )
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No one has touched the search facility - if you don't search properly you get crap results. I'd say your problem was between the computer screen and the back of your chair! Of course it's not a dig - you keep telling yourself that! (TRAGIC!! @)(++(* )
Hmmm funny how Reader who moderates Blue experienced the same problem:
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6365.msg282221.html#msg282221
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6365.msg282248.html#msg282248
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6365.msg282409.html#msg282409
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6365.msg282461.html#msg282461
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Hmmm funny how Reader who moderates Blue experienced the same problem:
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6365.msg282221.html#msg282221
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6365.msg282248.html#msg282248
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6365.msg282409.html#msg282409
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6365.msg282461.html#msg282461
Yes, when it was a closed forum! I really don't care if you believe me or not but nothing has been done to the search facility. When the forum was closed to guests, it affected anyone using Google search, now it's open again Google can search it. Simples! Whatever search yo did yesterday, you didn't do correctly - but I made no changes to the forum on your behalf and I have NEVER altered anything to do with the search facility. Now, I hope that's clear enough for you!
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Wow just watching Germany V England Women's footy friendly and just managed to find Nelly's opinion re jurors using the search facility during half-time. How cool is that 8(>((
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,2829.msg96403.html#msg96403
And I rembered it correctly 8(>((
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6820.msg289016#msg289016
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/jul/17/law.claredyer