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Alleged Miscarriages of Justice => Jeremy Bamber and the callous murder of his father, mother, sister and twin nephews. Case effectively CLOSED by CCRC on basis of NO APPEAL REFERRAL. => Topic started by: adam on December 30, 2015, 05:19:58 PM
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https://youtu.be/xPwzI1cDMm4
Although the American accent has gone, perhaps Sheila was in the kitchen ! ?
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I notice that your tongue is firmly implanted in your cheek, Adam. @)(++(*
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My word, that's a very posh cut-glass accent for a Yorkshireman... jolly bad show, what, what, what!!!
But it can't disguise the fact that five years later he's still peddling the same old twaddle. %56&
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https://youtu.be/xPwzI1cDMm4
Although the American accent has gone, perhaps Sheila was in the kitchen ! ?
I doubt it very much.I place a lot of weight on the testimony of Dr Craig and Dr Vanezis and it doesn't fit with SC in the kitchen around the time the raid team broke in.
Adam why not post up parts 1 - 3 incl as well? Or are they unrelated? I can't recall now?
Although I disagree with the content I think Mike's delivery is good in the vid.
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Doubt it very much!!? IMPOSSIBLEMENT!.... as a phony Italian lawyer once said.
His others are more of the same old, he just likes having his mug on YouTube.
As for the delivery?... nowhere near as tuneful as Ana Moura.*sigh*
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https://youtu.be/2V1BWtxcrzc
Found part 3. Which is saying the police are responsible for Sheila's death. Mmmm.
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Was that Welsh Dresser nicked from White House Farm? &%+((£
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https://youtu.be/2V1BWtxcrzc
Found part 3. Which is saying the police are responsible for Sheila's death. Mmmm.
Mmmm indeed! It doesn't fit with the testimony of Dr Craig and Dr Vanezis.
Mike why do you do this? You have been involved with the case for some 25 years surely by now you have some coherent narrative that you can sing from the roof tops that doesn't make you look a complete t**t? Instead you flit from one bizarre theory to the next. Why? This time last year you wanted the twins exhumed for DNA evidence when there's no way in the world DNA evidence can assist in this case due to the way the SoC and exhibits were preserved in a pre DNA era. You surely must realise this and yet you persist....
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1033.msg208710#msg208710
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Mmmm indeed! It doesn't fit with the testimony of Dr Craig and Dr Vanezis.
Mike why do you do this? You have been involved with the case for some 25 years surely by now you have some coherent narrative that you can sing from the roof tops that doesn't make you look a complete t**t? Instead you flit from one bizarre theory to the next. Why? This time last year you wanted the twins exhumed for DNA evidence when there's no way in the world DNA evidence can assist in this case due to the way the SoC and exhibits were preserved in a pre DNA era. You surely must realise this and yet you persist....
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1033.msg208710#msg208710
In my world mmmmm means mmmmm food but luckily I just had dinner...
Tesko made up that they found blood on the baffles was HP.2 Both Lincoln and Hayward's results were HP 2.1 so right off the bat he starts off with a lie. He hates the cops so much he is hell bent on pretending they engaged in serious wrongdoing.
He recognizes Sheila was killed. The only way to say she was killed yet Jeremy innocent is to say police killed her. This serves his goal of trashing the police so he runs with it even though it is absurd. Some people like lookout and even NGB encourage him in such efforts and that makes him think others will buy it as well. Harters got banned after tearing NGB a new one for saying maybe police did shoot her and move her body.
This kind of crap is why Jeremy needed to distance himself from Mike because it makes Jeremy look bad if he is viewed as endorsing such crap.
Mike has nothing legitimate to run with so takes suspicions Jeremy's team had and crafts wild things. For challenging such crap I got banned. He simply used my comment to lookout as a pretext. Most people tolerate him out of necessity and hope he will post some unseen documents.
Jeremy doesn't want the documents posted so in a way him posting them hurts Jeremy. By posing them he has provided the public with some clarity even though that was not his intention and he actually tried to distort the meaning. So we have to just ignore his commentary and read the documents ourselves. Without his leaking of documents our understanding would be less so we have to be thankful he is a disloyal twit.
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In my world mmmmm means mmmmm food but luckily I just had dinner...
Tesko made up that they found blood on the baffles was HP.2 Both Lincoln and Hayward's results were HP 2.1 so right off the bat he starts off with a lie. He hates the cops so much he is hell bent on pretending they engaged in serious wrongdoing.
He recognizes Sheila was killed. The only way to say she was killed yet Jeremy innocent is to say police killed her. This serves his goal of trashing the police so he runs with it even though it is absurd. Some people like lookout and even NGB encourage him in such efforts and that makes him think others will buy it as well. Harters got banned after tearing NGB a new one for saying maybe police did shoot her and move her body.
This kind of crap is why Jeremy needed to distance himself from Mike because it makes Jeremy look bad if he is viewed as endorsing such crap.
Mike has nothing legitimate to run with so takes suspicions Jeremy's team had and crafts wild things. For challenging such crap I got banned. He simply used my comment to lookout as a pretext. Most people tolerate him out of necessity and hope he will post some unseen documents.
Jeremy doesn't want the documents posted so in a way him posting them hurts Jeremy. By posing them he has provided the public with some clarity even though that was not his intention and he actually tried to distort the meaning. So we have to just ignore his commentary and read the documents ourselves. Without his leaking of documents our understanding would be less so we have to be thankful he is a disloyal twit.
This letter from Jeremy to Mike is rather amusing
(http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=229.0;attach=782)
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The words pot and kettle spring to mind.
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Fair play to some supporters. They put themselves out there, on Youtube, the internet, radio and television. Donating their hard earned money and free time to the cause.
I am not sure why, apart from having to do this to get him released. Every piece of evidence points to Bamber. While everything put forward from supporters have straight forward answers.
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https://youtu.be/nnhRu5JTRbM
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Fair play to some supporters. They put themselves out there, on Youtube, the internet, radio and television. Donating their hard earned money and free time to the cause.
I am not sure why, apart from having to do this to get him released. Every piece of evidence points to Bamber. While everything put forward from supporters have straight forward answers.
What about the invisible 'supporters'? The silent ones? Those that no one has any knowledge of?
"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tend to be the difficult ones."
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What about the invisible 'supporters'? The silent ones? Those that no one has any knowledge of?
"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tend to be the difficult ones."
You mean lookout obviously. 8((()*/ Are you taking the p*ss? &%+((£
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A supporter said recently, if Bamber wanted to stage the scene to make it look like murder/suicide, he would have killed himself at WHF !
Bless there hearts.
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Fair play to some supporters. They put themselves out there, on Youtube, the internet, radio and television. Donating their hard earned money and free time to the cause.
I am not sure why, apart from having to do this to get him released. Every piece of evidence points to Bamber. While everything put forward from supporters have straight forward answers.
After all this time and several forums later I still fail to understand why Mike Teskowski has devoted such a large part of his life attempting to flog what is basically a dead horse. He and his wife were declared insolvent not so long ago so one cannot but help wondering if he had let things slip due to his perceived obsession with the case and all things Jeremy Bamber?
The question has become all the more valid since Jeremy decided to distance himself from Mike and the blue forum.
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It is strange how people interpret information.
I took an interest because it was a famous case and there were pictures & Youtube clips of Bamber looking dapper in a suit.
The information online and on Youtube is very 50/50 and Wilkes's book is the least biased. But I never for a second thought he was innocent.
When first looking into the case, aware there had been an arrest, conviction and failed appeals, it would have had to have been something pretty mind blowing to believe they all got it wrong. Julie lying because she was apparently jilted or two bodies at first being reported in the kitchen etc, was never enough.
Posting on two forums, just made his guilt more certain to me.
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It is strange how people interpret information.
I took an interest because it was a famous case and there were pictures & Youtube clips of Bamber looking dapper in a suit.
The information online and on Youtube is very 50/50 and Wilkes's book is the least biased. But I never for a second thought he was innocent.
When first looking into the case, aware there had been an arrest, conviction and failed appeals, it would have had to have been something pretty mind blowing to believe they all got it wrong. Julie lying because she was apparently jilted or two bodies at first being reported in the kitchen etc, was never enough.
Posting on two forums, just made his guilt more certain to me.
Same here, Adam. When you post on forums the evidence can be looked at a lot more closely than a book. When I read something in a book, whether it is a guilt or innocence book - I still think it's best to read the actual document yourself to make sure no spin has been put on it.
It's why I won't be reading Scott Lomax's book - his last one was enough awful BS for a liftetime and I'd rather read forum posts where the poster actual seems to know what they are talking about.
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I agree, books should only be used for cross referencing purposes.
Julie Mugford's substantial statements and trial testimony are without doubt central to the case of Jeremy Bamber and the White House Farm murders. Just think about it for a moment.
Had the murders not taken place, was it normal for someone to spend so much time and energy plotting to murder ones family and burn down the family home with them in it? Was it normal to experiment with sleeping tablets to see what effect they would have on your victim? The murders aside, it is very clear that Jeremy Bamber had some very serious psychological problems.
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I agree, books should only be used for cross referencing purposes.
Julie Mugford's substantial statements and trial testimony are without doubt central to the case of Jeremy Bamber and the White House Farm murders. Just think about it for a moment.
Had the murders not taken place, was it normal for someone to spend so much time and energy plotting to murder ones family and burn down the family home with them in it? Was it normal to experiment with sleeping tablets to see what effect they would have on your victim? The murders aside, it is very clear that Jeremy Bamber had some very serious psychological problems.
Was it normal for a girlfriend to repeatedly listen to her boyfriend talk in such terms? I'm pretty certain I would be off sharpish...whoosh....gone...
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You weren't Julie Mugford. She was infatuated, maybe insecure with first serious boyfriend syndrome and hence scared of letting go.
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Was it normal for a girlfriend to repeatedly listen to her boyfriend talk in such terms? I'm pretty certain I would be off sharpish...whoosh....gone...
I don't think Julie believed for a moment he would carry out his threats, she probably hoped he would come good in the end.