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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: pegasus on May 14, 2016, 08:25:00 PM
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@GUnit. NPIA expert Mark Harrison seems to have been unaware that two apartments were provided in block 4. He recommended that Eddie search 4-G, but made no mention of 4-I. Therefore Eddie never searched it.
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@GUnit. NPIA expert Mark Harrison seems to have been unaware that two apartments were provided in block 4. He recommended that Eddie search 4-G, but made no mention of 4-I. Therefore Eddie never searched it.
I didnt know this, why were there two apartments allocated? For relatives? Thanks. Maybe copy to dog thread, well, one of the dozens of them.
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@GUnit. NPIA expert Mark Harrison seems to have been unaware that two apartments were provided in block 4. He recommended that Eddie search 4-G, but made no mention of 4-I. Therefore Eddie never searched it.
Is 4I the one referred to as 'Mission Control'?
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Is 4I the one referred to as 'Mission Control'?
Interesting stuff. I am all ears.
Come on Shining. Come on Peg, are you getting at something?
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Pls share ... even if only by PM. Thanks.
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"... 15 May ... By this time we were using one of the apartments loaned to us by Mark Warner as an office ..."
It's unclear whether this is 4-I, or an unknown third apartment.
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"... 15 May ... By this time we were using one of the apartments loaned to us by Mark Warner as an office ..."
It's unclear whether this is 4-I, or an unknown third apartment.
The Tapas supervisor was delivering food to just two apartments at the beginning [8th May statement];
That every day around 13H00, he heads to no. 4-G (where the family of the missing child is staying) and to no. 4-1 (where 10 people are lodged) to deliver lunch. He repeats this routine at 20H00 to take them dinner.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TIAGO_BARREIROS.htm
I wonder who the ten were? Kate's parents and Nora [3]. Trish and husband [2] Nicky and Michelle [2] Michael Wright [1] John and Granny McCann?
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Interesting stuff. I am all ears.
Come on Shining. Come on Peg, are you getting at something?
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Pls share ... even if only by PM. Thanks.
Kate's book refers to work carried out in early days as being from an MW place called 'Mission Control'. I'm just interested in where that was and why the dogs did not search it.
If the Tapas staff delivered meals for 10 to 4I, then hmm... Perhaps it was an office by day, and a meeting place in the evening. Does anyone know how many people 4I could sleep? Surely not 10?
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Kate's book refers to work carried out in early days as being from an MW place called 'Mission Control'. I'm just interested in where that was and why the dogs did not search it.
If the Tapas staff delivered meals for 10 to 4I, then hmm... Perhaps it was an office by day, and a meeting place in the evening. Does anyone know how many people 4I could sleep? Surely not 10?
Two more? All the meals delivered to one of them though?
Mark Warner had put two more apartments at our disposal to accommodate everyone who wanted to be there
Madeleine. Kate McCann
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Did Warners foot the bill for everything?
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It would appear they did. Apartments [3?]. Breakfast, lunch and dinner for up to 14. Flights for family and friends. Childcare for the twins. Alan Pike plus apartment plus meals?. Alex Woolfall from Bell Pottinger. Private villa for Madeleine's birthday BBQ plus food. Car and driver when needed. I assume the rest of the group weren't charged for their extended stays. Alternative holidays for those booked into OC in the following weeks who didn't fancy it anymore. It cost MW thousands I would think.
I have wondered why. On the face of it MW did nothing to contribute to what happened but they seemed to go beyond the call of duty. It's natural to be sympathetic, but on the other hand this was a business. Then I saw what Matthew Oldfield said; that David Payne told the booking people that they had to be near each other so they could 'listen' for the children. The correct response from MW was to make it quite clear that the resort wasn't suitable for a 'listening' service and that they did not advise it. If MW didn't make that response they could have been seen as approving of the plan.
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Two more? All the meals delivered to one of them though?
Mark Warner had put two more apartments at our disposal to accommodate everyone who wanted to be there
Madeleine. Kate McCann
Thanks G-Unit. From the context (page 168) the couple had 3 apartments already on Saturday 5th May.
We know about two of them: 4-G and 4-I which are both on the first-floor of block 4.
But where was the mystery third apartment? Was it also in block 4? Or was it in a completely different building?
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Thanks G-Unit. From the context (page 168) the couple had 3 apartments already on Saturday 5th May.
We know about two of them: 4-G and 4-I which are both on the first-floor of block 4.
But where was the mystery third apartment? Was it also in block 4? Or was it in a completely different building?
Gerry visited. Do you 'go round' to next door but one? It depends on the layout of the floors and your speech patterns I suppose.
Gerry had gone round to one of the other apartments our party was occupying,
'Madeleine' by Kate McCann
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The third apartment provided on Sat 5th May was a duplex penthouse apartment on the top floors of block 4.
(Source: NG statement)
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@heri have you ever been to the top of the stairs?
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It would appear they did. Apartments [3?]. Breakfast, lunch and dinner for up to 14. Flights for family and friends. Childcare for the twins. Alan Pike plus apartment plus meals?. Alex Woolfall from Bell Pottinger. Private villa for Madeleine's birthday BBQ plus food. Car and driver when needed. I assume the rest of the group weren't charged for their extended stays. Alternative holidays for those booked into OC in the following weeks who didn't fancy it anymore. It cost MW thousands I would think.
I have wondered why. On the face of it MW did nothing to contribute to what happened but they seemed to go beyond the call of duty. It's natural to be sympathetic, but on the other hand this was a business. Then I saw what Matthew Oldfield said; that David Payne told the booking people that they had to be near each other so they could 'listen' for the children. The correct response from MW was to make it quite clear that the resort wasn't suitable for a 'listening' service and that they did not advise it. If MW didn't make that response they could have been seen as approving of the plan.
The beginning of the freebies? No wonder they felt they did nothing wrong being treated with kid gloves and like they were 'royalty' and they repay their hosts by telling the world no one was looking for their daughter - disgraceful.
They had an office- the begining of their family firm * the Fund*
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It would appear they did. Apartments [3?]. Breakfast, lunch and dinner for up to 14. Flights for family and friends. Childcare for the twins. Alan Pike plus apartment plus meals?. Alex Woolfall from Bell Pottinger. Private villa for Madeleine's birthday BBQ plus food. Car and driver when needed. I assume the rest of the group weren't charged for their extended stays. Alternative holidays for those booked into OC in the following weeks who didn't fancy it anymore. It cost MW thousands I would think.
I have wondered why. On the face of it MW did nothing to contribute to what happened but they seemed to go beyond the call of duty. It's natural to be sympathetic, but on the other hand this was a business. Then I saw what Matthew Oldfield said; that David Payne told the booking people that they had to be near each other so they could 'listen' for the children. The correct response from MW was to make it quite clear that the resort wasn't suitable for a 'listening' service and that they did not advise it. If MW didn't make that response they could have been seen as approving of the plan.
It depends on how you look at it. Considering the balustrades were suspect, I wonder if they thought two year olds safe in the apartments.
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@heri have you ever been to the top of the stairs?
What's at the top of the stairs?
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Nicky Gill and Michelle Thompson travelled out together on 6th May;
Michelle and I travelled from Liverpool directly to Faro early on Sunday morning. We were met at the airport by representatives from Mark Warner who took us to the Ocean Club resort. We stayed in an apartment on the top floor of the same block where Kate and Gerry were staying.
Another friend, Linda McQueen and I travelled together on 26th June and returned on 29th June. We stayed in the apartment that Sandy and Trish had occupied.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/NICKY_GILL.htm
Sandy and I stayed in an apartment that also served as an office. Sandy dealt with the correspondence and I helped in the kitchen and with cleaning.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PATRICIA_CAMERON.htm
On Saturday, 5 May, I caught a plane from Leeds-Bradford to Faro and caught a taxi from the airport to the Mark Warner complex. Initially I stayed in an apartment in the same complex as Kate and Gerry.....family and friends sleeping wherever they could.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MICHAEL_WRIGHT.htm
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It depends on how you look at it. Considering the balustrades were suspect, I wonder if they thought two year olds safe in the apartments.
Once family and friends arrived everything was covered. The men helped with 'Mission control' the women with childminding, cooking and cleaning. Gerry and Kate attended meetings and spoke to the media. They saw the twins as much as they could.
Later that day Kate phoned to ask whether Michelle and I could help look after the twins. We entertained the children between the two of us that afternoon......I stayed with them in the villa and once again helped take care of the twins when they had meetings,
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/NICKY_GILL.htm
I helped in the attempt to keep the daily routine of the twins, namely in taking them to the day-care centre
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/L-R-MCQUEEN.htm
In the afternoons we would go out with the children, I didnt think it was a good idea for them to be in the creche for the whole day, we tried to maintain a routine in order to give them a sense of normality.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PATRICIA_CAMERON.htm
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What's at the top of the stairs?
Have you considered trying the extreme-research method of looking at photos?
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Have you considered trying the extreme-research method of looking at photos?
I'm learning from you. I'm saving and categorising any photo I come across from now on.