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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: John on July 01, 2016, 08:10:43 PM
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Is a Madeleine McCann new age progression image on the cards?
The Madeleine McCann investigation has advanced little in the nine years since the unfortunate youngster disappeared whilst on holiday with her parents in the Portuguese Algarve resort of Praia da Luz.
Several age progression images have been created and published since 2007 (some depicted below) in an attempt to find the missing girl but to no avail. If Madeleine is still alive she will have reached her 13th birthday in April, is it now time for an updated image to be released?
(http://i.imgur.com/wjkbGr1.jpg) (http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/1/590x/secondary/207507.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/vQgpFKX.jpg?2-Missing-Madeleine_McCann-Praia_da_Luz-Portugal) (https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/gettyimages-92620162.jpg?w=620&h=775&crop=1)
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Are scotland yard or the mccanns so low n money they cant afford a new age progression picture?
https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/mccann?lang=en-gb
Post by a carla spade
https://mobile.twitter.com/CarlaSpade/status/748300945302355969/photo/1
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/kate-mccann-wants-new-artists-7848651
What is that webmaster on about? EMotional aspect? Of course, but is it a reason to NOT get one done?
No stone unturned?
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Are scotland yard or the mccanns so low n money they cant afford a new age progression picture?
https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/mccann?lang=en-gb
Post by a carla spade
https://mobile.twitter.com/CarlaSpade/status/748300945302355969/photo/1
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/kate-mccann-wants-new-artists-7848651
What is that webmaster on about? EMotional aspect? Of course, but is it a reason to NOT get one done?
No stone unturned?
Are we really being asked by the webmaster to believe that her parents are not commissioning a new age progressed picture of their daughter because it may upset them? Really?
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Thats what it sounds like, despite Kate Mccann being reported as wantng a new one
Anyone got any other suggestions?
Eta this was also the exact same reason KM gave about going back to do a recnstruction
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Thats what it sounds like, despite Kate Mccann being reported as wantng a new one
Anyone got any other suggestions?
Eta this was also the exact same reason KM gave about going back to do a recnstruction
We were told in December that the couple were considering having a new age progression picture of their daughter created as Kate is afraid no one will recognise her anymore. It therefore seems that although SY seem reluctant to fund it there is no legal reason why the McCanns can't go ahead and have an image produced themselves. They have ample money in the fund so cost isn't the reason for their reluctance and the webmaster's claim that the 'emotional aspect' experienced by the McCanns can't possibly be the reason either as the couple have already expressed their eagerness to have an image produced.
IMHO if SY truly believed the child was still alive funds would be made available for a new age progressed image. Her parents, we are told, believe vehemenently that Madeleine may still be alive and they certainly have the funds to pay for the project so why are they so reluctant to go ahead?
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Yup
Fact remains theyre not dong a new age prgression photo after having said they want one as the nine yr old one is now defunct, and the excuses are pitiful
Looking forward to the supporters and apologisers respnses, if any
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We were told in December that the couple were considering having a new age progression picture of their daughter created as Kate is afraid no one will recognise her anymore. It therefore seems that although SY seem reluctant to fund it there is no legal reason why the McCanns can't go ahead and have an image produced themselves. They have ample money in the fund so cost isn't the reason for their reluctance and the webmaster's claim that the 'emotional aspect' experienced by the McCanns can't possibly be the reason either as the couple have already expressed their eagerness to have an image produced.
IMHO if SY truly believed the child was still alive funds would be made available for a new age progressed image. Her parents, we are told, believe vehemenently that Madeleine may still be alive and they certainly have the funds to pay for the project so why are they so reluctant to go ahead?
May we have a cite which substantiates the 'seeming reluctance of SY', or if merely your opinion please state so, thank you.
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May we have a cite which substantiates the 'seeming reluctance of SY', or if merely your opinion please state so, thank you.
May we see a reason theres no new image? That the mccanns desperately want? Oh hang on its too expensive, and too painful to produce, err their pain should be an moetus not a hndrancd!!!! were sitting on 750k with many stones unturned
Nite dear
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May we see a reason theres no new image? That the mccanns desperately want? Oh hang on its too expensive, and too painful to produce, err their pain should be an moetus not a hndrancd!!!! were sitting on 750k with many stones unturned
Nite dear
The exact sort f thing the fund was set up for.
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May we have a cite which substantiates the 'seeming reluctance of SY', or if merely your opinion please state so, thank you.
Kind of turning it on its 'ead a bit and considering "Implied Contracts" The Met by performance do not seem that interested in producing one otherwise we would have seen it. So a cite is hardly necessary. The question remains why have The Met not produced an age progressed image ?
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May we have a cite which substantiates the 'seeming reluctance of SY', or if merely your opinion please state so, thank you.
I think the fact that SY haven't produced an age progression image is evidence enough.
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Kind of turning it on its 'ead a bit and considering "Implied Contracts" The Met by performance do not seem that interested in producing one otherwise we would have seen it. So a cite is hardly necessary. The question remains why have The Met not produced an age progressed image ?
You beat me to it Alice !
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We were told in December that the couple were considering having a new age progression picture of their daughter created as Kate is afraid no one will recognise her anymore. It therefore seems that although SY seem reluctant to fund it there is no legal reason why the McCanns can't go ahead and have an image produced themselves. They have ample money in the fund so cost isn't the reason for their reluctance and the webmaster's claim that the 'emotional aspect' experienced by the McCanns can't possibly be the reason either as the couple have already expressed their eagerness to have an image produced.
IMHO if SY truly believed the child was still alive funds would be made available for a new age progressed image. Her parents, we are told, believe vehemenently that Madeleine may still be alive and they certainly have the funds to pay for the project so why are they so reluctant to go ahead?
Maybe they have finally come to terms with the fact that Madeleine is more likely dead? Would you criticise them for that?
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I think the fact that SY haven't produced an age progression image is evidence enough.
Then, since you cannot provide a for cite Scotland Yard it is - in your opinion. Wouldn't it be the proper thing for you to amend your post to reflect that?
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Maybe they have finally come to terms with the fact that Madeleine is more likely dead? Would you criticise them for that?
Then why are we told Kate is eager to have a new age progression image produced as no one would now recognise Madeleine? Does that sound like someone who has come to terms with their child's likely fate?
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Then, since you cannot provide a for cite Scotland Yard it is - in your opinion. Wouldn't it be the proper thing for you to amend your post to reflect that?
So have SY commissioned a new age progression image then? If so it would seem both Kate and their webmaster are out of the information loop.
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Then why are we told Kate is eager to have a new age progression image produced as no one would now recognise Madeleine? Does that sound like someone who has come to terms with their child's likely fate?
when did she tell you that?
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Is a Madeleine McCann new age progression image on the cards?
The Madeleine McCann investigation has advanced little in the nine years since the unfortunate youngster disappeared whilst on holiday with her parents in the Portuguese Algarve resort of Praia da Luz.
Several age progression images have been created and published since 2007 (some depicted below) in an attempt to find the missing girl but to no avail. If Madeleine is still alive she will have reached her 13th birthday in April, is it now time for an updated image to be released?
(http://i.imgur.com/wjkbGr1.jpg) (http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/1/590x/secondary/207507.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/vQgpFKX.jpg?2-Missing-Madeleine_McCann-Praia_da_Luz-Portugal) (https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/gettyimages-92620162.jpg?w=620&h=775&crop=1)
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when did she tell you that?
It was widely reported.
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Kate McCann wants new artist's impression as nobody would recognise teen Madeleine
(http://i.imgur.com/Bf313qt.jpg?1)
27 April 2016
Kate thinks Madeleine never left Portugal and thinks a third age-progression image would help to find her.
The McCanns may have a new age-progression image of missing Madeleine created.
Mum Kate fears no one will be able to recognise Madeleine, who would turn 13 next month.
The move comes as the British police hunt for her is winding up.
There were images of Madeleine in 2009 as a six-year-old and in 2012 when she would have turned nine.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/kate-mccann-wants-new-artists-7848651
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It was widely reported.
In a tabloid by an unnamed source...? Tsk, tsk....
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In a tabloid by an unnamed source...? Tsk, tsk....
So are you saying Kate isn't eager to have a new age progression image produced? Have we any reason for disbelieving the reports?
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The cost involved in creating an age progression image is very small, indeed, there are various software packages (http://www.mastersingerontology.com/top-25-incredible-age-progression-tools-online.html) on the market capable of doing that very thing.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2601373/Age-progression-software-lets-child-look-like-grow-up.html
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/10/article-2601373-1CFD750200000578-492_634x506.jpg)
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The cost involved in creating an age progression image is very small, indeed, there are various software packages on the market capable of doing that very thing.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2601373/Age-progression-software-lets-child-look-like-grow-up.html
http://www.mastersingerontology.com/top-25-incredible-age-progression-tools-online.html
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/10/article-2601373-1CFD750200000578-492_634x506.jpg)
My recollection of what I've read is that it's better to leave age progression to qualified specialists with the timing of any release determined by the investigating police force within the context of a prepared public appeal.
Assuming that there is an ongoing active investigation into your missing loved one.
Tabloids commissioning any "artist" that they happen to stumble upon to sell more copies could be very dangerous for the missing person in question. Or even for someone who might be a vague "lead" concerning a "suspect".
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My recollection of what I've read is that it's better to leave age progression to qualified specialists with the timing of any release determined by the investigating police force within the context of a prepared public appeal.
Assuming that there is an ongoing active investigation into your missing loved one.
Tabloids commissioning any "artist" that they happen to stumble upon to sell more copies could be very dangerous for the missing person in question. Or even for someone who might be a vague "lead" concerning a "suspect".
That ship sailed 9 years ago Carana. In my opinion anything which can find Maddie is worthwhile.
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That ship sailed 9 years ago Carana. In my opinion anything which can find Maddie is worthwhile.
I don't see how anything misleading could help to find her...
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So are you saying Kate isn't eager to have a new age progression image produced? Have we any reason for disbelieving the reports?
Maybe she was, but maybe she's had second thoughts. Who knows, and frankly who cares.
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The cost involved in creating an age progression image is very small, indeed, there are various software packages (http://www.mastersingerontology.com/top-25-incredible-age-progression-tools-online.html) on the market capable of doing that very thing.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2601373/Age-progression-software-lets-child-look-like-grow-up.html
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/10/article-2601373-1CFD750200000578-492_634x506.jpg)
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/10/article-2601373-1CFD750600000578-832_634x489.jpg)
I'm looking at the photos under: "Can you tell which is which? In tests, people were unable to discern between real and rendered images".
The elderly men (right-hand side) all look identical to me....
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I don't see how anything misleading could help to find her...
I meant the danger to the child was 9 years ago.
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If the McCanns were still serious about finding their missing kid it certainly doesn't come across that way. I have noticed that information relating to Maddie has begun to fade from the media in recent times so could it be that her parents have started to face the horrible possibility that she is no more?
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Maybe she was, but maybe she's had second thoughts. Who knows, and frankly who cares.
Certainly the supporters on their Fecebook page care as they have been asking about it.
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I meant the danger to the child was 9 years ago.
The question on this thread is about new age progression images...
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In a tabloid by an unnamed source...? Tsk, tsk....
Minus a direct quote. Oh dear ?{)(**...
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Minus a direct quote. Oh dear ?{)(**...
Isn't it a bit late for you to get picky about that sort of thing Brietta?
Does your scepticism suggest that you also don't believe Kate is eager to have a new age progression produced?
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Isn't it a bit late for you to get picky about that sort of thing Brietta?
Does your scepticism suggest that you also don't believe Kate is eager to have a new age progression produced?
Can anyone recite any real effort made by either parent to find Maddie in the country from where he disappeared? Surely any parent would be out there regularly liaising with the police and trying to progress some sort of search?
eta oh that's right I forgot. Kate McCann referred to one of the still serving detectives as a f.....g tosser in her book and two others as tweedle dum and tweedle dee.
Bang goes the cooperation then!
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There has been no requirement for Madeleine's parents to continue raising awareness of her independent of the active police investigation into her case.
They have achieved one aim and that is an active search carried out by the police forces of two countries using resources and expertise the McCann's themselves could not have realised in their widest dreams. It remains to be seen if they will achieve the main aim of their continuing efforts, of finding out at the least what happened to her and at the very best effecting her recovery.
They will take no independent action which may jeopardise what remains to worked through of the Scotland Yard and Policia Judiciaria investigations ... and that includes commissioning an updated image of Madeleine.
We don't know what is going on in the investigation, but they do and for various operational reasons it may be an inadvisable course of action to take.
There may be more personal reasons influencing the release of an updated image. Think about it. Who is the image going to portray besides Madeleine?
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There has been no requirement for Madeleine's parents to continue raising awareness of her independent of the active police investigation into her case.
They have achieved one aim and that is an active search carried out by the police forces of two countries using resources and expertise the McCann's themselves could not have realised in their widest dreams. It remains to be seen if they will achieve the main aim of their continuing efforts, of finding out at the least what happened to her and at the very best effecting her recovery.
They will take no independent action which may jeopardise what remains to worked through of the Scotland Yard and Policia Judiciaria investigations ... and that includes commissioning an updated image of Madeleine.
We don't know what is going on in the investigation, but they do and for various operational reasons it may be an inadvisable course of action to take.
There may be more personal reasons influencing the release of an updated image. Think about it. Who is the image going to portray besides Madeleine?
Don't you realise the British cops aren't looking for a live Maddie. The last time they went to Luz they were looking for remains and for someone to blame.
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Certainly the supporters on their Fecebook page care as they have been asking about it.
Do they care about why Kate appears to have had a change of heart? Are they angry and demanding answers?
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Age progression image 2012.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N1oWp9Uyf0
McCanns Sky Interview 2012 following age progression image release.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0ms-ggBhN8k
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Do they care about why Kate appears to have had a change of heart? Are they angry and demanding answers?
Did I say they were angry and demanding answers? I said they were concerned as the questions asked of their webmaster illustrates.
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Did I say they were angry and demanding answers? I said they were concerned as the questions asked of their webmaster illustrates.
I said who cares if Kate has had a change of heart or why, you claimed people on OFM did, what are they saying then?
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I said who cares if Kate has had a change of heart or why, you claimed people on OFM did, what are they saying then?
I think you are getting rather confused Alfie. Supporters are asking if another age progression image is going to be released. The webmaster says no. We have no idea whether this is due to a change of heart by Kate or not and I'm sure the idea hasn't even crossed most supporters minds.
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I think you are getting rather confused Alfie. Supporters are asking if another age progression image is going to be released. The webmaster says no. We have no idea whether this is due to a change of heart by Kate or not and I'm sure the idea hasn't even crossed most supporters minds.
I think it must be you getting confused then when I wrote
"Maybe she (Kate) was (keen for an age progression picture), but maybe she's had second thoughts. Who knows, and frankly who cares".
you replied:
"Certainly the supporters on their Fecebook page care as they have been asking about it".
So you are claiming that the OFM members care about the issue whch you have raised ie: Kate's apparent change of heart and are asking about it.
Hope that's clear now?
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I think you are getting rather confused Alfie. Supporters are asking if another age progression image is going to be released. The webmaster says no. We have no idea whether this is due to a change of heart by Kate or not and I'm sure the idea hasn't even crossed most supporters minds.
How often do police experts commission and release new age progression images of missing children in general? And with which frequency over time and are release dates haphazard?
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I think it must be you getting confused then when I wrote
"Maybe she (Kate) was (keen for an age progression picture), but maybe she's had second thoughts. Who knows, and frankly who cares".
you replied:
"Certainly the supporters on their Fecebook page care as they have been asking about it".
So you are claiming that the OFM members care about the issue whch you have raised ie: Kate's apparent change of heart and are asking about it.
Hope that's clear now?
It was you who stated Kate may have had a change of heart not me. I said supporters cared about whether a new age progression image was going to be released. It is you who are mixing up the two.
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It was you who stated Kate may have had a change of heart not me. I said supporters cared about whether a new age progression image was going to be released. It is you who are mixing up the two.
Whatever, what do you care anyway? You believe Madeleine is dead, so what difference does it make to you what Kate has or hasn't asked for?
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Whatever, what do you care anyway? You believe Madeleine is dead, so what difference does it make to you what Kate has or hasn't asked for?
I have a very strong aversion to the manipulation of well meaning individuals empathy. Don't you?
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I have a very strong aversion to the manipulation of well meaning individuals empathy. Don't you?
Could you explain what you mean specifically? Who is being manipulated and in what way?
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Isn't it a bit late for you to get picky about that sort of thing Brietta?
Does your scepticism suggest that you also don't believe Kate is eager to have a new age progression produced?
Scientifically produced Age Progression images should be reasonably correct, if the data in-putted is correct.
However, we have all witnessed age progression pictures that are wildly different from each other. They cant all be correct as they are so different.
If they are wrong, then they are putting out disinformation ... and that doesn't help.
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Could you explain what you mean specifically? Who is being manipulated and in what way?
Come on Faith, don't duck out. I would like to know that too
Who is being manipulated and in what way?
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Then, since you cannot provide a for cite Scotland Yard it is - in your opinion. Wouldn't it be the proper thing for you to amend your post to reflect that?
I missed this post, the cite is the official madeleine mccann facebook site stating that SY have NOt commissioned a new aged progressed pic..is that what you were asking for?
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I missed this post, the cite is the official madeleine mccann facebook site stating that SY have NOt commissioned a new aged progressed pic..is that what you were asking for?
I think Brietta wanted the exact words which I posted ie 'SY said today they weren't over keen on having a new age progressed imaged produced' . Brietta doesn't t seem to think that the fact that they haven't released one and, of course, the statement from the webmaster is proof enough.
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I have also noticed that the age progression images are all completely different ... seemingly of a different child.
Take your pick .... which one actually looked like Madeleine at that age?
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR8BYweizfYlRNoI7qkEx4tpNfr-J5vE1T95dv5lUsYlIH1PGH6) (https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSYdalvnFoZipwnuSxnIljN5PTnU_9zNO-6dM18cZtpzgT7qr57CQ)(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ5MR2KPQhbHDRi2OHU6g2oTUaGsl2L9yiZrYybBKf_xTYyd3Jh)(http://t4zS1oD4uqSYnnlX6hWpHCCsZhQ
q=tbn:ANd9GcQPjo717g5C34a1ae8PNFQhnP-t4zS1oD4uqSYnnlX6hWpHCCsZhQ)(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT9nGuFtatxy6p7RNr8lMa9eUFcbAiSHyMbt1tIpel87I2IlGUb)(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS00i1tQGkpJwAHqbogc6toUOwbdsryK8WBYWqGk424fDxi-xVFKA)(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRL9tiGT5YQYik9kmjVRM7dEwlUAQI-Odo3S5WSb3g67xvbn-1dmA)
There are some others. Some too bizarre to even contemplate. Now which ones are the correct Madeleine ?
I suppose there is some benefit from near misses but ..........
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I think Brietta wanted the exact words which I posted ie 'SY said today they weren't over keen on having a new age progressed imaged produced' . Brietta doesn't t seem to think that the fact that they haven't released one and, of course, the statement from the webmaster is proof enough.
Thank you for your affirmation that you have a clear understanding of exactly what it was that I requested you to substantiate or add "in my opinion" ... which makes it all the more disappointing that you refused to do so.
I will comment no further but accept your conduct on the matter as part of the learning curve of being a moderator.
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Thank you for your affirmation that you have a clear understanding of exactly what it was that I requested you to substantiate or add "in my opinion" ... which makes it all the more disappointing that you refused to do so.
I will comment no further but accept your conduct on the matter as part of the learning curve of being a moderator.
Firstly I consider your post to be goading as Mercury has also pointed out that the evidence you required was posted. Secondly that you refuse to acknowledge it does not change that.
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Can anyone recite any real effort made by either parent to find Maddie in the country from where he disappeared? Surely any parent would be out there regularly liaising with the police and trying to progress some sort of search?
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There has been huge effort via SY. Have you forgotten that ?
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Age progression image....the papers won't show it whenthey tell the 'abduction story' they will always use the cutsie baby pics to sell papers and keep sympathy for the attention seeking parents. IMO
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I think Brietta wanted the exact words which I posted ie 'SY said today they weren't over keen on having a new age progressed imaged produced' . Brietta doesn't t seem to think that the fact that they haven't released one and, of course, the statement from the webmaster is proof enough.
Its slightly bizarre as Queen would say
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I have also noticed that the age progression images are all completely different ... seemingly of a different child.
Take your pick .... which one actually looked like Madeleine at that age?
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR8BYweizfYlRNoI7qkEx4tpNfr-J5vE1T95dv5lUsYlIH1PGH6) (https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSYdalvnFoZipwnuSxnIljN5PTnU_9zNO-6dM18cZtpzgT7qr57CQ)(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ5MR2KPQhbHDRi2OHU6g2oTUaGsl2L9yiZrYybBKf_xTYyd3Jh)(http://t4zS1oD4uqSYnnlX6hWpHCCsZhQ
q=tbn:ANd9GcQPjo717g5C34a1ae8PNFQhnP-t4zS1oD4uqSYnnlX6hWpHCCsZhQ)(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT9nGuFtatxy6p7RNr8lMa9eUFcbAiSHyMbt1tIpel87I2IlGUb)(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS00i1tQGkpJwAHqbogc6toUOwbdsryK8WBYWqGk424fDxi-xVFKA)(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRL9tiGT5YQYik9kmjVRM7dEwlUAQI-Odo3S5WSb3g67xvbn-1dmA)
There are some others. Some too bizarre to even contemplate. Now which ones are the correct Madeleine ?
I suppose there is some benefit from near misses but ..........
Who did the last four progressions? And were they all part of an official appeal?
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As far as I recall this one was commissioned by the Daily Star and attracted a lot of criticism by the OFM at the time.
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ5MR2KPQhbHDRi2OHU6g2oTUaGsl2L9yiZrYybBKf_xTYyd3Jh)
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As far as I recall this one was commissioned by the Daily Star and attracted a lot of criticism by the OFM at the time.
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ5MR2KPQhbHDRi2OHU6g2oTUaGsl2L9yiZrYybBKf_xTYyd3Jh)
I never read that, perhaps someone will have a cite
Cant for the life of me the mccanns agreeing to the last but one which looks like madonna on drugs or the age 7 bodily deformed but smiling one???
Someone has been taking the piss here big time
And the 6th one iirc we had a "brown version" of was so much older looking than Madeleine was at the time, nowhere near a teenaged, who had THAT one done? Was it okd ??
Eta
(http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Age/Maddie_%20changing.gif)
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Age_Progression.htm
Some info might be in here, need to go
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I never read that, perhaps someone will have a cite
Cant for the life of me the mccanns agreeing to the last but one which looks like madonna on drugs or the age 7 bodily deformed but smiling one???
Someone has been taking the piss here big time
And the 6th one iirc we had a "brown version" of was so much older looking than Madeleine was at the time, nowhere near a teenaged, who had THAT one done? Was it okd ??
Eta
(http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Age/Maddie_%20changing.gif)
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Age_Progression.htm
Some info might be in here, need to go
Did anything come of that John? It is hard to believe they are all the same child.
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Did anything come of that John? It is hard to believe they are all the same child.
There never has been any credible sightings of Madeleine.
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There never has been any credible sightings of Madeleine.
I think that is wrong. The Ibiza Airport photo had two guys flanking a little girl, both those guys matched wanted people from Praia da Luz.
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I think that is wrong. The Ibiza Airport photo had two guys flanking a little girl, both those guys matched wanted people from Praia da Luz.
Wanted by whom and for what?
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Wanted by whom and for what?
By the PJ, wanted for questioning. Wanted because of other people's statements and the drawings they made of them and the photos taken in PDL. Do you need me to show you the pictures of at least 10 other suspects.
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By the PJ, wanted for questioning. Wanted because of other people's statements and the drawings they made of them and the photos taken in PDL. Do you need me to show you the pictures of at least 10 other suspects.
You seem to be saying that these people suspicious because they are wanted and wanted because they are suspicious. Circular reasoning there.
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You seem to be saying that these people suspicious because they are wanted and wanted because they are suspicious. Circular reasoning there.
It would be more an equivalence or a progression wouldn't it? Behaviour suspicious therefore wanted. Sorry if it seems circular. Yet in some ways it does progress. If someone is reported for suspicious behaviour they could become wanted.
Then when the wanted don't come forward, that in itself becomes suspicious, (only for not coming forward).
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I think that is wrong. The Ibiza Airport photo had two guys flanking a little girl, both those guys matched wanted people from Praia da Luz.
Am I right in believing the Ibiza photograph had dubious provenance ?
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Am I right in believing the Ibiza photograph had dubious provenance ?
Initially it was thought to be a hoax but later it was found to be a much earlier photo. Luiz sent it to the McCanns in 2012 but the photo is taken in 2007. He had identified the wrong airport, but later it was found to be Ibiza.
Because of these errors the photo was not acted on seriously until I identified the two men with the girl and contacted Scotland Yard and the McCanns site this year.
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Initially it was thought to be a hoax but later it was found to be a much earlier photo. Luiz sent it to the McCanns in 2012 but the photo is taken in 2007. He had identified the wrong airport, but later it was found to be Ibiza.
Because of these errors the photo was not acted on seriously until I identified the two men with the girl and contacted Scotland Yard and the McCanns site this year.
Quite the little sleuth, it would seem. Did you get a reply from the parents?
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Proof of life? Then what!
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Am I right in believing the Ibiza photograph had dubious provenance ?
The ibiza photo is A pile of horse crap
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The ibiza photo is A pile of horse crap
you're rattled!
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you're rattled!
Yes I have a very good bullshit radar, sorry about that
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Yes I have a very good bullshit radar, sorry about that
you need to get the bullshit radar serviced.