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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: carlymichelle on April 02, 2017, 10:55:58 AM
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it really annoys me all missing children have their own story and identity i dont think kids found should be called the american maddie etc all children deserve their own name and shouldnt be linked to the mcanns or maddie imo
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it really annoys me all missing children have their own story and identity i dont think kids found should be called the american maddie etc all children deserve their own name and shouldnt be linked to the mcanns or maddie imo
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For once, I am in complete agreement with carlymichelle .....
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it really annoys me all missing children have their own story and identity i dont think kids found should be called the american maddie etc all children deserve their own name and shouldnt be linked to the mcanns or maddie imo
I second that Carly.
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Most missing children, American or other nationality, are not linked to Madeleine McCann. Isabel's case is linked because of the circumstances surrounding her disappearance and the fact she was missing until her remains were recently located. I believe the UK media had never mentioned Isabel until this week and most people would have missed the report without the link to Madeleine.
Should you wish to view the history of the case, there is plenty on Websleuths.
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it really annoys me all missing children have their own story and identity i dont think kids found should be called the american maddie etc all children deserve their own name and shouldnt be linked to the mcanns or maddie imo
The media only raise such headlines for one reason and that it because 'Maddie' stories tend to sell newspapers. It is cruel and disrespectful to the little girl whose remains have been identified.
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The media only raise such headlines for one reason and that it because 'Maddie' stories tend to sell newspapers. It is cruel and disrespectful to the little girl whose remains have been identified.
Without Madeleine's case the papers wouldn't have even mentioned just another US missing child. UK papers have never covered Trenton Duckett, Deorr Kunz Jr or Gabriel Johnson.
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It seems that those tasked with finding 'Madeleine' stories are struggling. The Supreme Court judgement and it's swift rejection of the complaint seem to have left the McCanns dumbstruck.
We have had stories about a choir, a 10th anniversary bidding war, some 'nasty' Portuguese 'experts', breach of Kate's publisher's copyright, and a nervous collapse by their Webmaster. Mark Williams-Thomas, Dave Edgar and the McCann's 'friend' have given their views but the McCanns, Amaral and OG have remained completely silent.
This story is a measure of how far down the barrel the scraping has got in my opinion. It is indeed disgraceful, but not surprising.
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It seems that those tasked with finding 'Madeleine' stories are struggling. The Supreme Court judgement and it's swift rejection of the complaint seem to have left the McCanns dumbstruck.
We have had stories about a choir, a 10th anniversary bidding war, some 'nasty' Portuguese 'experts', breach of Kate's publisher's copyright, and a nervous collapse by their Webmaster. Mark Williams-Thomas, Dave Edgar and the McCann's 'friend' have given their views but the McCanns, Amaral and OG have remained completely silent.
This story is a measure of how far down the barrel the scraping has got in my opinion. It is indeed disgraceful, but not surprising.
This whole thread rather smacks of faux outrage and getting upset on behalf of others as supporters are always being accused of. In my humble opinion of course....
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This whole thread rather smacks of faux outrage and getting upset on behalf of others as supporters are always being accused of. In my humble opinion of course....
I do agree that each, individual, missing child should have his, or her, own individual and unique identity.
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I do agree that each, individual, missing child should have his, or her, own individual and unique identity.
Madeleine's name is not mentioned in any of the US media headlines - the country where it matters. Most of the headlines in the UK feature Isabel's name.
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One thing that is 100% guaranteed - if it turns out the parents dunnit in the American case people like G-Unit and Carlymichelle are very unlikely to be disgusted and appalled when parallels are drawn with the Madeleine McCann case.
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One thing that is 100% guaranteed - if it turns out the parents dunnit in the American case people like G-Unit and Carlymichelle are very unlikely to be disgusted and appalled when parallels are drawn with the Madeleine McCann case.
Yes...I seem to recall the headline about Deorr Kunz parents' being declared suspects in his disappearance were brought to this forum on Madeleine's board, despite no previous discussion here ........http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7045.0
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Yes...I seem to recall the headline about Deorr Kunz parents' being declared suspects in his disappearance were brought to this forum on Madeleine's board, despite no previous discussion here ........http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7045.0
It happens.
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One thing that is 100% guaranteed - if it turns out the parents dunnit in the American case people like G-Unit and Carlymichelle are very unlikely to be disgusted and appalled when parallels are drawn with the Madeleine McCann case.
Here's one parallel:
"Adding to the mystery of Isabel’s disappearance is the dearth of forensic clues that were left behind by her kidnapper, or kidnappers".
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3262250/private-detective-leading-the-hunt-for-americas-maddie-mccann-says-killer-who-snatched-her-was-already-known-to-her/
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Here's one parallel:
"Adding to the mystery of Isabel’s disappearance is the dearth of forensic clues that were left behind by her kidnapper, or kidnappers".
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3262250/private-detective-leading-the-hunt-for-americas-maddie-mccann-says-killer-who-snatched-her-was-already-known-to-her/
Dearth - ???
dearth
noun
a scarcity or lack of something.
"there is a dearth of evidence"
synonyms: lack, scarcity, scarceness, shortage, shortfall, want, deficiency, insufficiency, inadequacy, paucity, sparseness, meagreness, scantiness, rareness, infrequency, uncommonness, destitution, privation"
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The media only raise such headlines for one reason and that it because 'Maddie' stories tend to sell newspapers. It is cruel and disrespectful to the little girl whose remains have been identified.
Nail on the head there John, you are completely right. Madeline's name alone shifts copy in a time where the printed press is dwindling
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I dont think its as cruel as the abuse the McCanns get on here and other forums
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I dont think its as cruel as the abuse the McCanns get on here and other forums
Discussing the details of a case which are available to all is perfectly legal, as is discussing questions arising. It isn't abuse.
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Discussing the details of a case which are available to all is perfectly legal, as is discussing questions arising. It isn't abuse.
I'm not talking about discussing he case I'm talking about abuse. Calling them shit parents is abuse...saying they lied when there is no evidence is abuse
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I'm not talking about discussing he case I'm talking about abuse. Calling them shit parents is abuse...saying they lied when there is no evidence is abuse
It is.
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I'm not talking about discussing he case I'm talking about abuse. Calling them shit parents is abuse...saying they lied when there is no evidence is abuse
But there is evidence of their status as parents.
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But there is evidence of their status as parents.
The McCann children were never abused or abandoned.
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But there is evidence of their status as parents.
Insinuating day in and day out that the McCanns are hiding something, which is what happens on this forum, is certainly a form of abuse. It's what you people do oh so politely because your forum master doensn't want to be accused of libel so you can only tiptoe around the issue but it's still plain as the nose on your face what is going on here. When I said that IMO certain people on here lacked empathy I was accused of abusing them, so don't even try to suggest that the Mccanns are not regularly abused by members of this forum - it won't wash.
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But there is evidence of their status as parents.
so would it be acceptable on this forum for me to say amaral is a shit copper....I certainly think he is
and there is plenty of evidence to support that statement
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so would it be acceptable on this forum for me to say amaral is a shit copper....I certainly think he is
and there is plenty of evidence to support that statement
Certainly doesn't bother me,
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so would it be acceptable on this forum for me to say amaral is a shit copper....I certainly think he is
and there is plenty of evidence to support that statement
Ex.
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Ex.
Retired, subtle difference.
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the topic is is it cruel to use maddies name to talk about other missing/explolited children i still think it is they have their own names and circumstances
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the topic is is it cruel to use maddies name to talk about other missing/explolited children i still think it is they have their own names and circumstances
I dont think its cruel at all
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I dont think its cruel at all
Let's ask Madeleine herself.
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so would it be acceptable on this forum for me to say amaral is a shit copper....I certainly think he is
and there is plenty of evidence to support that statement
As far as I am concerned, chief, you can say what you like it ain't no skin off my nose.
But then I would have thought the post offended your own high standards of precision and grammar.
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As far as I am concerned, chief, you can say what you like it ain't no skin off my nose.
But then I would have thought the post offended your own high standards of precision and grammar.
it isnt about what concerns you
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the topic is is it cruel to use maddies name to talk about other missing/explolited children i still think it is they have their own names and circumstances
Who is up for criticism here?
By implication the alleged 'cruelty' stems from ...
- Madeleine McCann
- Madeleine McCann's parents
The alleged 'cruelty' stems from those who make the comparisons and certainly not the victims of the crime.
Wouldn't it be a good idea to revert to to a reasonable standard of discussion on the forum and desist from turning every thread into absolute criticism of individuals labouring under a burden which would bring most people to their knees.
We are members of a JUSTICE forum. Which sometimes seems more intent on heaping more injustice on named individuals than is reasonably proper.
Individuals cannot control a news agenda; ask Shining about that.
Did anyone stop to think about the cruelty visited upon Madeleine McCann's family by the comparison made with Isabel Celis whose remains have been found discarded somewhere in a desert?
It really is way beyond time that some individuals particularly those who are members of a forum dedicated to justice, examine their consciences prior to hitting their keyboards ... in my opinion.
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Who is up for criticism here?
By implication the alleged 'cruelty' stems from ...
- Madeleine McCann
- Madeleine McCann's parents
The alleged 'cruelty' stems from those who make the comparisons and certainly not the victims of the crime.
Wouldn't it be a good idea to revert to to a reasonable standard of discussion on the forum and desist from turning every thread into absolute criticism of individuals labouring under a burden which would bring most people to their knees.
We are members of a JUSTICE forum. Which sometimes seems more intent on heaping more injustice on named individuals than is reasonably proper.
Individuals cannot control a news agenda; ask Shining about that.
Did anyone stop to think about the cruelty visited upon Madeleine McCann's family by the comparison made with Isabel Celis whose remains have been found discarded somewhere in a desert?
It really is way beyond time that some individuals particularly those who are members of a forum dedicated to justice, examine their consciences prior to hitting their keyboards ... in my opinion.
I 100% agree.
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Who is up for criticism here?
By implication the alleged 'cruelty' stems from ...
- Madeleine McCann
- Madeleine McCann's parents
The alleged 'cruelty' stems from those who make the comparisons and certainly not the victims of the crime.
Wouldn't it be a good idea to revert to to a reasonable standard of discussion on the forum and desist from turning every thread into absolute criticism of individuals labouring under a burden which would bring most people to their knees.
We are members of a JUSTICE forum. Which sometimes seems more intent on heaping more injustice on named individuals than is reasonably proper.
Individuals cannot control a news agenda; ask Shining about that.
Did anyone stop to think about the cruelty visited upon Madeleine McCann's family by the comparison made with Isabel Celis whose remains have been found discarded somewhere in a desert?
It really is way beyond time that some individuals particularly those who are members of a forum dedicated to justice, examine their consciences prior to hitting their keyboards ... in my opinion.
Only 2 people know if it is injustice.
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Only 2 people know if it is injustice.
So in the meantime keep calm and carry on kicking them cos there's always a chance they're guilty!
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This is all off topic so back to topic please.
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Who is up for criticism here?
By implication the alleged 'cruelty' stems from ...
- Madeleine McCann
- Madeleine McCann's parents
The alleged 'cruelty' stems from those who make the comparisons and certainly not the victims of the crime.
Wouldn't it be a good idea to revert to to a reasonable standard of discussion on the forum and desist from turning every thread into absolute criticism of individuals labouring under a burden which would bring most people to their knees.
We are members of a JUSTICE forum. Which sometimes seems more intent on heaping more injustice on named individuals than is reasonably proper.
Individuals cannot control a news agenda; ask Shining about that.
Did anyone stop to think about the cruelty visited upon Madeleine McCann's family by the comparison made with Isabel Celis whose remains have been found discarded somewhere in a desert?
It really is way beyond time that some individuals particularly those who are members of a forum dedicated to justice, examine their consciences prior to hitting their keyboards ... in my opinion.
Well said.
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Who is up for criticism here?
By implication the alleged 'cruelty' stems from ...
- Madeleine McCann
- Madeleine McCann's parents
The alleged 'cruelty' stems from those who make the comparisons and certainly not the victims of the crime.
Wouldn't it be a good idea to revert to to a reasonable standard of discussion on the forum and desist from turning every thread into absolute criticism of individuals labouring under a burden which would bring most people to their knees.
We are members of a JUSTICE forum. Which sometimes seems more intent on heaping more injustice on named individuals than is reasonably proper.
Individuals cannot control a news agenda; ask Shining about that.
Did anyone stop to think about the cruelty visited upon Madeleine McCann's family by the comparison made with Isabel Celis whose remains have been found discarded somewhere in a desert?
It really is way beyond time that some individuals particularly those who are members of a forum dedicated to justice, examine their consciences prior to hitting their keyboards ... in my opinion.
I don't think suppressing such discussion adds anything to the search for justice re Madeleine. I have been monitoring the news and there is quite clearly an uptick in stories that are being related to the McCanns. Last night and tonight Channel 5 aired/airs a two part documentary about Karen Matthews, The Mother's story, in which a number of experts opined. India Lake, body language 'expert' analysed Matthews, then Dr Elizabeth Yardley and journalist Amanda Platell equated this to Kate McCann's body language.
I missed the programme and the link https://www.my5.tv/shannon-matthews-the-mothers-story/season-1/shannon-matthews-the-mothers-story does not work for me, presumably because I am not in the UK.
I am critical of the use of body language in general, given that research indicates it is hardly the best of tools. It appears one of the linking items was Karen's use of a teddy bear, which she could not name because the child had never seen it.
The media appears to be using the 10th to crank out anything that can be related to Madeleine McCann. The question is, will the current flurry of stories die off after 3 May 2017. I can't remember a peak last year, and there was almost no-one on the ground. That's what I would predict for the 11th, 12th, 13th etc.
This may be the storm before the calm, which would then be an opportunity for the McCanns to get the twins life as near normal as possible.
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As long as their are people slagging the McCanns off on the net the twins will be affected
As long as Madeleine is missing, the twins will be affected.
As long as they retain their names, the twins will be affected.
As long as the McCanns remain in the limelight, the twins will be affected.
Twitter and Facebook are options. I get along fine without them.
Then it is up to the twins whether they start to think for themselves and do their own research, or whether their main source of information is what their parents choose to tell them.
And the above is why I chose 'as near normal as possible'. Even if Madeleine turned up alive and well today, the twins would not get total normality back.
They have become celebrities in their own right, though that was not a choice of their own making. Ditto Madeleine.
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And Madeleine needs to be kept in the public eye. A bit of a catch 22.