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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: Robittybob1 on April 27, 2017, 09:54:45 AM
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"Key witness in the Madeleine McCann case, Jeremy Wilkins, leaves his home in Willesden, North West London to take his daughter to nursery on September 18th, 2007. TV producer Jeremy Wilkins was on holiday in Praia da Luz, Portugal in May and spoke to Gerry McCann during the hour when Madeleine went missing. Mr Wilkins said he found Mr McCann calm and unflustered during a 15-minute conversation which took place while Mr McCann was on his way back to the resort's tapas restaurant after checking on his three children. Mr Wilkins has repeatedly told police he is convinced of the McCanns' innocence."
https://www.spokeo.com/Jeremy-Wilkin/Famous-Actor/Sep+17+2007+Other+Photos+Album#68425821
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Some of the information here looks surprisingly suspect.
"JEREMY WILKIN RESULTS JEREMY WILKIN
British actor
Jeremy Wilkin
Jeremy Wilkin is a British actor, possibly best known for his contributions to the television productions of Gerry Anderson. Born in Byfleet, Surrey, Wilkin emigrated to Toronto, Canada after completing his studies at the Royal Academy of Dramatic Art. He had previously trained as a doctor.
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Biography
Jeremy Wilkin's personal information overview.
BIRTHDAY
06 June 1930
HOME TOWN
Byfleet
I doubt if he was born in 1930 That would make him 87 years old!
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Fix the "S" on your keyboard!
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Some of the phrases used in the caption are also used in this article.
"Madeleine: The vital witness who could help clear the McCann's name
Last updated at 12:14 17 September 2007
A witness who could blow the police case apart was identified for the first time.
TV producer Jeremy Wilkins, on holiday in Praia da Luz with his partner and baby son, spoke to Gerry McCann during the hour when Madeleine went missing.
The cardiologist was on his way back to the resort's tapas restaurant after checking on his three children.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-482157/Madeleine-The-vital-witness-help-clear-McCanns-name.html#ixzz4fRu1UfWL
It is strange how the article does not mention the daughter being on holiday with the Wilkins' family.
Fix the "S" on your keyboard!
Are you referring to the lack of the "s" in his name? OK so the text is referring to another actor but the photos on the site are definitely of Jeremy Wilkins and a girl that is said to be his daughter.
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Sure... but 86 year-old Jeremy Wilkin is a totally different person...
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=jeremy+wilkin&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj1y-S-yMTTAhVmBMAKHYSUBpAQ_AUIBygC&biw=1431&bih=913&dpr=1 (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=jeremy+wilkin&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj1y-S-yMTTAhVmBMAKHYSUBpAQ_AUIBygC&biw=1431&bih=913&dpr=1)
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I think this article is the source of the text for the caption. Claim that it is "The News of the World" on this website http://newsoutlines.blogspot.co.nz/2007/09/man-who-could-clear-mccanns.html
"Man who could clear McCanns
9/16/2007 Posted by Winnower
Man who could clear McCanns
Secret Maddie Witness; Exclusive
Dominic Herbert & Ross Hall
16 September 2007
The News of the World
TV PRODUCER'S GIVEN PORTUGUESE COPS SHOCK EVIDENCE
TODAY we reveal the secret witness whose bombshell testimony could clear the McCanns.
Pictured here for the first time, Jeremy Wilkins' evidence blows holes in the police theory that Gerry and Kate killed four-year-old Madeleine.
Wilkins-seen outside his north west London home-was the man heart surgeon Gerry McCann, 38, spoke with for up to 15 minutes outside the holiday apartments moments after checking on his children for the last time.
What the TV producer witnessed makes the statement he gave to police a key piece of evidence in the event of a trial.
We can reveal Wilkins constantly INSISTED to Portuguese detectives that Gerry was totally calm and unflustered as they chatted-far removed from the behaviour that might be expected of a man covering up the death of his daughter.
But another part of Wilkins' evidence ironically helped shift the police focus AWAY from their original kidnap theory.
For the 36-year-old holidaymaker turned the investigation on its head when he revealed a VITAL FLAW in the statement given by key witness, Jane Tanner, who claims she saw a man carrying a child away from the apartment complex.
Based on what he has said, last night Portuguese sources confirmed that police have doubts about Miss Tanner's evidence.
One said: "Her account has raised more questions than answers. She is high on the list of people we need to speak to again."
Yesterday Wilkins was refusing to expand on what he has told police. His girlfriend Bridget O'Donnell-who was in Praia da Luz with the producer and their eight-month-old son-said: "We have decided it's not appropriate to talk about what happened."
But Wilkins-whose production company Zig Zag has made a string of controversial TV programmes-is likely to be re-interviewed as Portuguese detectives desperately try to build a case against the McCanns.
Some of the seven diners who were at the tapas restaurant with the couple on May 3 have already travelled back to Portugal once before to go over events leading to Madeleine's disappearance. Next time they may be quizzed in the UK by British police assisting their EU counterparts on the inquiry. Wilkins' crucial encounter with Gerry took place at 9.10pm on the main street outside the apartments next to the McCanns'-and at the entrance to a narrow alleyway that runs past the back of them.
Chatted
The two were both tennis fans and had played each other during the course of the holiday.
On the night Maddie disappeared Wilkins was taking his eight-month-old son for a walk.
When he bumped into Gerry the two men chatted for up to 15 minutes before the surgeon returned to the tapas bar. It was during this period of time that Tanner, 37, another member of the McCanns' party, said she WALKED PAST the two men on her way back to her apartment to check on her youngsters.
She told police that she saw a dark-haired man, aged about 35, carrying a child who could have been Maddie's wrapped in a blanket at 9.15pm-when Gerry and Wilkins would still have been chatting.
But Wilkins, viewed by police as a completely independent witness, told cops he could not recall anyone walking past him. And in all the time he was there he saw NO MAN carrying a child.
The TV executive is convinced he would have seen Jane Tanner pass by.
He said: "It was a very narrow path and I think it would have been almost impossible for anyone to walk by without me noticing." And he also believes he would have seen the mystery man and child who would also have been just yards away.
Cops asked mum-of-two Tanner-on the holiday with with her partner Dr Russell O'Brien, 36-whether it was possible that the man and child she saw was Wilkins with his son.
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But a source told us: "She was adamant that it was not Jeremy Wilkins and his child. She is certain she saw someone else and stands by her account."
Gerry and Tanner returned to the restaurant separately shortly afterwards and it was at 10pm that Kate McCann went to check on the children and found Madeleine gone. Wilkins' importance in the inquiry has only been highlighted because police are troubled by possible inconsistencies in the McCann friends' statements, including discrepancies in the times various people recall arriving at the restaurant.
The Portuguese police believe the McCanns may have been involved in Madeleine's disappearance and think one may be covering up for the other.
Officers are probing an unlikely "three-hour window of opportunity" between 6pm and 9pm when they suspect Madeleine was killed in the apartment and her body hidden somewhere nearby. Forensic evidence gathered so far including DNA or body fluid samples is thought to be inconclusive.
Portuguese police say they could name more official suspects in the coming weeks. "
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Here is the source article. A "Daily Mail" article it seems
"++THE VITAL WITNESS ++
Daily Mail17 Sep 2007
A WITNESS who could blow the police case apart was identified for the first time yesterday.
TV producer Jeremy Wilkins, on holiday in Praia da Luz with his partner and baby son, spoke to Gerry McCann during the hour when Madeleine went missing. The cardiologist was on his way back to the resort’s tapas restaurant after checking on his three children.
Mr Wilkins said he found Mr McCann calm and unflustered during a 15minute conversation – which would be remarkable for a man supposedly involved in the death of his daughter.
Mr Wilkins, 36, from North-west London, has repeatedly told police he is convinced of the McCanns’ innocence. A friend said: ‘He believes they are a decent family caught up in an unimaginable nightmare. He came back from holiday totally shell-shocked. He played tennis with Gerry the day before Madeleine disappeared.’
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The article is Dated 17th Sept 2007 yet the photos are claimed to have been taken on the 18th Sept 2007. Bit strange that the dates are out.
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The article is Dated 17th Sept 2007 yet the photos are claimed to have been taken on the 18th Sept 2007. Bit strange that the dates are out.
The earliest date of this quote was the 16th Sept. OK only a couple of days out.
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"Key witness in the Madeleine McCann case, Jeremy Wilkins, leaves his home in Willesden, North West London to take his daughter to nursery on September 18th, 2007. TV producer Jeremy Wilkins was on holiday in Praia da Luz, Portugal in May and spoke to Gerry McCann during the hour when Madeleine went missing. Mr Wilkins said he found Mr McCann calm and unflustered during a 15-minute conversation which took place while Mr McCann was on his way back to the resort's tapas restaurant after checking on his three children. Mr Wilkins has repeatedly told police he is convinced of the McCanns' innocence."
https://www.spokeo.com/Jeremy-Wilkin/Famous-Actor/Sep+17+2007+Other+Photos+Album#68425821
How does Jeremy know when Madeleine went missing? Did Gerry tell Jez he had seen his three kids? How would Jez know Gerry is innocent unless he knew when the event happened? How would he know if Gerry did the deed after they spoke rather than before? It doesn't make sense to me.
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"Key witness in the Madeleine McCann case, Jeremy Wilkins, leaves his home in Willesden, North West London to take his daughter to nursery on September 18th, 2007. TV producer Jeremy Wilkins was on holiday in Praia da Luz, Portugal in May and spoke to Gerry McCann during the hour when Madeleine went missing. Mr Wilkins said he found Mr McCann calm and unflustered during a 15-minute conversation which took place while Mr McCann was on his way back to the resort's tapas restaurant after checking on his three children. Mr Wilkins has repeatedly told police he is convinced of the McCanns' innocence."
https://www.spokeo.com/Jeremy-Wilkin/Famous-Actor/Sep+17+2007+Other+Photos+Album#68425821
Who took the photos?
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How does Jeremy know when Madeleine went missing? Did Gerry tell Jez he had seen his three kids? How would Jez know Gerry is innocent unless he knew when the event happened? How would he know if Gerry did the deed after they spoke rather than before? It doesn't make sense to me.
It's a newspaper article. We have Wilkins statements and nowhere does he repeatedly tell police Gerry was innocent.
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It's a newspaper article. We have Wilkins statements and nowhere does he repeatedly tell police Gerry was innocent.
There are such things as phone calls, that are never recorded. There are private conversations that are not recorded. It could only be a claim from Jez himself that "he repeatedly told police Gerry was innocent", even though this becomes the only record of it.
It is certainly not in an official statement.
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There are such things as phone calls, that are never recorded. There are private conversations that are not recorded. It could only be a claim from Jez himself that "he repeatedly told police Gerry was innocent", even though this becomes the only record of it.
It is certainly not in an official statement.
...and that applies to both sides.
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...and that applies to both sides.
I appreciate there can be both sides to an argument, but what applies to both sides? I don't get what you are meaning sorry.
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I appreciate there can be both sides to an argument, but what applies to both sides? I don't get what you are meaning sorry.
Unrecorded discussions which support a position.
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Unrecorded discussions which support a position.
If Joe Blogs was being spoken to and two different reporters ended up reporting Joe as saying two totally opposing positions that in my opinion would raise the alarm bells.
So who could possibly know that "Jez has repeatedly told the police that Gerry is innocent"? Was it his wife? She could be a party hearing these repeated conversations. Could it be Jez himself making that claim? It is hardly likely to be the police making that statement.
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If Joe Blogs was being spoken to and two different reporters ended up reporting Joe as saying two totally opposing positions that in my opinion would raise the alarm bells.
So who could possibly know that "Jez has repeatedly told the police that Gerry is innocent"? Was it his wife? She could be a party hearing these repeated conversations. Could it be Jez himself making that claim? It is hardly likely to be the police making that statement.
Has no one got a moment to comment on this thread?
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If Joe Blogs was being spoken to and two different reporters ended up reporting Joe as saying two totally opposing positions that in my opinion would raise the alarm bells.
So who could possibly know that "Jez has repeatedly told the police that Gerry is innocent"? Was it his wife? She could be a party hearing these repeated conversations. Could it be Jez himself making that claim? It is hardly likely to be the police making that statement.
What is clear is that Jes Wilkins didn't say it to any newspaper. If someone else had said it they would have been named. It seems to be a random statement with no source whatsoever being quoted.
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What is clear is that Jes Wilkins didn't say it to any newspaper. If someone else had said it they would have been named. It seems to be a random statement with no source whatsoever being quoted.
So do you think any part of it is truth, or is it all propaganda?
"Key witness in the Madeleine McCann case, Jeremy Wilkins, leaves his home in Willesden, North West London to take his daughter to nursery on September 18th, 2007." Date is wrong, but address could be correct.
"TV producer Jeremy Wilkins was on holiday in Praia da Luz, Portugal in May and spoke to Gerry McCann during the hour when Madeleine went missing." If they had used the word found missing I'd say that was true. Otherwise how does the author know when Madeleine went missing.
"Mr Wilkins said he found Mr McCann calm and unflustered during a 15-minute conversation which took place while Mr McCann was on his way back to the resort's tapas restaurant after checking on his three children." Can't be confirmed.
"Mr Wilkins has repeatedly told police he is convinced of the McCanns' innocence." Appears to be a self promoting statement.
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The truth;
Yesterday Wilkins was refusing to expand on what he has told police. His girlfriend Bridget O'Donnell-who was in Praia da Luz with the producer and their eight-month-old son-said: "We have decided it's not appropriate to talk about what happened."
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The truth;
Yesterday Wilkins was refusing to expand on what he has told police. His girlfriend Bridget O'Donnell-who was in Praia da Luz with the producer and their eight-month-old son-said: "We have decided it's not appropriate to talk about what happened."
So what about their daughter. wasn't she there too?
"Bridget O'Donnell :My months with Madeleine" was published Friday 14 December 2007 11.54 GMT
In a separate article Joana Morais writes:
"by Joana Morais 9 years ago
Previously on the Mccann's case:"Wilkins was refusing to expand on what he has told police. His girlfriend Bridget O'Donnell —who was in Praia da Luz with the producer and their eight-month-old son—said: "We have decided it's not appropriate to talk about what happened."
Wilkins' pal added: "He came back from the holiday totally shell-shocked. He was part of a British crowd which included the McCanns who became friends as they holidayed in Portugal."
Why would he be shell shocked?
Yet in an article By Dominic Herbert & Ross Hall on the 16 September 2007 the same words are used. (source http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id414.htm)
From the PJ files "Jeremy and Bridget have been married for several years and have two children, XXXX (F) 3 yrs and XXXX (M) 8 months."
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Bridget makes it clear here "It was a welcome spring break, a chance to relax at a child-friendly resort in Portugal. Soon Bridget O’Donnell and her partner were making friends with another holidaying family while their three-year-old daughters played together. But then Madeleine McCann went missing and everyone was sucked into a nightmare." http://truthofthelie.com/2007/12/my-months-with-madeleine/
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Has no one got a moment to comment on this thread?
I am very uneasy about discussing a witness in this case in the manner in which it is being done.
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I am very uneasy about discussing a witness in this case in the manner in which it is being done.
Who wrote the caption?
"Key witness in the Madeleine McCann case, Jeremy Wilkins, leaves his home in Willesden, North West London to take his daughter to nursery on September 18th, 2007. TV producer Jeremy Wilkins was on holiday in Praia da Luz, Portugal in May and spoke to Gerry McCann during the hour when Madeleine went missing. Mr Wilkins said he found Mr McCann calm and unflustered during a 15-minute conversation which took place while Mr McCann was on his way back to the resort's tapas restaurant after checking on his three children. Mr Wilkins has repeatedly told police he is convinced of the McCanns' innocence.?
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So who is this friend of Jez whom to Jez has revealed so much? It is quoted as "A friend said: "He believes they are a decent family caught up in an unimaginable nightmare."
"He came back from holiday totally shell-shocked. He played tennis with Gerry the day before Madeleine disappeared."" Refer to http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-482157/Madeleine-The-vital-witness-help-clear-McCanns-name.html#ixzz4fgLoPJTj
What would be enough to make a guy to be in an "unimaginable nightmare", and to be "totally shell-shocked". How would you explain Jez' reaction?
From his statements in the PJ file there is nothing that would result in the feeling of devastation IMO.
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So who is this friend of Jez whom to Jez has revealed so much? It is quoted as "A friend said: "He believes they are a decent family caught up in an unimaginable nightmare."
"He came back from holiday totally shell-shocked. He played tennis with Gerry the day before Madeleine disappeared."" Refer to http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-482157/Madeleine-The-vital-witness-help-clear-McCanns-name.html#ixzz4fgLoPJTj
What would be enough to make a guy to be in an "unimaginable nightmare", and to be "totally shell-shocked". How would you explain Jez' reaction?
From his statements in the PJ file there is nothing that would result in the feeling of devastation IMO.
I can't prove it but when anonymous 'friends' are quoting I think they may or may not exist. The description of Jes' reaction therefore may or may not be true. What is true is that he played tennis with Gerry the same day that Madeleine disappeared, so the 'friend' wasn't all that well-informed.
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I can't prove it but when anonymous 'friends' are quoting I think they may or may not exist. The description of Jes' reaction therefore may or may not be true. What is true is that he played tennis with Gerry the same day that Madeleine disappeared, so the 'friend' wasn't all that well-informed.
I wonder if the expression the day before covers the actual situation that you describe too. Jez, I believe, was Jewish and their day finishes at sunset.
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"Key witness in the Madeleine McCann case, Jeremy Wilkins, leaves his home in Willesden, North West London to take his daughter to nursery on September 18th, 2007. TV producer Jeremy Wilkins was on holiday in Praia da Luz, Portugal in May and spoke to Gerry McCann during the hour when Madeleine went missing. Mr Wilkins said he found Mr McCann calm and unflustered during a 15-minute conversation which took place while Mr McCann was on his way back to the resort's tapas restaurant after checking on his three children. Mr Wilkins has repeatedly told police he is convinced of the McCanns' innocence."
https://www.spokeo.com/Jeremy-Wilkin/Famous-Actor/Sep+17+2007+Other+Photos+Album#68425821
Key witness in the Madeleine McCann case, Jeremy Wilkins, leaves his home in Willesden, North West London to take his daughter to nursery on September 18th, 2007. TV producer Jeremy Wilkins was on holiday in Praia da Luz, Portugal in May and spoke to Gerry McCann during the hour when Madeleine went missing. Mr Wilkins said he found Mr McCann calm and unflustered during a 15-minute conversation which took place while Mr McCann was on his way back to the resort's tapas restaurant after checking on his three children. Mr Wilkins has repeatedly told police he is convinced of the McCanns' innocence.
OK the text is 100% the same but the photos are different to what I remember. Each photo has been cropped to take the other person out of the photo.
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This is the picture that appeared in the papers (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/12_02/WitnessES1412_228x324.jpg)
this is now cropped down to this. (https://drwxmmmu6vj3l.cloudfront.net/195-265/wenn_2633865.jpg?Policy=eyJTdGF0ZW1lbnQiOlt7IlJlc291cmNlIjoiaHR0cCo6Ly9kcnd4bW1tdTZ2ajNsLmNsb3VkZnJvbnQubmV0LzE5NS0yNjUvd2Vubl8yNjMzODY1LmpwZyIsIkNvbmRpdGlvbiI6eyJEYXRlTGVzc1RoYW4iOnsiQVdTOkVwb2NoVGltZSI6MTUxOTY3MzYzNH19fV19&Signature=XHbIHO-crfxaZMqi0b9CoSdye9AvHqMVFA4kCledngKri-yn4yV6R5mG4OJNdsJhIB4A00hG2YIB1PIj5T3-0vhdtl7oPZpZOmgV1MQNrNcvJ99z1~2iFgL0~P-sxRckaw1Hgnlrjbb2~sog7uByT7c6tffGopI1etnPbo8izvOCAN4SC~mxewB-KrNaI7195oYWPZWEIkh1Qk[Name removed]iFqgRK-9w3GVp8koPyaRavbS5CPVYBfI62~wlYKar3XXBLMSVmuuwwstTalvsZchbJOTMpfraojlORiYQ8GnHQjbUEuizbNYAATrVS~USeEXPqzxl9A3c6HwP9imyqJiUGdRfQ__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAJPGP5DG6F7IFJZHA)
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Is this "friend" a friend of Jeremy Wilkins or a friend of the McCanns. Does it make it clear in the article, as it sounds like Clarence Mitchell's words to me.
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Is this "friend" a friend of Jeremy Wilkins or a friend of the McCanns. Does it make it clear in the article, as it sounds like Clarence Mitchell's words to me.
We have no way of knowing who it was. But I would think it is unlikely to be Clarence Mitchell.
"Mr Wilkins, 36, from North-west London, has repeatedly told police he is convinced of the McCanns’ innocence. A friend said: ‘He believes they are a decent family caught up in an unimaginable nightmare. He came back from holiday totally shell-shocked. He played tennis with Gerry the day before Madeleine disappeared.’
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Who did the waiter see at midnight; David, Matthew or Russell? It certainly wasn't Gerry McCann. On the other hand the whole article could have been made up. The only true fact is that Jes spoke to Gerry. In my opinion that is why the article was written.
Waiters at the Paraiso beach restaurant who saw Madeleine just hours before she vanished, told the Daily Mirror Mr McCann was a "devoted" father as he bounced the youngster up and down on his shoulders.
However, later they saw a different side to Gerry McCann. He appeared disorientated, isolated and afraid. One waiter said "The next time I saw him was about midnight and it couldn't have been more different."
"I went out for a cigarette and I saw a man alone. He was desperate. He was crying and just screaming out her name over and over again. He was completely out of it."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-482157/Madeleine-The-vital-witness-help-clear-McCanns-name.html#ixzz4fgLoPJTj
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"Waiters at the Paraiso beach restaurant who saw Madeleine just hours before she vanished, told the Daily Mirror Mr McCann was a "devoted" father as he bounced the youngster up and down on his shoulders."
That sounds a bit of BS for Madeleine and the McCanns did not go to the Paraiso beach restaurant that day IIRC.
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"Waiters at the Paraiso beach restaurant who saw Madeleine just hours before she vanished, told the Daily Mirror Mr McCann was a "devoted" father as he bounced the youngster up and down on his shoulders."
That sounds a bit of BS for Madeleine and the McCanns did not go to the Paraiso beach restaurant that day IIRC.
This is why IMO - a lot of those who said they saw maddie on the 3rd could be wrong.
It could have been -one of the other tapas children.
The one on the trancefare bus looked very similar to maddie.
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This is why IMO - a lot of those who said they saw maddie on the 3rd could be wrong.
It could have been -one of the other tapas children.
The one on the trancefare bus looked very similar to maddie.
It most certainly could, unless Madeleine was well known to that person - a lot of little girls all dressed in pink, as Jez's wife more or less said
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It most certainly could, unless Madeleine was well known to that person - a lot of little girls all dressed in pink, as Jez's wife more or less said
In my opinion they saw either Russell or David with their eldest child. The other children were too young. Russell was said to have carried his daughter on his shoulders that afternoon. The article was correct that there were two children in high chairs, but they weren't the McCann twins. There were three small children aged 11 months, 18 months and 19 months. It looks like the restaurant only had two high chairs though.
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In my opinion they saw either Russell or David with their eldest child. The other children were too young. Russell was said to have carried his daughter on his shoulders that afternoon. The article was correct that there were two children in high chairs, but they weren't the McCann twins. There were three small children aged 11 months, 18 months and 19 months. It looks like the restaurant only had two high chairs though.
David likes tossing his kids around, called it twizzing IIRC.
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David likes tossing his kids around, called it twizzing IIRC.
You pick up the child from behind under their armpits, then turn round and round on the spot. That's twizzing. A variation is holding them by one arm and one leg.
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You pick up the child from behind under their armpits, then turn round and round on the spot. That's twizzing. A variation is holding them by one arm and one leg.
We used to have it done to us as kids. A lot of fun, but it can result in the occasional bump.
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We used to have it done to us as kids. A lot of fun, but it can result in the occasional bump.
We called it a leg and a wing.
Aww childhood memories something it seems - maddie will never have imo
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We called it a leg and a wing.
Aww childhood memories something it seems - maddie will never have imo
Sweet 16 at her next birthday.
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Sweet 16 at her next birthday.
Not if Maddie's birthdays - stopped at 3.
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Not if Maddie's birthdays - stopped at 3.
Some of us go on hoping.
But aren't we all getting a bit Off Topic here? Sorry, sorry, for my contribution to that.