Jon Corner wasted no time;
By this time our friend Jon Corner, a creative director in media production in Liverpool, was circulating photographs and video footage of Madeleine to the police, Interpol and broadcasting and newspaper news desks.
[Madeleine]
The time Kate is writing about is while they were waiting to be picked up and taken to the Police Station for interviewing on 4th May.
Jon Corner wasted no time;So it could then be confirmed if it was Jon Corner who sent that particular photo in to Sky News.
By this time our friend Jon Corner, a creative director in media production in Liverpool, was circulating photographs and video footage of Madeleine to the police, Interpol and broadcasting and newspaper news desks.
[Madeleine]
The time Kate is writing about is while they were waiting to be picked up and taken to the Police Station for interviewing on 4th May.
Thanks for that. This all sounds perfectly reasonable to me.But do you accept that as proof?
But do you accept that as proof?
Jon Corner comes over to PDL and films the McCanns https://youtu.be/N47AUYhD4Dg
No, I don't accept it as proof. And anyway, who sent the photo isn't really important.What I had proposed previously is that that photo (now seen as used in the Sky News program that morning) is not actually Madeleine McCann but someone else.
I am more interested in the immediate reaction of The Press.
The Leveson inquiry witness statement confirms the situation:That is a good bit of work qwerty I would never have known to look into document. Paragraph 8 is also significant in that it was only the BBC that confirmed that the information given to them by Jon Corner was correct. Now since the photo was shown on Sky News that could still be a possible clue that it was not the correct photo.
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20140122145147/http:/www.levesoninquiry.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Witness-Statement-of-Gerry-McCann.pdf
See Para 7.
Hearing statement:
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20140122145147/http:/www.levesoninquiry.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Transcript-of-Afternoon-Hearing-23-November-20111.txt
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This is the video where the image is sourced https://youtu.be/epWpdQZGE9o?t=40I have had two people analyse this video section from which the Sky News "Missing girl" photo originates and in their opinion there is nothing to indicate that the video is actually of Madeleine McCann (other than the coloboma on the right eye) or that is was filmed in any location associated with the McCanns. Please have a look at it and see if you can prove them wrong.
I have had two people analyse this video section from which the Sky News "Missing girl" photo originates and in their opinion there is nothing to indicate that the video is actually of Madeleine McCann (other than the coloboma on the right eye) or that is was filmed in any location associated with the McCanns. Please have a look at it and see if you can prove them wrong.
The link shows McCann home videos. What an I supposed to be looking at?YouTube videos like that are compilations by other people using videos they have saved from various sources. If the channel holder was "Gerry McCann" then I might think it was Gerry who linked up a series of his home videos but here we have an owner we don't know. There is no evidential proof gained from reading the title of the YT video. Ignore the title.
YouTube videos like that are compilations by other people using videos they have saved from various sources. If the channel holder was "Gerry McCann" then I might think it was Gerry who linked up a series of his home videos but here we have an owner we don't know. There is no evidential proof gained from reading the title of the YT video. Ignore the title.Madeleine's image and Madeleine's name have been appropriated by some unsavoury characters in the past ... it does not wipe out that the image and the name they have stolen are Madeleine.
That video was uploaded by AwesomeRandomnessGirl5 and looking at her channel she has no other videos re the McCann case so IMO she wouldn't have access to the original home videos produced.
The section in question starts https://youtu.be/epWpdQZGE9o?t=40 and finishes https://youtu.be/epWpdQZGE9o?t=48 (8 second clip)
Is there anything in that 8 second movie that makes you certain you are looking at Madeleine McCann?
Madeleine's image and Madeleine's name have been appropriated by some unsavoury characters in the past ... it does not wipe out that the image and the name they have stolen are Madeleine.I'm not accusing the channel owner of doing anything illegal. It is just great that someone has saved the same section of footage that may have been sent to Sky News on the 4th.
I really fail to see where you are coming from following this line.
I'm not accusing the channel owner of doing anything illegal. It is just great that someone has saved the same section of footage that may have been sent to Sky News on the 4th.
When you look particularly at that 8 second clip where there is a girl is dressed in what looks like an American themed costume what is there that makes you think that girl is Madeleine McCann?
I'm not accusing the channel owner of doing anything illegal. It is just great that someone has saved the same section of footage that may have been sent to Sky News on the 4th.
When you look particularly at that 8 second clip where there is a girl is dressed in what looks like an American themed costume what is there that makes you think that girl is Madeleine McCann?
Other than the fact she looks like Madeleine - her ears & her nose.One thing I have note is the video clips all have SN on one side and 7 on the other. Is that Sky News channel 7?
Well that fuller photo doesn't come from the video clip, but it looks like the same girl wearing the same costume.(http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/sitebuilderpictures/zzmaddiepic33.jpg)You've lost me Robitty. Is that the image? I think that is a Disney Snow White costume she is wearing and I've never seen anyone questioning that it is an image of Madeleine.
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id17.htm
One thing I have note is the video clips all have SN on one side and 7 on the other. Is that Sky News channel 7? Well that fuller photo doesn't come from the video clip, but it looks like the same girl wearing the same costume.I don't know why it is important to you, Robitty. That is most definitely a still taken from the video ... check out the matching background. Play it back and watch the position of the legs in the white trousers in the background ... I think there is a clumsy edit there obliterating the screen shot frame or you would have been able to see the match.
We still have no proof that Gerry sent all these pictures to Pamalam to put them on her website.
We still have no proof that is Madeleine McCann.
I don't know why it is important to you, Robitty. That is most definitely a still taken from the video ... check out the matching background. Play it back and watch the position of the legs in the white trousers in the background ... I think there is a clumsy edit there obliterating the screen shot frame or you would have been able to see the match.It can't be a still from that video, but maybe from the original, but that still doesn't prove it was Madeleine McCann.
It can't be a still from that video, but maybe from the original, but that still doesn't prove it was Madeleine McCann.
Well that does set me back a little. It would depend on their motive. It has similarities to the photo used on the cover of Kates' book too.(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2016/05/04/Madeleine-McCann-website-NEWS-large_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqGEx6xlluU5ONe8Q7mObB-Iv--ItKZvkLCoZxHaGPmPE.JPG)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/04/madeleine-mccanns-parents-vow-there-will-always-be-hope-despite/
Madeleine's parents seem to think it is her ... will that convince you?
there were two costume pictures there. Does every one think they are the same person wearing the same costume?
1) With the head tilted down in the lower picture parts of her face are foreshortened. Especially her chin.Who would be doing the crying out? Jon Corner seems to have been the person who released the photos to Sky News, so they must have been in his collection of photos. The ones with the makeup, and the lying on her back and the lollipop one. All a bit suspect in some way. So is it possible he filed the wrong photo in the "Madeleine" file and the first picture wasn't Madeleine at all. That is what I'm believing at the moment. It was a mistake made by Jon Corner. The real Madeleine doesn't have a coloboma like the first photo does as far as I can tell.
2) The position of the camera alters too.
In the upper photo the camera is full square with Madeleines face.
In the lower photo the camera is looking down on Madeleine .... and this again gives a foreshortened view.
Furthermore the part of the body near the camera always looks bigger and the extremities smaller if the camera is too close
Have you ever taken a close up of yourself and the photo shows a great big nose ? Well that is the same phenomena.
Soz, Rob.
But both almost certainly the same child, who is Madeleine Mccann.
If they weren't Madeleine, but some other child masquerading as Madeleine, there would have been a huge outcry right from the start.
Don't you agree?
Who would be doing the crying out? Jon Corner seems to have been the person who released the photos to Sky News, so they must have been in his collection of photos. The ones with the makeup, and the lying on her back and the lollipop one. All a bit suspect in some way. So is it possible he filed the wrong photo in the "Madeleine" file and the first picture wasn't Madeleine at all. That is what I'm believing at the moment. It was a mistake made by Jon Corner. The real Madeleine doesn't have a coloboma like the first photo does as far as I can tell.
Do the McCanns actually describe Madeleine's coloboma?
The child in the video is, as Sadie pointed out, filmed with the camera/phone level with her face. Do you think the person filming her was standing, crouching or kneeling?There are different length versions of that video and so the person filming this couching, definitely not kneeling for the view is still from the front when she appears to walk forward.
There are different length versions of that video and so the person filming this couching, definitely not kneeling for the view is still from the front when she appears to walk forward.
If the person is crouching what is she looking at when she looks up?Can you see the reflection in her eyes? If they were crouching they may have stood up to move when she moves forward. I did notice she seems to be interacting with the person doing the filming. But none of those mannerisms appear in any of the other MM videos.
Can you see the reflection in her eyes? If they were crouching they may have stood up to move when she moves forward. I did notice she seems to be interacting with the person doing the filming. But none of those mannerisms appear in any of the other MM videos.
I was struck by the apparent lack of interaction.I was trying to find the longer version where she seems to vomit toward the person doing the filming.
I was trying to find the longer version where she seems to vomit toward the person doing the filming.
I've been looking for that too lol. I thought most little girls would smile and then start showing off in their pretty dress. I found her reaction puzzling, particularly the lip-biting, which can be a sign of anxiety.I watched a couple of times yesterday so it is on YT I'll find it again. I 'can't say for certain she vomits but something goes past the camera.