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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: misty on June 04, 2017, 06:16:20 PM

Title: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: misty on June 04, 2017, 06:16:20 PM
For the uninitiated, this year's BGT featured the Missing People Choir: Kate McCann is an ambassador for the Missing People Charity.
The choir gave 3 performances during the BGT series, reaching the final which aired live last night. During each song the choir performed, images of UK children still currently missing were featured for the theatre & TV audiences to view.
Is it significant that Madeleine's image was not featured in any of the shows? (Ben Needham's was)

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Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: stephen25000 on June 04, 2017, 06:43:19 PM
Did Kate McCann sing in the choir ?

It is the Missing Peoples Choir, not her exclusive charity.

I would think by now, people are aware that Madeleine is missing, along with Ben, of course.

Were other missing people referred to ?

Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: jassi on June 04, 2017, 06:49:11 PM
All sounds very mawkish, so glad I missed it .
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: misty on June 04, 2017, 06:49:46 PM
Did Kate McCann sing in the choir ?

It is the Missing Peoples Choir, not her exclusive charity.

I would think by now, people are aware that Madeleine is missing, along with Ben, of course.

Were other missing people referred to ?

No, Kate did not sing in the choir but neither did Kerry as far as I could see.
I realise the Charity Choir is not Kate's exclusive cause but it just struck me as odd that Madeleine wasn't featured in any of the 3 screenings. Several other missing children/people were featured, including Sandy Davidson & Claudia Lawrence.
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: stephen25000 on June 04, 2017, 06:52:15 PM
No, Kate did not sing in the choir but neither did Kerry as far as I could see.
I realise the Charity Choir is not Kate's exclusive cause but it just struck me as odd that Madeleine wasn't featured in any of the 3 screenings. Several other missing children/people were featured, including Sandy Davidson & Claudia Lawrence.

Well, I am glad other missing children were given some airtime.
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: misty on June 04, 2017, 06:52:30 PM
All sounds very mawkish, so glad I missed it .

I missed it too, the Champions League final took precedence in our home. I just picked up the absence of Madeleine's image from a Tweet & viewed the 3 performances online.
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: G-Unit on June 04, 2017, 06:58:24 PM
All sounds very mawkish, so glad I missed it .

I had it on because I wondered if Kate would turn up;

Although she has not been singing in the choir during the auditions, it has been said Mrs McCann may become more involved if they progress to the televised stages.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4178558/Kate-McCann-hopes-win-Britain-s-Got-Talent.html#ixzz4j3dQFNiF
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Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: John on June 04, 2017, 07:47:38 PM
For the uninitiated, this year's BGT featured the Missing People Choir: Kate McCann is an ambassador for the Missing People Charity.
The choir gave 3 performances during the BGT series, reaching the final which aired live last night. During each song the choir performed, images of UK children still currently missing were featured for the theatre & TV audiences to view.
Is it significant that Madeleine's image was not featured in any of the shows? (Ben Needham's was)

I was surprised the choir didn't get further than they did in the final, the voting public obviously weren't swayed by semantics.

As the most publicised missing child in the world it was ironic that the Missing People organisers felt that using Madeleine's image would be detrimental to their chances of success in the competition. 
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: ShiningInLuz on June 04, 2017, 07:51:56 PM
For the uninitiated, this year's BGT featured the Missing People Choir: Kate McCann is an ambassador for the Missing People Charity.
The choir gave 3 performances during the BGT series, reaching the final which aired live last night. During each song the choir performed, images of UK children still currently missing were featured for the theatre & TV audiences to view.
Is it significant that Madeleine's image was not featured in any of the shows? (Ben Needham's was)
May I enquire as to whether you considered that significant?

The other point I would like to enquire, if you would be so grateful, is whether you think they were good enough as a choir to reach the final?

I saw their first performance only.  I happened to think, based purely on ability, they were not good enough to progress from that.  I checked with my better half and got the same answer.

This had nowt to do with Kate or the worthiness of the Missing People organisation.  It was simply based on an assessment of talent.
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: barrier on June 04, 2017, 08:31:02 PM
Was BGT really the right platform,take the likes of Paul Potts,Susan Boyle who went on to fame and fortune were they really hoping to do that,why not go with some like of Gareth Malone to further it.
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: jassi on June 04, 2017, 08:34:12 PM
I've always assumed it was some sort of ill-advised publicity stunt - the sort of thing Gerry would think of as a 'good marketing ploy'
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: misty on June 04, 2017, 09:54:19 PM
May I enquire as to whether you considered that significant?

The other point I would like to enquire, if you would be so grateful, is whether you think they were good enough as a choir to reach the final?

I saw their first performance only.  I happened to think, based purely on ability, they were not good enough to progress from that.  I checked with my better half and got the same answer.

This had nowt to do with Kate or the worthiness of the Missing People organisation.  It was simply based on an assessment of talent.

I do think the absence of Madeleine's image was significant but no doubt the vast majority will disagree. Time will tell.
The choir achieved its objective by projecting images of missing loved ones to around 10 million people & made a few pounds for the charity in music downloads. Were they good enough? - based on the standard of acts which were voted through to the final, probably just about. From the little I have watched this year there seemed to be a dearth of true original talent. JMO.
For the record, the choir received just over 5% of the total votes cast.
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: ShiningInLuz on June 04, 2017, 10:13:30 PM
I do think the absence of Madeleine's image was significant but no doubt the vast majority will disagree. Time will tell.
The choir achieved its objective by projecting images of missing loved ones to around 10 million people & made a few pounds for the charity in music downloads. Were they good enough? - based on the standard of acts which were voted through to the final, probably just about. From the little I have watched this year there seemed to be a dearth of true original talent. JMO.
For the record, the choir received just over 5% of the total votes cast.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: G-Unit on June 04, 2017, 10:29:24 PM
I do think the absence of Madeleine's image was significant but no doubt the vast majority will disagree. Time will tell.
The choir achieved its objective by projecting images of missing loved ones to around 10 million people & made a few pounds for the charity in music downloads. Were they good enough? - based on the standard of acts which were voted through to the final, probably just about. From the little I have watched this year there seemed to be a dearth of true original talent. JMO.
For the record, the choir received just over 5% of the total votes cast.

In my opinion the high profile Madeleine campaign may be over.
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: misty on June 04, 2017, 10:47:51 PM
In my opinion the high profile Madeleine campaign may be over.

I agree with that, unless there is a major new development in the near future.
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: Alice Purjorick on June 04, 2017, 11:17:41 PM
For the uninitiated, this year's BGT featured the Missing People Choir: Kate McCann is an ambassador for the Missing People Charity.
The choir gave 3 performances during the BGT series, reaching the final which aired live last night. During each song the choir performed, images of UK children still currently missing were featured for the theatre & TV audiences to view.
Is it significant that Madeleine's image was not featured in any of the shows? (Ben Needham's was)


One could infer she has been accounted for.
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: misty on June 04, 2017, 11:21:54 PM
One could infer she has been accounted for.

That is my conclusion as I can't think of any other reason why Madeleine's image was not included.
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: G-Unit on June 04, 2017, 11:35:30 PM
That is my conclusion as I can't think of any other reason why Madeleine's image was not included.

It may be that her inclusion was seen as unhelpful.
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: Mr Gray on June 04, 2017, 11:36:31 PM
It may be that her inclusion was seen as unhelpful.

what an unkind thing to say...imo
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: misty on June 04, 2017, 11:39:20 PM
It may be that her inclusion was seen as unhelpful.

Do you consider Madeleine is less worthy than the other missing people?
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: sadie on June 05, 2017, 01:00:03 AM
For the uninitiated, this year's BGT featured the Missing People Choir: Kate McCann is an ambassador for the Missing People Charity.
The choir gave 3 performances during the BGT series, reaching the final which aired live last night. During each song the choir performed, images of UK children still currently missing were featured for the theatre & TV audiences to view.
Is it significant that Madeleine's image was not featured in any of the shows? (Ben Needham's was)

I noticed that too.

I also noticed that at one stage someone, I forget who, was in front of the camera blanking off some of the images
And I wondered why that happened ... was it an accident or was it deliberate ... by the directing staff, the camera man or by the person who actually blanked off some of the images?
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: G-Unit on June 05, 2017, 06:13:54 AM
Do you consider Madeleine is less worthy than the other missing people?

Not at all.
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: barrier on June 05, 2017, 07:04:28 AM
Do you consider Madeleine is less worthy than the other missing people?
Is it seen that the images were not representative unless it showed Madeleine,I didn't see  an image of Keith Bennett either.
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: barrier on June 05, 2017, 07:17:16 AM
I agree with that, unless there is a major new development in the near future.
I wonder how many times those words have been repeated over the last ten years.
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: jassi on June 05, 2017, 09:20:42 AM
In my opinion the high profile Madeleine campaign may be over.

As Liam said , "  I'm afraid to tell you there's no money left"
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: Miss Taken Identity on June 05, 2017, 05:50:31 PM
It may be that her inclusion was seen as unhelpful.


Yes like the Kate and Gerry show.

 What do they need money for ? if people are missing surley ten million a piece for each will cover a good investigation as if they disappeared in this country.. oh.. err. mm

If they are not chidren they can get in touch with police to get reunited if tht is what they want. SOME PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO BE FOUND.
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: Erngath on June 05, 2017, 06:06:44 PM

Yes like the Kate and Gerry show.

 What do they need money for ? if people are missing surley ten million a piece for each will cover a good investigation as if they disappeared in this country.. oh.. err. mm

If they are not chidren they can get in touch with police to get reunited if tht is what they want. SOME PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO BE FOUND.


"the Kate and Gerry show", how droll.

Equally there will be  people whom their families do not want to find them.
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: G-Unit on June 05, 2017, 07:16:10 PM

Yes like the Kate and Gerry show.

 What do they need money for ? if people are missing surley ten million a piece for each will cover a good investigation as if they disappeared in this country.. oh.. err. mm

If they are not chidren they can get in touch with police to get reunited if tht is what they want. SOME PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO BE FOUND.

The choir and the charity probably wanted to focus attention on all missing people. The media immediately headlined it as 'Kate's choir', which it wasn't. Perhaps the McCanns and the charity decided that leaving Madeleine out would stop those silly headlines.

MADDIE MUM'S BID TO WIN BGT Kate McCann’s Missing People Choir
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/2753198/kate-mccanns-missing-people-choir-brings-britains-got-talent-judges-to-tears-with-heartbreaking-secret-audition/
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: ShiningInLuz on June 05, 2017, 07:21:47 PM
The choir and the charity probably wanted to focus attention on all missing people. The media immediately headlined it as 'Kate's choir', which it wasn't. Perhaps the McCanns and the charity decided that leaving Madeleine out would stop those silly headlines.

MADDIE MUM'S BID TO WIN BGT Kate McCann’s Missing People Choir
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/2753198/kate-mccanns-missing-people-choir-brings-britains-got-talent-judges-to-tears-with-heartbreaking-secret-audition/
It's a reasonable interpretation.  IMO.  Allegedly.
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: Eleanor on June 05, 2017, 07:30:02 PM
It's a reasonable interpretation.  IMO.  Allegedly.

I'm glad you added Allegedly.  I'm not sure Opinions are good enough these days.
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: Erngath on June 05, 2017, 07:35:35 PM
I'm glad you added Allegedly.  I'm not sure Opinions are good enough these days.

It's "belt and braces" posting these days.
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: Robittybob1 on June 05, 2017, 08:39:53 PM
I'm glad you added Allegedly.  I'm not sure Opinions are good enough these days.
I was thinking the word allegedly isn't really good enough for you would then need to define who made that allegation.
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: Eleanor on June 05, 2017, 08:48:17 PM
I was thinking the word allegedly isn't really good enough for you would then need to define who made that allegation.

Sorry, what allegation.  I think I might have lost the plot.
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: G-Unit on June 05, 2017, 09:01:22 PM
Sorry, what allegation.  I think I might have lost the plot.

In Sil's opinion I allegedly offered a reasonable interpretation of why Madeleine's picture didn't appear on BGT. I wasn't alleging, just suggesting a possibility.
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: Eleanor on June 05, 2017, 09:08:45 PM
In Sil's opinion I allegedly offered a reasonable interpretation of why Madeleine's picture didn't appear on BGT. I wasn't alleging, just suggesting a possibility.

So, no harm done.
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: Brietta on June 06, 2017, 04:25:27 PM
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/06/06/10/4127F01400000578-4576108-image-a-1_1496739835406.jpg)
Natalie Putt appeared on Britain's Got Talent last Friday during the Missing People Choir's performance - her half-sister believed it may have helped sparked interest in her again

Did Britain's Got Talent choir prompt police to reopen search for missing mother? Detectives exhume graves in search for 17-year-old who vanished in 2003 - days after her face appeared in moving BGT appeal


On claims the new information came following the picture being shown on Britain's Got Talent, he said: 'It is fortuitous, I'm aware it was on there. It did the same thing we are trying to do here today, raise awareness and help us appeal for fresh information. We want people to come forward.' 

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4576108/Police-exhume-graves-14-years-Natalie-Putt-vanished.html#ixzz4jEhiEcdf

Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: G-Unit on June 06, 2017, 05:52:05 PM
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/06/06/10/4127F01400000578-4576108-image-a-1_1496739835406.jpg)
Natalie Putt appeared on Britain's Got Talent last Friday during the Missing People Choir's performance - her half-sister believed it may have helped sparked interest in her again

Did Britain's Got Talent choir prompt police to reopen search for missing mother? Detectives exhume graves in search for 17-year-old who vanished in 2003 - days after her face appeared in moving BGT appeal


On claims the new information came following the picture being shown on Britain's Got Talent, he said: 'It is fortuitous, I'm aware it was on there. It did the same thing we are trying to do here today, raise awareness and help us appeal for fresh information. We want people to come forward.' 

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4576108/Police-exhume-graves-14-years-Natalie-Putt-vanished.html#ixzz4jEhiEcdf

The police actions of course, are probably not connected to her picture appearing on the show. There are various permissions needed; the Home Office, the Diocesan Registry, the next of kin's of those buried there. It takes time.
As the policeman said though, it might help further information to come out. 
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: Miss Taken Identity on June 07, 2017, 06:41:32 PM
The police actions of course, are probably not connected to her picture appearing on the show. There are various permissions needed; the Home Office, the Diocesan Registry, the next of kin's of those buried there. It takes time.
As the policeman said though, it might help further information to come out.

I suppose a mention on Crimewatch was out of the question...or a BBC documentry on people who are missing apart from Maddie, as we know he is missing.
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: G-Unit on June 07, 2017, 07:07:23 PM
I watched a documentary about a man who was missing as far as his family were concerned, but was ;out of contact' as far as the Police were concerned because he rang his family occasionally. It turned out he had been taken by travellers and used as a slave worker on a farm. His phone calls were supervised (he was a vulnerable person). It took his family 13 years to find him and rescue him.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-29883114
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: John on June 07, 2017, 10:20:12 PM
Was BGT really the right platform,take the likes of Paul Potts,Susan Boyle who went on to fame and fortune were they really hoping to do that,why not go with some like of Gareth Malone to further it.

I wondered about that too, but it was all about promoting Missing Persons and not winning the competition.
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: Robittybob1 on June 07, 2017, 11:06:16 PM
I watched a documentary about a man who was missing as far as his family were concerned, but was ;out of contact' as far as the Police were concerned because he rang his family occasionally. It turned out he had been taken by travellers and used as a slave worker on a farm. His phone calls were supervised (he was a vulnerable person). It took his family 13 years to find him and rescue him.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-29883114
That was cunning.
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: Miss Taken Identity on June 11, 2017, 03:39:14 PM
I wondered about that too, but it was all about promoting Missing Persons and not winning the competition.

Indeed.

I got really bored with reality 'talent shows' after their first series. it all boils down to the saddest stories ... so pretentious. My gran dies of cancer and this was her favorite song type of hype...or the race card is played-seriously boring. let us all cry all the time-  flowers and candles...we are one and all that just makes me cringe.
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: Brietta on June 11, 2017, 06:59:35 PM
The appearance of the choir on national television certainly had the desired result as far as one family was concerned, I hope things work out well for them.
Teenager who appeared in Britain's Got Talent's Missing People Choir appeal is found safe and well
The boy, 13, called his mother after he saw the choir perform on the talent show
Charity Missing People, who run the choir, say the boy is home safe and well
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4585476/Missing-teen-appeared-BGT-appeal-safe.html[/list]
Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
Post by: sadie on June 12, 2017, 12:18:49 AM
The appearance of the choir on national television certainly had the desired result as far as one family was concerned, I hope things work out well for them.
    Teenager who appeared in Britain's Got Talent's Missing People Choir appeal is found safe and well
    The boy, 13, called his mother after he saw the choir perform on the talent show
    Charity Missing People, who run the choir, say the boy is home safe and well
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4585476/Missing-teen-appeared-BGT-appeal-safe.html[/list]

    Brilliant news  8@??)(.  Let's hope some more missing people come home.
    Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
    Post by: Brietta on June 12, 2017, 12:49:00 AM
    Brilliant news  8@??)(.  Let's hope some more missing people come home.

    Participation in the competition had positive outcomes for the charity Missing People.  It raised some revenue and it raised a new public awareness.
    There may be few or no fairy tale endings, but on the other hand there may be lost people out there whose families may at least be given the chance of finding out what might have happened to their loved ones.


    Where IS missing Tom? Agony as Britain's Got Talent choir tip off falls flat and parents fail to find homeless man in Milan who looks just like son who vanished 14 years ago

    Tom Moore disappeared in Italy in 2003 aged 31 and would now be aged 45

    A 15-year-old Italian boy sent the family videos of a man he claimed was Tom

    Parents Ian and Jennifer flew to Italy but could not find homeless man

    The case will now appear on Italian TV this evening in the hope of a breakthrough

    Brother Ben told MailOnline latest sighting was 'the most realistic to Tom'


    By Paul Thompson for MailOnline
    PUBLISHED: 16:22, 10 June 2017 | UPDATED: 16:35, 10 June 2017

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4588956/Agonising-four-day-hunt-BGT-s-missing-Tom-fails.html#ixzz4[Name removed]xvLU3U
    Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
    Post by: sadie on June 12, 2017, 01:27:28 AM
    Participation in the competition had positive outcomes for the charity Missing People.  It raised some revenue and it raised a new public awareness.
    There may be few or no fairy tale endings, but on the other hand there may be lost people out there whose families may at least be given the chance of finding out what might have happened to their loved ones.


    Where IS missing Tom? Agony as Britain's Got Talent choir tip off falls flat and parents fail to find homeless man in Milan who looks just like son who vanished 14 years ago

    Tom Moore disappeared in Italy in 2003 aged 31 and would now be aged 45

    A 15-year-old Italian boy sent the family videos of a man he claimed was Tom

    Parents Ian and Jennifer flew to Italy but could not find homeless man

    The case will now appear on Italian TV this evening in the hope of a breakthrough

    Brother Ben told MailOnline latest sighting was 'the most realistic to Tom'


    By Paul Thompson for MailOnline
    PUBLISHED: 16:22, 10 June 2017 | UPDATED: 16:35, 10 June 2017

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4588956/Agonising-four-day-hunt-BGT-s-missing-Tom-fails.html#ixzz4[Name removed]xvLU3U


    fingers crossed
    Title: Re: Britain's Got Talent 2017 - Missing People Choir
    Post by: G-Unit on June 12, 2017, 07:51:52 AM
    fingers crossed

    Perhaps he doesn't want to be found? I prefer the Salvation Army who respect the privacy of the missing person.