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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: faithlilly on September 25, 2017, 02:01:34 PM
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We are likely to hear this week but if OG are no longer going to be funded by the HO and the McCanns, as claimed, will carry on the search for their daughter themselves, is Crowdfunding their search now an option ?
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We are likely to hear this week but if OG are no longer going to be funded by the HO and the McCanns, as claimed, will carry on the search for their daughter themselves, is Crowdfunding their search now an option ?
I think they would need a few wealthy benefactors but hope that won't be necessary.
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We are likely to hear this week but if OG are no longer going to be funded by the HO and the McCanns, as claimed, will carry on the search for their daughter themselves, is Crowdfunding their search now an option ?
Crowdfunding would certainly give a measure of the popularity and credibility of the McCanns among the general public.
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I think they would need a few wealthy benefactors but hope that won't be necessary.
Indeed wealthy benefactors would be good but the public could also play their part. If, as the supporter's claim, the McCanns still retain an amount of support and sympathy within the general public surely crowdfunding would be the ideal way to ensure the search continues. You'd contribute wouldn't you Misty ?
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Don't imagine Richard Branson will be forthcoming. Too busy rebuilding his wine cellar and other bits of his property.
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I think they would need a few wealthy benefactors but hope that won't be necessary.
So who would they be these days ?
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Indeed wealthy benefactors would be good but the public could also play their part. If, as the supporter's claim, the McCanns still retain an amount of support and sympathy within the general public surely crowdfunding would be the ideal way to ensure the search continues. You'd contribute wouldn't you Misty ?
No, I did my bit. Donations I make now are for disaster relief appeals to benefit wider communities
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No, I did my bit. Donations I make now are for disaster relief appeals to benefit wider communities
But there's a little girl who is still missing. Would you really leave her to her fate for the want of a few pounds from each of the McCanns hundred of thousands of supporters? Imagine if each of the 500,000 of you who liked and supported the OFM Facebook page gave just £2. Imagine what a difference that would make.
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I would most definitely purchase a no holds barred book ... I imagine quite a few more would ... a tour of the chat shows to promote such a book should raise a fair sum too.
The media are still interested, if the ten year coverage is anything to go by.
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I would most definitely purchase a no holds barred book ... I imagine quite a few more would ... a tour of the chat shows to promote such a book should raise a fair sum too.
The media are still interested, if the ten year coverage is anything to go by.
A no-hold-barred book ? What would that consist of then ?
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I would most definitely purchase a no holds barred book ... I imagine quite a few more would ... a tour of the chat shows to promote such a book should raise a fair sum too.
The media are still interested, if the ten year coverage is anything to go by.
No Holds Barred Book? Amaral or Kate?...Did Kate have parts of her book barred why and by whom I have to wonder.
Are you agreeing with the sceptics that you don't believe Kate's Book told they whole truth and there is more?
Interesting...
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I would most definitely purchase a no holds barred book ... I imagine quite a few more would ... a tour of the chat shows to promote such a book should raise a fair sum too.
The media are still interested, if the ten year coverage is anything to go by.
I would imagine The Express Group are very interested.
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A no-hold-barred book ? What would that consist of then ?
Slagging of Sr Amaral, the PJ. the SC, all things south of the Minho River and west of Guadiana River just for kickers.
IMO
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I would imagine The Express Group are very interested.
Oh indeed- still plenty of money to be made from this poor Childs fate- what ever that was /is.
Express would love to get their money back lol I think the Mirror group is buying over the Express group? heard that on the grapevine.
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Oh indeed- still plenty of money to be made from this poor Childs fate- what ever that was /is.
Express would love to get their money back lol I think the Mirror group is buying over the Express group? heard that on the grapevine.
Indeed; I am sure that will be figuring in the calculations given the circumstances and precedents.... 8(0(*
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We are likely to hear this week but if OG are no longer going to be funded by the HO and the McCanns, as claimed, will carry on the search for their daughter themselves, is Crowdfunding their search now an option ?
If the combined resources of the Portuguese police and the Metropolitan Police couldn't crack this case I don't see a bunch of retired cops playing private detecive managing it somehow. But then it all makes for great headlines and pulls in the cash for the rags.
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If the combined resources of the Portuguese police and the Metropolitan Police couldn't crack this case I don't see a bunch of retired cops playing private detecive managing it somehow. But then it all makes for great headlines and pulls in the cash for the rags.
To date the track record of such worthies does not inspire much confidence.
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To date the track record of such worthies does not inspire much confidence.
Indeed.
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IMO, most of the private investigators that have been employed in this case could organise the proverbial.
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IMO, most of the private investigators that have been employed in this case could organise the proverbial.
In my opinion the fact that information gathered by private investigators was transferred to Operation Grange for use in the present investigation would tend to belie your O.
Neither, in my opinion, does any member posting here know anything about the value of that information, how it was used by the investigation or anything about the investigation or how far it is going.
The fact the investigators have made the request for more funding suggests it has gone far enough and still has further to go.
For now we just wait and see. Some hoping positively some hoping negatively ... some perhaps even for the proverbial.
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In my opinion the fact that information gathered by private investigators was transferred to Operation Grange for use in the present investigation would tend to belie your O.
Neither, in my opinion, does any member posting here know anything about the value of that information, how it was used by the investigation or anything about the investigation or how far it is going.
The fact the investigators have made the request for more funding suggests it has gone far enough and still has further to go.
For now we just wait and see. Some hoping positively some hoping negatively ... some perhaps even for the proverbial.
Has the case been sold, when Rowley stated having several hypotheses ?
Evidently, NO.
I.M.C.H.O.
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Has the case been sold, when Rowley stated having several hypotheses ?
Evidently, NO.
I.M.C.H.O.
I don't think they've sold it ... I do think they know what they are doing and where they are at with it ... which is why they have asked for more money to continue.
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In my opinion the fact that information gathered by private investigators was transferred to Operation Grange for use in the present investigation would tend to belie your O.
Neither, in my opinion, does any member posting here know anything about the value of that information, how it was used by the investigation or anything about the investigation or how far it is going.
The fact the investigators have made the request for more funding suggests it has gone far enough and still has further to go.
For now we just wait and see. Some hoping positively some hoping negatively ... some perhaps even for the proverbial.
I wonder if Control Risks Group gave them what they had?
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I wonder if Control Risks Group gave them what they had?
Control Risks Group &%+((£
Oh right ... isn't that the mob whose boss was extradited to America 8(0(*
I would have expected you to know that as per contract, contact with that group was concluded long before that.
Anyway, that is all probably veering off topic ... unless you think anyone connected with that group might feel morally obliged to contribute a substantial amount to funding further action on Madeleine's behalf at some time in the future.
I don't really think it would be worth while for any connected with the group to tout for future employment.
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Control Risks Group &%+((£
Oh right ... isn't that the mob whose boss was extradited to America 8(0(*
I would have expected you to know that as per contract, contact with that group was concluded long before that.
Anyway, that is all probably veering off topic ... unless you think anyone connected with that group might feel morally obliged to contribute a substantial amount to funding further action on Madeleine's behalf at some time in the future.
I don't really think it would be worth while for any connected with the group to tout for future employment.
I would have expected you to know who they were, but there you go.....
Sorry for veering off topic it was your post about PI's that reminded me of them.
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As I said previously there's little transparency as to where the Fund's money has gone and why. Crowdfunding money would disappear in the same way in my opinion.
Perhaps a completely new charitable Fund with neutral trustees and complete openness would be worth donating to. They could hire a reputable firm of investigators, perhaps.
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But there's a little girl who is still missing. Would you really leave her to her fate for the want of a few pounds from each of the McCanns hundred of thousands of supporters? Imagine if each of the 500,000 of you who liked and supported the OFM Facebook page gave just £2. Imagine what a difference that would make.
Then I'm sure you will now see fit to make your own contribution to a fund to find Madeleine, if you haven't already done so.
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As I said previously there's little transparency as to where the Fund's money has gone and why. Crowdfunding money would disappear in the same way in my opinion.
Perhaps a completely new charitable Fund with neutral trustees and complete openness would be worth donating to. They could hire a reputable firm of investigators, perhaps.
The bottom line is that a Fund initially set up solely to search for Madeleine has seen much of its funds siphoned off for other purposes. Given that fact, a Crowdfunding plea could have no credibility IMHO.
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Then I'm sure you will now see fit to make your own contribution to a fund to find Madeleine, if you haven't already done so.
I think she is beyond any benefit my money would bring Misty. You on the other hand believe otherwise which begs the question why you seem unwilling to contribute to any further searching.
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I think she is beyond any benefit my money would bring Misty. You on the other hand believe otherwise which begs the question why you seem unwilling to contribute to any further searching.
Unlike some others, I am happy for my taxes to be used to pay for the continuation of the investigation. We have seen how 2 different PI teams have failed Madeleine & her parents; there is also the US case of Deorr Kunz where the PI paid to locate Deorr has also had his honesty called into question by more than one client. So, whilst I would like the search to continue to be funded if cureent investigations are wound down without resolution, I have no intention of contributing to another potential freeloader seeking a beer & baccy/retirement fund.
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Unlike some others, I am happy for my taxes to be used to pay for the continuation of the investigation. We have seen how 2 different PI teams have failed Madeleine & her parents; there is also the US case of Deorr Kunz where the PI paid to locate Deorr has also had his honesty called into question by more than one client. So, whilst I would like the search to continue to be funded if cureent investigations are wound down without resolution, I have no intention of contributing to another potential freeloader seeking a beer & baccy/retirement fund.
The failure Misty was the McCann's in not taking care of all their children, and their associates were just as bad.
Madeleine was searched for extensively by many people including the local police.
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The failure Misty was the McCann's in not taking care of all their children, and their associates were just as bad.
Madeleine was searched for extensively by many people including the local police.
What has your reply got to do with me not wanting to donate any more money to future searches?
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The failure Misty was the McCann's in not taking care of all their children, and their associates were just as bad.
Madeleine was searched for extensively by many people including the local police.
"Their associates" got to take their children home, so there was a big difference.
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The failure Misty was the McCann's in not taking care of all their children, and their associates were just as bad.
Madeleine was searched for extensively by many people including the local police.
...and employing less than ideal PIs. IMO
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I believe Brian Kennedy, not the McCanns, was responsible for hiring the 2 sets of PI's who turned rogue as he was footing much of the bill. I've stated my position honestly.
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I believe Brian Kennedy, not the McCanns, was responsible for hiring the 2 sets of PI's who turned rogue as he was footing much of the bill. I've stated my position honestly.
And Edgar ?
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What has your reply got to do with me not wanting to donate any more money to future searches?
You can donate all you wish.
It won't make a difference.
I.M.H.O. naturally.
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...and employing less than ideal PIs. IMO
Indeed.
I.M.O. as well.
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A reminder to all posters that sniping and goading is unacceptable just in case anyone has forgotten.