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Alleged Miscarriages of Justice => Jeremy Bamber and the callous murder of his father, mother, sister and twin nephews. Case effectively CLOSED by CCRC on basis of NO APPEAL REFERRAL. => Topic started by: John on December 04, 2012, 07:56:02 PM
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I have lifted this excellent post by someone called ralph over on the blue forum. I know we have explained this several times in the past but I believe this concise version is excellent.
It should be clear to all that much of Jeremy Bamber’s defence is based on the phone call from “Neville Bamber” to the police. If “Neville Bamber” did make such a call then it is clear that Jeremy Bamber is innocent.
However……
Unlike modern day telephone exchanges which automatically record the number from which a 999 call is dialled from, the BT exchanges in 1985 did not have that level of sophistication. There was a simple meter attached to your phone line @ your local exchange. All it recorded was the number of minutes your phone had used. at a given tariff.
Therefore it would have been perfectly possible for Jeremy Bamber to dial 999 from his own house phone, claim to be his father Neville and to say “my daughter has gone berserk with a gun”. Leaving the phone off the hook in the farm after committing the murders would have helped reinforce the idea that Neville had indeed made the calls.
What is rather damning for Jeremy’s case is that, by his own admission, rather than dial 999 for his own call to the police (which any normal person would have done). he looked up his local police station in the phone book and called them. Why?
Well, if you believe that he is guilty, then the reason is quite straight-forward. A 999 call would have been put through to the Divisonal HQ by the BT Operator (which is what happened with the “Neville” call).
If Jeremy Bamber had made that call then he risked being caught out if, minutes later, he then made a similar 999 call, this time posing as the worried son. The chances are that he would have gone via the same BT Operator and been connected to the same duty officer at the Divisional HQ. Either one of them might have suspected that the same caller was making both calls..
They only way to avoid this was to phone his local police station directly.
In this way he was guaranteed to speak to a different duty officer (which is what happened). Like the Divisional HQ officer that duty officer also dispatched a patrol car, hence the reason for 2 cars being dispatched. CA7 was dispatched by the Divisional HQ officer (and arrived first), whislt CA5 was dispatched by the local station.
Think about it – if your sister was going crazy with a gun, would you waste time looking up the number of your local police station in the phone book or would you simply dial 999 ?
There were 3 telephone calls in question:
1. Neville Bamber’s 999 call to the police
A phone call was made by a person claiming to be “Neville Bamber”. However, the prosecution dispute that Neville actually made the call since he was shot in the Larynx which would have made speech very difficult, if not impossible. However, the defence could have argued that he may have been shot in the larynx after making the calls.
2. Neville Bamber to Jeremy Bamber
The prosecution have always maintained that no call was ever made by Neville to Jeremy, since the latter was the killer. The defence has always argued that the call was made and that Jeremy is innocent. Sadly there is no way that we can ever know which version is correct.
3. Jeremy Bamber to the police station
The call from Jeremy was made to his local police station. The prosecution would have asked why, when his sister was going crazy with a gun did he waste time looking up his local police station’s phone number in the phone book? Why did he also phone his girlfriend before calling the police, despite the seriousness of the situation?
It is possible that Jeremy, being unfamiliar with the workings of a BT exchange, may have incorrectly thought that he needed to make another call to prevent the 999 call being traced back to his phone. Maybe he thought that the exchange held the last number he dialled (a bit like the modern 1471 feature), hence his reason for phoning his girlfriend. Perhaps he needed to catch his breathe or collect his thought before making his next call to the police. Maybe he thought that his original 999 call under the guise of being his father went to his local police station and was scared that he would be put through to the same duty officer again, and so wanted to wait a few minutes just in case.
Whatever the reason, he briefly phoned his girlfriend, then looked up his local police station’s number before finally calling them.
I don’t know whether Jeremy Bamber is guilty or innocent, but the above is a feasible method by which he could have faked the calls. Impossible to do these days with the modern exchanges since the 999 caller id is automatically recorded, but was possible in 1985 when the murders were committed.
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Thanks for sharing John, that's quite a convincing argument (from someone who claims to be undecided!). That would be a pretty good explanation for the two differing phone logs.
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You can bet his post is going to be pretty much ignored.
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You can bet his post is going to be pretty much ignored.
Well, yes, it looks as if it has been, since my response is 5 years later!!!
I am learning about the case , and I must say, I found the post very helpful.
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Well, yes, it looks as if it has been, since my response is 5 years later!!!
I am learning about the case , and I must say, I found the post very helpful.
Except there weren't any 999 calls from anyone claiming to be 'Nevil Bamber'. There was a definite call from Jeremy to police and one alleged call from Nevil to Jeremy. It is Jeremy and the CT who later claimed that Nevill called the police, they have taken the log written by Bonnett from the details he received from West as a result of informative received from Jeremy and are trying to say it is the result of a call from Nevil.
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This person goes into great detail about a motive for calling the local station which doesn't actually exist. He is under the erroneous impression someone called 999 claiming to be Nevill.
"I don’t know whether Jeremy Bamber is guilty or innocent, but the above is a feasible method by which he could have faked the calls. Impossible to do these days with the modern exchanges since the 999 caller id is automatically recorded, but was possible in 1985 when the murders were committed."
Not only was there no call to 999 claiming to be Nevill, he is unaware that 999 calls were recorded back in 1985. That is a reason not to call 999 pretending to be Nevill.
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Here we go again, it must be getting near to Christmas?
Jeremy Bamber's 'new evidence' that could free him after 33 years behind bars
EXCLUSIVE The mass killer was jailed for shooting parents Nevill and June, model sister Sheila “Bambi” Caffell, and her six-year-old twin sons Daniel and Nicholas at White House Farm, Essex, in August 1985.
By Matthew Young
Published 18 October 2019
Mass murderer Jeremy Bamber claims he has unearthed phone call evidence that could set him free, 33 years after he was jailed for slaughtering his family.
Bamber, 58, has found a phone log he says proves he did not shoot parents Nevill and June, model sister Sheila “Bambi” Caffell, and her six-year-old twin sons Daniel and Nicholas in August 1985.
Bamber is serving a full life tariff for the massacre at White House Farm in Essex.
His legal team say a police record referring to a call made by Bamber on the night of the White House Farm massacre in 1985 proves he was not there at the time and could form the basis of an appeal.
They say it backs up the theory that Bamber’s sister Sheila Caffell, 26, murdered their parents Nevill and June, both 61, then shot her own sons, twins Nicholas and Daniel, six, before killing herself.
Bamber’s lawyer Mark Newby said: “The evidence strongly suggests the chain of events could not have been what the prosecution alleged.”
The phone call evidence forms one element of a huge bundle Bamber’s team will soon submit to the Criminal Case Review Commission.
The previously unseen police document appears to back up Bamber’s story that two calls were made to police on the night of the murders, one from his father and one from him after Nevill rang saying Sheila had “gone crazy”.
At his trial, the prosecution said only one call was made to police – from Jeremy Bamber at 3.26am from the crime scene, White House Farm in Tolleshunt D’Arcy, Essex. But the new document describes a call to police from Jeremy Bamber timed at “approx 3.37am”.
His legal team argue it shows Bamber could not have made the 3.26am call from the farm and returned to his home 3.5 miles away in Goldhanger to make the second call.
The “3.37am” note came from an interview with a PC Myall, of Essex Police, during the Dickinson Inquiry into the force’s handling of the case after Bamber’s conviction in November 1986.
The note was found by Bamber among thousands of police documents released to him in 2011.
PC Myall is noted as telling Dickinson: “We received a telephone call at the P.Stn (Police Station, Witham).
"The officer (PC West) at CD Control (Chelmsford) was on the phone and told us that he was relating information to us and still had the informant (Jeremy Bamber) on the other telephone.”
The trial judge had instructed the jury to disregard Bamber’s claims that he had called police from his home at 3.36am.
And prosecutors told the trial Bamber had invented the call from Nevill to lay the blame on schizophrenic Sheila, known as Bambi when she worked as a model.
Bamber was convicted by a 10-2 majority of murdering his family to claim a £436,000 inheritance.
He was initially sentenced to five life sentences, to serve a minimum 25 years, but that was increased to a whole life tariff in 1994.
The Mirror revealed in 2010 how lost phone logs showed it was Nevill who called police at 3.26am.
A further record submitted to the Criminal Case Review Commission in 2010 showed a 3.36am call to police from Jeremy Bamber.
But the CCRC ruled the 3.36am call was noted in error and that there was just one call, from Jeremy not Nevill, made at 3.26am from White House Farm scene.
The new “3.37am” note is said to prove the existence of the second call.
ITV last week announced a drama about the murders next year, with Freddie Fox as Bamber, who is in Wakefield jail, West Yorkshire.
Bamber was famously pictured with girlfriend Julie Mugford, 21, struggling to contain his grief walking behind his parents’ coffins at their funeral.
After Julie found he had cheated on her, she told police Bamber had talked of hiring a hitman to kill his parents.
A blood-stained silencer was also found at the farm by Bamber’s cousin.
Bamber’s team say they now have evidence of two silencers examined by police, both believed to contain blood that could belong to Sheila or now-deceased cousin Robert Boutflour.
They say a forensic report has been given to the CPS about this evidence. Bamber believes police always had evidence that would have cleared him, but failed to disclose it at his trial, his first appeal in 1989 or second in 2002.
Between 2004 and 2011, Bamber made three CCRC submissions in a failed attempt to get his case back to the Court of Appeal. He has also made appeals against his whole life tariff.
Essex Police said: “There has never been anything to suggest that he was wrongly convicted.” But Bamber’s lawyer is now hopeful of a new appeal.
Mr Newby said: “The phone call information is consistent with what Jeremy Bamber always said. It is part of a package of evidence that should lead to a positive review for Jeremy.
“It’s fair to say when we go back to the CCRC we will have a pretty strong package which we hope they will refer to the Court of Appeal. We hope we will get it across the line.
“If we do, it is probably this country’s greatest ever miscarriage of justice.”
The case against
The prosecution said Bamber, then 24, had cycled to White House Farm and got in via an insecure window before murdering his family.
Girlfriend Julie Mugford said Bamber had planned the killings and had phoned her, saying: “Tonight’s the night.”
A silencer found three days later had Sheila’s blood inside. Prosecutors said she could hardly have put it back in the cupboard if she had lready killed herself with it.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-bambers-new-evidence-could-20651305
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The Mirror are to be applauded for their optimism. However, It should be noted that no police officer or civilian telephone operator has ever stated that a telephone call was received from Nevill Bamber. The only person recorded as having telephoned the police has always been Jeremy Bamber. Nothing has changed that fact.
The original call was made by Jeremy Bamber to the police at 3.26am. Jeremy Bamber spoke to the telephone operator for several minutes and was eventually put on hold while the operator attempted to contact the appropriate police station. By the time the operator came back to Bamber the call was recorded as having been made at 3.37am. It has always been accepted that only one call was made to police and that call was placed by Jeremy Bamber. There is no record of any sort that his murdered father made any telephone call to anyone.
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The Mirror are to be applauded for their optimism. However, It should be noted that no police officer or civilian telephone operator has ever stated that a telephone call was received from Nevill Bamber. The only person recorded as having telephoned the police has always been Jeremy Bamber. Nothing has changed that fact.
The original call was made by Jeremy Bamber to the police at 3.26am. Jeremy Bamber spoke to the telephone operator for several minutes and was eventually put on hold while the operator attempted to contact the appropriate police station. By the time the operator came back to Bamber the call was recorded as having been made at 3.37am. It has always been accepted that only one call was made to police and that call was placed by Jeremy Bamber. There is no record of any sort that his murdered father made any telephone call to anyone.
Surely there couldn't have been two people from the same family, in the face of someone going berserk with a gun, stupid enough to go through a telephone directory to look up numbers of police stations, when there was the immediate facility of 999?
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Bamber needs to attempt to get his release on a technicality - that one piece of evidence could be wrong. It won't prove he is innocent but he can continue to claim he is innocent as a free man.
To say there is one piece of evidence which proves his innocence, will not work. As it would mean all the other incriminating evidence would have to be reversed.
This is just more properganda from the CT in the build up to the TV drama.
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Bamber needs to attempt to get his release on a technicality - that one piece of evidence could be wrong. It won't prove he is innocent but he can continue to claim he is innocent as a free man.
To say there is one piece of evidence which proves his innocence, will not work. As it would mean all the other incriminating evidence would have to be reversed.
This is just more properganda from the CT in the build up to the TV drama.
Mark Newby
@MarkNewbyqsj
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The Mirror Front Page
Jeremy Bamber's 'new evidence' that could free him after 33 years behind bars
The mass killer was jailed for shooting parents Nevill and June, model sister Sheila “Bambi” Caffell, and her six-year-old twin sons Daniel and Nicholas at White House Farm, Essex, in August 1985
mirror.co.uk
https://mobile.twitter.com/MarkNewbyqsj/status/1185482009419943936
Jeremy Bamber Case - Statement Following Mirror Article
Posted on October 19, 2019
“Today a story appeared on the Front Page of the Mirror concerning the Case of Jeremy Bamber and this is our statement in relation to that
We confirm we act on behalf of Jeremy Bamber and have seen the article now published by the Mirror which we contributed to .
Further we can confirm that we are working with Jeremy's dedicated support team to build an extensive package of grounds including the evidence referred to in the Mirror so that we can provide the Criminal Cases Review Commission a set of grounds of appeal upon which it can make a swift referral back to the Court of Appeal .
That also relies upon obtaining further disclosure which is currently being sought .
This is a complex case and if successful would be one of the U.K.'s most notorious miscarriages of justice .
We do not propose therefore as Jeremy's legal team to further elaborate on the grounds to be advanced or other actions that may be imminent at this stage , however we expect to make a further statement in the coming weeks .
https://www.qualitysolicitors.com/jordans/news/2019/10/jeremy-bamber-case-statement-following-mirror-article
National Training Conference on Investigating Miscarriages of Justice 2018
"Mark Newby, solicitor advocate, possibly the UK's foremost criminal appeal lawyer and a long term active supporter of innocence projects MJRCs, will talk about his recent successes and the technicalities of putting together an appeal case. Andrew Green, is the Director of the Miscarriages of Justice Review Centre at the University of Sheffield. Andrew also runs INNOCENT and has a long history of working with the families and victims of Miscarriages of Justice.
http://events.manchester.ac.uk/event/event:v7f-jdftuiyz-ea4yoz/national-training-conference-on-investigating-miscarriages-of-justice-2018
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6819.msg289086#msg289086
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POSTED BY: ADMIN OCTOBER 14, 2015
“Challenging Miscarriages – the Inability of the System to Accept Responsibility”
by Mark Newby, United Against Injustice, Conference, Liverpool, Saturday 10th October 2015.
Thank you for inviting me here today to speak to you about a subject that not only we are concerned about but that every right thinking member of society should care about – miscarriages of justice.
Today I want to talk to the subject of the inability of the establishment to accept responsibility.
My argument here today is that we are probably at the worst moment we have ever been at for tackling such miscarriages and I would say that one of the fundamental reasons for this is the inability of the machinery of the state to accept responsibility and admit error when they are wrong.
You see we are all human beings in the end and a system that relies on individuals will in the end deliver outcomes based upon human error. Whether you are the hapless accused, the Police, the Prosecutor, the Defence Counsel, the Jury, the Judge, the appeal lawyer, the CCRC or the Appeal Judges We All Make Mistakes And We Are All Infallable .
Of course the fundamental problem with a system that never admits mistakes is that it is in a downward spiral – organisations that cannot admit fault in the end will become failing organisations. The easiest answer is to brush it under the carpet or find an excuse for why things went wrong.
But sticking plasters will not save a system which is bleeding from every artery.
As we will see one case which demonstrates better than most complete system failure is the case of Victor Nealon and you will hear from Victor this afternoon about this and the personal impact the best part of the last two decades have had upon him. But of course there are other illustrations and so for example I will also mention another case I am now instructed in and have been interested in for some time the Appeal of Susan May. Finally I would like to deal with the current spate of cases in the aftermath of the Savile scandal.
But before we enter into the cases let’s consider how bad the situation is and look at some of the key issues facing us :
1. We have given control of our Justice System to the Media and Politicians
2. We have removed fundamental safeguards of those accused and each year these safeguards are eroded further
3. Public funding has been subject to a sustained and unremitting attack
4. Past cuts have encouraged poor representation and cases where every corner is cut
5. The CPS is in my view badly administered and massively underfunded, high quality advocacy and review in the CPS has been positively discouraged by the changes introduced for example the new policy on charging offenders in sexual offence cases leading to the lowest common denominator for prosecutions.
6. We have taken the Forensic Science Service which was admired across the World and decimated it and the retention of exhibits for another perceived financial saving. Now we leave exhibits in the hands of private organisations with restricted ability to access those exhibits when a case goes wrong.
7. The Police themselves have equally been attacked by substantial cut backs, large reduction in experienced investigators and a drive towards results at all costs.
8. The Courts are skewed in favour of convictions at all costs and we live in a world where “statistics” are the order of the day, we charge additional fines and disincentivise those who want to plead not guilty.
9. We have a public funding system for criminal appeals which is non-existent, difficult to achieve and awash with delay.
10. The Court of Appeal has become a hurdle which few get across in seeking to appeal their convictions and the Court itself has put in place significant hurdles. For example it has over recent years narrowed appeals based on false memory, weakened fatally good character directions and recently introduced a requirement for original legal teams to comment on the grounds and factual basis. Whether through design or by accident the net effect of these reforms has been to narrow the opportunity to appeal.
11. The Supreme Court in Nunn has reinforced difficulties in obtaining access to Original Exhibits denying some appellants the opportunity to ever put right their wrongful convictions
12. The CCRC remains under funded, delays are wholly unacceptable and there remains a lack of dialogue and accountability for CCRC decisions
13. Even if you manage to achieve against all odds a successful quashing of your conviction it is virtually impossible to be compensated for what has happened to you.
This brings us nicely to the case of Victor Nealon, we will return to some of the other issues shortly.
Victor Nealon was convicted of attempted rape in 1997. The victim was attacked outside a nightclub in Redditch by an unknown male. The evidence used to secure his conviction was a disputed ID parade and a weakened alibi. The court was under the impression that there was no DNA evidence available from the exhibits. This was a false impression.
Most witnesses did not pick out Victor Nealon, there was no identification by the complainant or her friend and of the 3 that did 2 may have been privy to conversations with a police officer at the time of the ID and a third said at trial that he had a lurking doubt that he was right.
As for the alibi it was a cheap attempt to attack Victor Nealon’s credibility by contradicting videos which were said to have been rented from a Video Store.
Importantly, Victor Nealon had offered his DNA to the police in order that they could have exculpated him from the offence. The officer did not arrange any DNA tests.
What the jury did not know was that the exhibits had not been tested. Only the skirt of the victim was produced at the trial and the remaining exhibits remained in their sealed bags.
Following a first failed appeal by the same legal team, who it appears had taken their eye off the ball during the original case, Victor Nealon was left to apply to a newly formed independent body CCRC. His was not a fishing expedition to seek to obtain DNA evidence to support his cause, he knew his DNA was not on the items and he urged the commission to undertake those tests. In two separate applications advanced by experienced appeal lawyers, the Commission rejected the application putting forward – an erroneous proposition that “it did not undertake speculative tests”. This was a serious error by the commission. You might have thought that the commission having been newly created it would have dedicated itself to cases such as these and sought to undertake that work.
The truth is of course that in those formative years for the commission it was swamped with old cases from the old C3 Division at the Home Office and the organisation quickly fell into one which it was never envisaged to be – a desktop case review body rather than a body set up to independently investigate miscarriages of justice.
We now know of course that the Commission has taken an exceptional approach to this case and the Chairman has apologised in person to Victor Nealon. Apologies are a rare thing in the criminal justice system. But as we shall see this simply isn’t enough.
In 2008 having been approached we saw the only way forward was to seek to do what the Commission would not and, as a result, with support from the Legal Aid Agency we commissioned DNA tests. As we know the results were startling – showing that on most of the victims clothing (intimate areas) an unknown male was identified as the contributor, not Victor Nealon.
The Commission then undertook comprehensive work in its third review to discount every possible innocent explanation for the presence of the DNA.
This allowed Peter Wilcock QC counsel for Nealon to say in the Court of Appeal on 13th December 2013 that such evidence was likely to have had a dynamite impact upon the Trial. That of course is not the end of the story in this case.
But this case isn’t just about the CCRC in the affair:
it poses questions of other players
The Police. There was the disputed ID evidence in which Victor Nealon was not identified by any of the key witnesses. In respect of the limited identifications that did follow there remains the question of why the police officer dealing with the case was present at the ID Parade. There is the question why the same officer failed to act on the DNA evidence and why late rebuttal evidence over an alibi was not produced until the end of the trial.
There is the question of why the officer arguably misled the Court and the CPS and continued to do so during the appeal investigation.
In a current atmosphere where the integrity of the police is called into question this case offers little comfort. It is yet another troubling case for the police.
To West Mercia Polices credit they launched a fresh investigation to find the true suspect for the original crime and an ongoing investigation called for by the major crime review team into the original investigation and the officers involved was initiated by the Professional Standards Department.
Unfortunately it is particularly disappointing to say that 18 months down the road that investigation is still running and the Professional Standards Department have fallen into serious delay with the investigation.
At the same time Proceedings have now been instigated against the Chief Constable of West Mercia Police based upon misfeasance in public office, malicious prosecution and false imprisonment.
There are of course other players as well who should answer for what has gone wrong. We alluded to the Criminal Cases Review Commission and the apology that they have proffered both in writing and personally to Victor Nealon . There is no doubt that serious errors were made in failing to investigate the forensic position and relying on what they were told by the police.
The issue is however is that enough? Should a man simply say that I have been given an apology so that is all I can do? We think not, those who are at fault should make recompense.
Accordingly notice of intended proceedings have been given to the CCRC. This will be an action grounded in negligence and will bring with it its own challenges. I will not elaborate too much on this action as it is pending and I do not want to place the CCRC who have come today in a difficult position answering an action they cannot publically comment upon. Suffice to say this, we have weighed up all arguments but have come to the conclusion that proceedings should be brought, if they can, because how else does a man ensure the power of the state not to make gross mistakes is checked.
The perverseness of the situation is made even clearer then when in the aftermath of Victor Nealon’s conviction being quashed:
Both the CCRC and the Police indicating their support for his challenge against the MOJ but didn’t want to address their own failings. There is of course a pattern here – no responsibility but a willingness to pass responsibility to others.
There is also a current dialogue with Victor Nealons original solicitors whom also are seeking to avoid any liability. This time his lawyers are seeking to return to the old favourite of civil limitation to seek to avoid a claim, where it is clear all of the issues in this case might be avoided if his original solicitors had done what a competent lawyer would have namely commissioned their own DNA tests.
So if the appellant was let down by the police, his solicitors and the CCRC in the past, you might of at least thought he could rely on the support of the state on his release.
The reality is that whilst the Court of Appeal has a miscarriage of justice unit, it is wholly underfunded and as a result there is little safety net for those who are released by the Court of Appeal. This is exaggerated when due to cost saving an appellant like Victor Nealon is released from a distant prison when the Court uses a video link.
The net result was that he was left abandoned on the 13th December 2013 having been dumped at Leeds Railway Station. He was only saved when a BBC Journalist offered to get him a room in return for an interview.
We should have a system in place for cases like this where those released are fully supported and receive urgent interim financial support. Disturbingly the State will instead put every hurdle in the way of Victor Nealon as he fights to have his life restored.
His claim for compensation has been refused and the Secretary of State with his new miscarriage test is seeking to go behind the decision of the Court of Appeal Criminal Division. The new test now requires an applicant to show beyond a reasonable doubt that he did not commit the offence.This is an innocence test one which should be specifically excluded. The previous law made quite clear that an applicant is not required to demonstrate his innocence, the SSJ should not be allowed to go behind the judgement of the court of appeal which restores innocence to the applicant. The new section was only enacted following the successful challenge of Ian Lawless in Ali and Others [ 2013 ] where the court settled on a formulation that entitlement to compensation was merited where no reasonable jury properly directed could not convict the applicant on the basis of the newly discovered fact.
In Ali the Secretary of State had sought again to go behind the Court of Appeals decision and argue that just because the confession evidence was deemed unreliable there could still have been a re-trial. A nonsense of course because there was no other evidence upon which to try the hapless Mr Lawless. He had made the whole thing up.
Only recently did Ian Lawless finally get an offer of compensation – 5 years after his conviction was quashed. A wholly unacceptable time period during which Ian Lawless has suffered greatly.
It should also be remembered that the test in Ali and Others was not a generous one so for example Barry George could not achieve compensation because his case went all the way to re-trial and therefore the Court was able to conclude that there was evidence for a properly directed jury to consider.
As a result there was no reason for the Govt to enact the new section other than a pure ideological intention to stop those wrongfully convicted being compensated at all costs.
Where are we now with the Miscarriage of Justice Challenges?
The case was refused in the Divisional Court and is now with permission on appeal to the Court of Appeal Civil Division. It is likely that whatever the outcome there the losing party will appeal on to the Supreme Court, particularly as the Secretary of State for Justice contends the Courts are bound by the Supreme Court decision in Adams.
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It would take a whole day of the conference to explain just how complicated the current arguments are over the New Scheme, the meaning of Innocence and whether the new section breaches article 6 (2) of the European Convention of Human Rights.
The essence of the argument is that:
1 – We say the new section is unlawful
2 – The new wording of commit is the same as asking someone to prove innocence
3 – We can prove Innocence in any event
4 – We dispute whether the Court in Adams really did declare that the test was a “lex special is” or that 6 ( 2 ) would not apply. The SSJ arguing the Court has previously declared the law on this issue to be a special category to which normal judicial review principles do not apply – ” lex special is”
5 – We are satisfied that if this case goes to Europe that unlike in Allen the Court is very likely to conclude the Governments new scheme is a breach of the convention and should not stand.
6 – The Govt cannot escape in this litigation simply because at the end of every refusal letter they record a hollow sentiment that just because they have refused compensation doesn’t mean that the applicant tis not innocent.
What is clear is that all these legal challenges eat up time during which Victor Nealon will not achieve any just settlement for what has happened to him.
Not only that but the Government will use the current position to refuse everyone the prospect of any miscarriage compensation.
So there we have it the sorry tale in the Victor Nealon Case of a system unable to accept responsibility. The Police who misused their powers to secure a wrongful conviction, his defence lawyers who incompetently let him down, the CCRC who made serious mistakes in reviewing his case and the ministry of justice who are financially seeking to avoid a just settlement at all costs.
If only the efforts all of these organisations have now put in to defend themselves had been put into dealing with the case in the first place Victor Nealon would never have had to endure what has befallen him.
Perhaps one of the greatest issues that challenge appellants today is that of delay. Another couple of cases illustrate the point. Firstly an unsuccessful CCRC Referral – Dent. Mr Dent applied to the CCRC many years ago and was given a provisional statement not to refer. Representations were made as to why that was wrong – that was in 2006/7 – it was not until 2012 that his case was finally referred. By then of course the tide had turned once again over sexual offences and the net result was that his appeal was refused.
Another person for whom time ran against them was Susan May. I am pleased to have been asked to help Susan’s application having had the honour to meet her at such conferences several times.
Susan’s family and supporters worked tirelessly to get a fresh application to the CCRC It has been a long fight one which Susan was not to see the end of having sadly passed away in October 2013. If you want to know more about Susan’s case then I would urge you to visit her website and watch the documentary which has been made over the case.
For a considerable amount of time the Commission have had this latest submission based upon some excellent work from Arie Zellerman who you will hear from later. Sadly this is another example of a case which seems lost in the CCRC with the latest update referring to scoping work between forensic scientists.
If the Commission agree with the Family’s Expert then it is likely that this case will call for referral on the basis that key evidence the Crown relied upon was wrongly attributed to Susan.
Of course it may be to the applicant’s considerable advantage that this detailed work is being done but it seems a repetitive theme that cases nonetheless get lost in the very structure of the CCRC and its endless committees and deliberations rather than action and feedback.
Let us then consider some of the other worries to which I have alluded to. The Savile Scandal and the issue of historical allegations.
Of course the fallout from the scandal is not all bad and if some genuine victims do get justice as a result then that this outcome must be respected.
The unpalatable truth however is that such investigations lead to many false allegations and this is particularly so when officers charged with conducting an independent investigation start an enquiry by making public statements indicating that they “believe the victims”. I am sure some of you saw the recent Panorama programme and this is indicative of the problems that are now faced.
It is clear that some allegations have been given far too much support rather than a sceptical eye. It does not mean that some should not have been prosecuted or that the police had placed in the past too much store in support from the establishment but that does not provide an excuse for a lurch to a threshold for testing allegations pre charge which is now non-existent.
We are involved in a number of these enquiries across the country and whilst the last outcome shouldn’t affect future trials it is perhaps disturbing that for example in North Wales we have secured 3 consecutive acquittals.
Where cases collapse or proceed to acquittal with regularity this raises serious questions over whether the pendulum has swung too far. Not only does bringing false allegations or flimsy prosecutions ruin the lives of those accused but it also acts as a positive disincentive to these who are genuine victims.
What then of the Court of Appeal? This is an institution which was almost universally criticised during the recent Justice Committee Enquiry to which I was one of those who had the pleasure giving evidence. This had led to a strongly critical report by the Committee calling for a review of the test for quashing convictions and in turn if required a review of the CCRC test for referral.
Ultimately the Court of Appeal is not considering cases in the way that was envisaged following the Criminal Appeal Act 1995 and the suggestion in its defence from the former Lord Chief Justice that it was open to consider general safety of what might often be referred to as “lurking doubt” is unsustainable.
The problem is that the evidence is that the Court is now pursuing a strategy of narrowing the opportunity to appeal at every turn. From the outside it seems like it is seeking to plug every gap for an appeal in the hope that this will somehow protect the integrity of the system when in fact the converse is true.
Some examples have been:
Requiring a Single Judge to no longer grant permission to appeal on the papers in a case long out of time but to refer it to the full court for consideration.
Blocking the availability of Good Character directions in any case where the Crown might rely on bad character
Requiring appeal lawyers to confirm the factual basis and obtain comments on any grounds of appeal
On bad appeals reporting Solicitors and Counsel to their regulatory bodies Reducing to an almost non -existent level the availability of rep orders in the Court of Appeal for Solciitors .
Plugging the gap rulings – where there is an appeal granted subsequently targeting that new point and over turning it in subsequent cases
The CCRC – I have said something about the CCRC already and I probably don’t need to say too much more. Too slow, still too secretive and not referring nearly enough cases. Yet it is still a vital organisation and one with many good commissioners and lawyers such as those who have supported this conference today. The inconsistency and lack of transparency remain the vital issues which the commission still have to address.
We don’t want to see headlines about Professional Footballers applying to the CCRC we want to see headlines about the increased numbers of referrals and quashed convictions of ordinary applicants.
Finally perhaps the gravest challenge to the future is the systematic attack on Legal Aid. We now have a system that has sustained:
17.5% cuts on fixed fees
Those fees had already been reduced year on year for the last 15 years Payments incentivised towards securing guilty pleas
A dramatic reduction already in the number of providers
Proposals to reduce the number of duty solicitors contracts from 1200 to 525 A systematic attack on criminal appeal firms with aggressive auditing practices
Limits on when firms can grant funding
Reductions in the fees that can be paid to expert witnesses
The removal of defence cost orders to anyone who has not been refused legal aid and then only paid at legal aid rates
The consequences of which are large numbers of firms can no longer operate financially and are leaving. The pool of good miscarriage of justice lawyers is rapidly diminishing at a time when conversely the amount of miscarriages are increasing.
Ultimately there is a common thread to all of this
.it is easy to attack legal aid, to
restrict appeals and fail to refer or to investigate or prosecute flimsy cases when the system has nothing to worry about because it does not answer for its mistakes .where error can be swept under the carpet.
However .. perhaps we are coming close now to a time when the cracks can no longer be papered over. Where the efforts to block justice have become so perverse that they will soon be no longer sustainable. Where scandal has fatally damaged the police, where prosecutions are collapsing with too much regularity and where our appellate system is being criticised by the establishment itself.
The next few years will determine what sort of society we want to be in the end, if we truly believe in justice we shall have to learn how to say sorry and put right our errors.
We should not fight against compensating men such as Victor Nealon, Sam Hallam and Ian Lawless we should embrace the opportunity to do so. We should embrace our failures they are the road to success and better organisations. Let me remind you what Michael Jordan one of the most successful basketball players the world has even seen said:
“I’ve missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I’ve lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I’ve been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I’ve failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed”
Thank you all for listening,
http://bfms.org.uk/challenging-miscarriages-of-justice/
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Bamber needs to attempt to get his release on a technicality - that one piece of evidence could be wrong. It won't prove he is innocent but he can continue to claim he is innocent as a free man.
To say there is one piece of evidence which proves his innocence, will not work. As it would mean all the other incriminating evidence would have to be reversed.
This is just more properganda from the CT in the build up to the TV drama.
Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
20m
@DailyMirror
I feel we ought to thank you for highlighting this contentious case. This man has been vilified so badly, people are fearful of standing up for him in case they are shot down.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1185517814783848449
Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀 Retweeted
Jeremy Bamber
@FreeBamberNow
1h
Thrilled to announce that #JeremyBamber is front page of today's
@TheMirror
with a two page feature about the new call logs evidence inside.
Read the article and see the fresh evidence here:
https://jeremy-bamber.co.uk/case
@MatthewYoung7
@Bambertweets
@jbcampaignltd
@JBamberFacebook
Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀 Retweeted
Trudi Benjamin
@tru68
3h
Please RT!!
Nevill Bamber called the police at 03.26am and #JeremyBamber called the police at 03.36am as the tragedies unfolded at White House Farm on 07.08.85.
#NewEvidence
#Innocent
#34years
#injustice
https://jeremy-bamber.co.uk/case
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Mark Newby
@MarkNewbyqsj
1h
The Mirror Front Page
Jeremy Bamber's 'new evidence' that could free him after 33 years behind bars
The mass killer was jailed for shooting parents Nevill and June, model sister Sheila “Bambi” Caffell, and her six-year-old twin sons Daniel and Nicholas at White House Farm, Essex, in August 1985
mirror.co.uk
https://mobile.twitter.com/MarkNewbyqsj/status/1185482009419943936
Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
Replying to
@MarkNewbyqsj
and
@tru68
After 33 years this is a huge step forward. Thanks for everything you are doing for this man, who has had a complete character assassination done on him, meaning if one stands up for him, one is likely to be maligned and shot down.
#StandAgainstInjustice
11:16 AM · Oct 19, 2019·Twitter for iPad
https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1185499875695300608
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The CT need to say why Nevill would ring the sixth furthest away police station. Which was over 21 miles away.
Bamber eventually said he did because he 'didn't think it would make any difference to how quickly the police arrived'. I can't say that's the strangest reason ever for such a decision. As no one had ever made this decision before.
Surely Nevill would not have had the same reason.
But as said, this is properganda to create maximum publicity prior to the TV series. As recently said there is unlikely to be another CCRC application, if there is it needs to be going for a technicality.
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Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
Replying to
@MarkNewbyqsj
and
@tru68
After 33 years this is a huge step forward. Thanks for everything you are doing for this man, who has had a complete character assassination done on him, meaning if one stands up for him, one is likely to be maligned and shot down.
#StandAgainstInjustice
11:16 AM · Oct 19, 2019·Twitter for iPad
https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1185499875695300608
Mark Newby claimed in 2015 re Barry George/compensation
“Barry George could not achieve compensation because his case went all the way to re-trial and therefore the Court was able to conclude that there was evidence for a properly directed jury to consider.
The above is an example of Mark Newby’s interpretation of why Barry George wasn’t compensated
And re his latest interpretation:
Mark Newby said: “The evidence strongly suggests the chain of events could not have been what the prosecution alleged.”
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Mark Newby claimed in 2015 re Barry George/compensation
“Barry George could not achieve compensation because his case went all the way to re-trial and therefore the Court was able to conclude that there was evidence for a properly directed jury to consider.
The above is an example of Mark Newby’s interpretation of why Barry George wasn’t compensated
And re his latest interpretation:
Mark Newby said: “The evidence strongly suggests the chain of events could not have been what the prosecution alleged.”
Mark Newby also stated in 2015:
“Of course the fundamental problem with a system that never admits mistakes is that it is in a downward spiral – organisations that cannot admit fault in the end will become failing organisations.
and
“The CCRC remains under funded, delays are wholly unacceptable and there remains a lack of dialogue and accountability for CCRC decisions”
”Accountability for CCRC decisions
Will be interesting to see if Mark Newby, the CCRC or a n other answer the following:
Has anyone imagined the consequences if the COA had overturned Simon Hall’s conviction for murder following the CCRC’s referral in 2009?
How many murder convictions have been overturned on “technicalities” as opposed to factual innocence?
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Mark Newby claimed in 2015 re Barry George/compensation
“Barry George could not achieve compensation because his case went all the way to re-trial and therefore the Court was able to conclude that there was evidence for a properly directed jury to consider.
The above is an example of Mark Newby’s interpretation of why Barry George wasn’t compensated
And re his latest interpretation:
Mark Newby said: “The evidence strongly suggests the chain of events could not have been what the prosecution alleged.”
”In May this year, Bamber’s lawyer Mark Newby received a letter from Frank Ferguson, head of special crimes at the CPS. He had written to the prosecutors’ office on the issue of two silencers being examined in the case but the jury only being told about one.
Although Ferguson stated “there is no documentary evidence either provided or referred to which supports the existence of a second silencer”, he added: “Any evidence that suggests that there was or may have been another silencer for the rifle would raise the possibility that the other silencer was used during the shooting and not the one alleged by the prosecution.
“Such a possibility would significantly undermine the case against JB [Jeremy Bamber] and any material supporting such a possibility would plainly be material which casts doubt on the safety of the conviction.”
Now Bamber believes he has the evidence to undermine the case against him. Writing to the Guardian from Wakefield prison, Bamber said: “The report in the hands of the CPS proves with absolute certainty that this case featured two silencers. And now the CPS must act. There are moments in life when the truth can no longer be suppressed and this is one of those times.”
Newby, a solicitor advocate from Quality Solicitors Jordans, said: “I hope this report will persuade the CPS to now authorise the handing over of all the undisclosed material still held by Essex police in this case.”
A spokesperson for the CPS said: “We have received correspondence relating to this case and requested additional material in order to respond to the points raised.”
An Essex Police spokesperson said: “Essex Police has no comment to make on these claims given that Jeremy Bamber’s conviction has been the subject of several appeals and reviews by the Criminal Cases Review Commission and there has never been anything to suggest that he was wrongly convicted.”
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/21/scientists-report-casts-doubt-on-jeremy-bamber-trial-evidence?__twitter_impression=true
Simon Hall was found guilty and convicted to life on the basis of the prosecutions argument being he murdered his victim following a burglary gone wrong. However it turned out this interpretation and indeed flawed argument was not the motivating factor for why he chose to murder and there was/is evidence to support the fact the murder was sexually motivated.
So when Mark Newby claims, “The evidence strongly suggests the chain of events could not have been what the prosecution alleged,” in the Bamber case he really ought to consider the Hall case imo.
Do Jeremy Bamber supporters really believe his full life tariff will be overturned on technicalities like the above?
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Here we go again, it must be getting near to Christmas?
Jeremy Bamber's 'new evidence' that could free him after 33 years behind bars
EXCLUSIVE The mass killer was jailed for shooting parents Nevill and June, model sister Sheila “Bambi” Caffell, and her six-year-old twin sons Daniel and Nicholas at White House Farm, Essex, in August 1985.
By Matthew Young
Published 18 October 2019
Mass murderer Jeremy Bamber claims he has unearthed phone call evidence that could set him free, 33 years after he was jailed for slaughtering his family.
Bamber, 58, has found a phone log he says proves he did not shoot parents Nevill and June, model sister Sheila “Bambi” Caffell, and her six-year-old twin sons Daniel and Nicholas in August 1985.
Bamber is serving a full life tariff for the massacre at White House Farm in Essex.
His legal team say a police record referring to a call made by Bamber on the night of the White House Farm massacre in 1985 proves he was not there at the time and could form the basis of an appeal.
They say it backs up the theory that Bamber’s sister Sheila Caffell, 26, murdered their parents Nevill and June, both 61, then shot her own sons, twins Nicholas and Daniel, six, before killing herself.
Bamber’s lawyer Mark Newby said: “The evidence strongly suggests the chain of events could not have been what the prosecution alleged.”
The phone call evidence forms one element of a huge bundle Bamber’s team will soon submit to the Criminal Case Review Commission.
The previously unseen police document appears to back up Bamber’s story that two calls were made to police on the night of the murders, one from his father and one from him after Nevill rang saying Sheila had “gone crazy”.
At his trial, the prosecution said only one call was made to police – from Jeremy Bamber at 3.26am from the crime scene, White House Farm in Tolleshunt D’Arcy, Essex. But the new document describes a call to police from Jeremy Bamber timed at “approx 3.37am”.
His legal team argue it shows Bamber could not have made the 3.26am call from the farm and returned to his home 3.5 miles away in Goldhanger to make the second call.
The “3.37am” note came from an interview with a PC Myall, of Essex Police, during the Dickinson Inquiry into the force’s handling of the case after Bamber’s conviction in November 1986.
The note was found by Bamber among thousands of police documents released to him in 2011.
PC Myall is noted as telling Dickinson: “We received a telephone call at the P.Stn (Police Station, Witham).
"The officer (PC West) at CD Control (Chelmsford) was on the phone and told us that he was relating information to us and still had the informant (Jeremy Bamber) on the other telephone.”
The trial judge had instructed the jury to disregard Bamber’s claims that he had called police from his home at 3.36am.
And prosecutors told the trial Bamber had invented the call from Nevill to lay the blame on schizophrenic Sheila, known as Bambi when she worked as a model.
Bamber was convicted by a 10-2 majority of murdering his family to claim a £436,000 inheritance.
He was initially sentenced to five life sentences, to serve a minimum 25 years, but that was increased to a whole life tariff in 1994.
The Mirror revealed in 2010 how lost phone logs showed it was Nevill who called police at 3.26am.
A further record submitted to the Criminal Case Review Commission in 2010 showed a 3.36am call to police from Jeremy Bamber.
But the CCRC ruled the 3.36am call was noted in error and that there was just one call, from Jeremy not Nevill, made at 3.26am from White House Farm scene.
The new “3.37am” note is said to prove the existence of the second call.
ITV last week announced a drama about the murders next year, with Freddie Fox as Bamber, who is in Wakefield jail, West Yorkshire.
Bamber was famously pictured with girlfriend Julie Mugford, 21, struggling to contain his grief walking behind his parents’ coffins at their funeral.
After Julie found he had cheated on her, she told police Bamber had talked of hiring a hitman to kill his parents.
A blood-stained silencer was also found at the farm by Bamber’s cousin.
Bamber’s team say they now have evidence of two silencers examined by police, both believed to contain blood that could belong to Sheila or now-deceased cousin Robert Boutflour.
They say a forensic report has been given to the CPS about this evidence. Bamber believes police always had evidence that would have cleared him, but failed to disclose it at his trial, his first appeal in 1989 or second in 2002.
Between 2004 and 2011, Bamber made three CCRC submissions in a failed attempt to get his case back to the Court of Appeal. He has also made appeals against his whole life tariff.
Essex Police said: “There has never been anything to suggest that he was wrongly convicted.” But Bamber’s lawyer is now hopeful of a new appeal.
Mr Newby said: “The phone call information is consistent with what Jeremy Bamber always said. It is part of a package of evidence that should lead to a positive review for Jeremy.
“It’s fair to say when we go back to the CCRC we will have a pretty strong package which we hope they will refer to the Court of Appeal. We hope we will get it across the line.
“If we do, it is probably this country’s greatest ever miscarriage of justice.”
The case against
The prosecution said Bamber, then 24, had cycled to White House Farm and got in via an insecure window before murdering his family.
Girlfriend Julie Mugford said Bamber had planned the killings and had phoned her, saying: “Tonight’s the night.”
A silencer found three days later had Sheila’s blood inside. Prosecutors said she could hardly have put it back in the cupboard if she had lready killed herself with it.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-bambers-new-evidence-could-20651305
https://mobile.twitter.com/jbcampaignltd/status/1185511049107312642
Does Mark Newby think the CCRC would accept a similar type “package” re the Simon Hall case and refer his conviction to the COA posthumously?
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Mark Newby also stated in 2015:
“Of course the fundamental problem with a system that never admits mistakes is that it is in a downward spiral – organisations that cannot admit fault in the end will become failing organisations.
Sandra Lean stated; “There were discussions about possible revisions which would, of necessity, have taken a great deal of time and effort time and effort that I was not capable of devoting to the matter at that time”
What a mess
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Mark Newby
@MarkNewbyqsj
The Mirror Front Page
Jeremy Bamber's 'new evidence' that could free him after 33 years behind bars
The mass killer was jailed for shooting parents Nevill and June, model sister Sheila “Bambi” Caffell, and her six-year-old twin sons Daniel and Nicholas at White House Farm, Essex, in August 1985
mirror.co.uk
William Beck
@WullieBeck
1h
This is one of the most disturbing miscarriages of just we have ever seen.
Time all the evidence was released to his defence team to allow justice to be seen to be done.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1185499875695300608
Trudi Benjamin Retweeted
anotherview
@anotherview16
This needs to be thoroughly re investigated - too much evidence withheld by the police and prosecution at the trial to make this a safe conviction, without complete reinvestigation. Mistakes like this have happened too often before
https://mobile.twitter.com/anotherview16/status/1185164298290634752
Was the Simon Hall case “a safe conviction?”
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Mark Newby
@MarkNewbyqsj
The Mirror Front Page
Jeremy Bamber's 'new evidence' that could free him after 33 years behind bars
The mass killer was jailed for shooting parents Nevill and June, model sister Sheila “Bambi” Caffell, and her six-year-old twin sons Daniel and Nicholas at White House Farm, Essex, in August 1985
mirror.co.uk
William Beck
@WullieBeck
1h
This is one of the most disturbing miscarriages of just we have ever seen.
Time all the evidence was released to his defence team to allow justice to be seen to be done.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1185499875695300608
Trudi Benjamin Retweeted
anotherview
@anotherview16
This needs to be thoroughly re investigated - too much evidence withheld by the police and prosecution at the trial to make this a safe conviction, without complete reinvestigation. Mistakes like this have happened too often before
https://mobile.twitter.com/anotherview16/status/1185164298290634752
Was the Simon Hall case “a safe conviction?”
Many con artists have featured on the front page of the Mirror
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It's complete horseshit and I have a document from Bamber obviously knocked up by the CT arguing the complete opposite!
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It's complete horseshit and I have a document from Bamber obviously knocked up by the CT arguing the complete opposite!
No amount of intellectual dishonesty will see Bamber’s convictions appealed nor indeed over turned!
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No amount of intellectual dishonesty will see Bamber’s convictions appealed nor indeed over turned!
This sin't even intellectual! Total publicity stunt!
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Michael Naughton is attempting to “Empower the innocent”
Trudi Benjamin is retweeting Patron Peter Tatchell, who one of Luke Mitchell’s main supporters Scott Forbes refers to as a “peodophile”
then there was this from last November https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6374467/Peter-Tatchell-forced-deny-advocating-paedophilia-1997-letter.html
Trudi Benjamin Retweeted
Peter Tatchell
@PeterTatchell
3h
Another miscarriage of justice? #JeremyBamber's 'new evidence' could free him after 33 years behind bars. Essex police accused of withholding evidence that may cast doubt on the safety of his conviction: https://mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-bambers-new-evidence-could-20651305?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar… FOLLOW
@JeremyBamber
@jbcampaignltd
@Bambertweets
She’s also retweeting in support of Tom Watson
Trudi Benjamin Retweeted
Tom Watson
@tom_watson
·
2h
Johnson must comply with the law. His deal will make us poorer and degrade environmental and workers’ rights. He cannot force this through by threatening a disastrous No Deal. The only way to finally and fairly resolve this and bring the country together is through a #PeoplesVote
and indeed Keri Starmer
Trudi Benjamin Retweeted
Keir Starmer
@Keir_Starmer
7h
Five reasons to #VoteTheDealDown
❌ Rules out a Customs Union
❌ Rejects a close Single Market relationship
❌ Risks a no deal crash out at the end of 2020
❌ Does not address concerns about security and cooperation
❌ You can’t trust Boris Johnson
Of course she can tweet and retweet till her hearts content but her views aren’t going down too well by those people with opposing views, especially those who followed the Carl Beech case.
I suspect many individuals, especially those who are fighting and campaigning for alleged false allegations of HSA see someone like Trudi Benjamin as out of touch.
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This sin't even intellectual! Total publicity stunt!
....propaganda as Adam has already pointed out!
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This sin't even intellectual! Total publicity stunt!
https://www.usadailynews.site/2019/10/19/jeremy-bambers-new-evidence-that-could-free-him-after-33-years-behind-bars/
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Michael Naughton is attempting to “Empower the innocent”
Trudi Benjamin is retweeting Patron Peter Tatchell, who one of Luke Mitchell’s main supporters Scott Forbes refers to as a “peodophile”
then there was this from last November https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6374467/Peter-Tatchell-forced-deny-advocating-paedophilia-1997-letter.html
Trudi Benjamin Retweeted
Peter Tatchell
@PeterTatchell
3h
Another miscarriage of justice? #JeremyBamber's 'new evidence' could free him after 33 years behind bars. Essex police accused of withholding evidence that may cast doubt on the safety of his conviction: https://mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-bambers-new-evidence-could-20651305?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar… FOLLOW
@JeremyBamber
@jbcampaignltd
@Bambertweets
She’s also retweeting in support of Tom Watson
Trudi Benjamin Retweeted
Tom Watson
@tom_watson
·
2h
Johnson must comply with the law. His deal will make us poorer and degrade environmental and workers’ rights. He cannot force this through by threatening a disastrous No Deal. The only way to finally and fairly resolve this and bring the country together is through a #PeoplesVote
and indeed Keri Starmer
Trudi Benjamin Retweeted
Keir Starmer
@Keir_Starmer
7h
Five reasons to #VoteTheDealDown
❌ Rules out a Customs Union
❌ Rejects a close Single Market relationship
❌ Risks a no deal crash out at the end of 2020
❌ Does not address concerns about security and cooperation
❌ You can’t trust Boris Johnson
Of course she can tweet and retweet till her hearts content but her views aren’t going down too well by those people with opposing views, especially those who followed the Carl Beech case.
I suspect many individuals, especially those who are fighting and campaigning for alleged false allegations of HSA see someone like Trudi Benjamin as out of touch.
But apparently:
Trudi Benjamin
@tru68
17m
It’s a long and exhausting road and we all at the #JeremyBamber Campaign stand in solidarity with those fighting injustice
https://mobile.twitter.com/tru68/status/1185558812176125952
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And according to Mike O’Brien
Mick Geen Retweeted
Michael O'Brien
@michael47478285
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33m
I hope those who doubted Jeremy will no eat humble pie this Evidence proves his innocence now SET HIM FREE.
https://mobile.twitter.com/michael47478285/status/1185614684524822528
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This sin't even intellectual! Total publicity stunt!
Jeremy Bamber murders: New evidence 'could lead to one of Britain's most notorious killers being freed'
The lawyers of the five-time killer say they are putting together a package to go to the Criminal Cases Review Commission.
Saturday 19 October 2019 18:13, UK
https://news.sky.com/story/jeremy-bamber-murders-new-evidence-could-lead-to-one-of-britains-most-notorious-killers-being-freed-11839617
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It's complete horseshit and I have a document from Bamber obviously knocked up by the CT arguing the complete opposite!
As if the CT have squandered an angry old woman's heating allowance on this monumental pile of bollocks. What a bunch of bandits. %56&
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Michael Naughton is attempting to “Empower the innocent”
Trudi Benjamin is retweeting Patron Peter Tatchell, who one of Luke Mitchell’s main supporters Scott Forbes refers to as a “peodophile”
then there was this from last November https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6374467/Peter-Tatchell-forced-deny-advocating-paedophilia-1997-letter.html
Trudi Benjamin Retweeted
Peter Tatchell
@PeterTatchell
3h
Another miscarriage of justice? #JeremyBamber's 'new evidence' could free him after 33 years behind bars. Essex police accused of withholding evidence that may cast doubt on the safety of his conviction: https://mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-bambers-new-evidence-could-20651305?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar… FOLLOW
@JeremyBamber
@jbcampaignltd
@Bambertweets
She’s also retweeting in support of Tom Watson
Trudi Benjamin Retweeted
Tom Watson
@tom_watson
·
2h
Johnson must comply with the law. His deal will make us poorer and degrade environmental and workers’ rights. He cannot force this through by threatening a disastrous No Deal. The only way to finally and fairly resolve this and bring the country together is through a #PeoplesVote
and indeed Keri Starmer
Trudi Benjamin Retweeted
Keir Starmer
@Keir_Starmer
7h
Five reasons to #VoteTheDealDown
❌ Rules out a Customs Union
❌ Rejects a close Single Market relationship
❌ Risks a no deal crash out at the end of 2020
❌ Does not address concerns about security and cooperation
❌ You can’t trust Boris Johnson
Of course she can tweet and retweet till her hearts content but her views aren’t going down too well by those people with opposing views, especially those who followed the Carl Beech case.
I suspect many individuals, especially those who are fighting and campaigning for alleged false allegations of HSA see someone like Trudi Benjamin as out of touch.
Yet the following excerpt is from Mark Newby’s 2012 speech (Given at the Richard Webster Memorial Lecture on the Danger of False Allegations in Society and their impact)
“Of Course the danger of false allegations has arisen for as long as human beings have lived together on this planet. Whilst I am no Bible basher it is worth that remembering that in Exodus 20:16 it was said:
“ You shall not bear false testimony against your neighbor “
If the idea is not new what we have seen over the last 30 or so years is a dangerous and harmful increase in false allegations where the state machinery has effectively become blinder to the dangers of false allegations.
Only latterly have we seen a spate of cases seeking to reverse the trend to which I will come to later.
Let us turn firstly to keep focused on the subject matter of this talk to the impact of false allegations on society and the current state of affairs we find ourselves in.
We have today a substantial imbalance in Society and the Spectre of Sexual Allegations has become nothing short of frenzy. Cases such as Savile and the Rochdale Abuse Cases feed into creating an atmosphere where all abuse allegations are almost assumed to be true without question.
The reality is that in modern society Salacious Sexual Allegations sell newspapers, they get Politicians votes, the allegations support a whole industry that has built up supporting the investigation and compensation of “victims of abuse”.
The perverse nature of the spectacle means that often the falsely accused and the genuine victim can become lost in the middle.
https://www.qualitysolicitors.com/jordans/news/2012/11/false-allegations-mark-newby-delivers-richard-webster-memorial-lecture
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Mark Newby
@MarkNewbyqsj
1h
The Mirror Front Page
Jeremy Bamber's 'new evidence' that could free him after 33 years behind bars
The mass killer was jailed for shooting parents Nevill and June, model sister Sheila “Bambi” Caffell, and her six-year-old twin sons Daniel and Nicholas at White House Farm, Essex, in August 1985
mirror.co.uk
https://mobile.twitter.com/MarkNewbyqsj/status/1185482009419943936
Jeremy Bamber Case - Statement Following Mirror Article
Posted on October 19, 2019
“Today a story appeared on the Front Page of the Mirror concerning the Case of Jeremy Bamber and this is our statement in relation to that
We confirm we act on behalf of Jeremy Bamber and have seen the article now published by the Mirror which we contributed to .
Further we can confirm that we are working with Jeremy's dedicated support team to build an extensive package of grounds including the evidence referred to in the Mirror so that we can provide the Criminal Cases Review Commission a set of grounds of appeal upon which it can make a swift referral back to the Court of Appeal .
That also relies upon obtaining further disclosure which is currently being sought .
This is a complex case and if successful would be one of the U.K.'s most notorious miscarriages of justice .
We do not propose therefore as Jeremy's legal team to further elaborate on the grounds to be advanced or other actions that may be imminent at this stage , however we expect to make a further statement in the coming weeks .
https://www.qualitysolicitors.com/jordans/news/2019/10/jeremy-bamber-case-statement-following-mirror-article
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6819.msg289086#msg289086
IMO Mark Newby is just the latest lawyer to fall under Bamber's spell. He too will realise in time how much of a fool he was.
Bamber's conviction will not be overturned because it is basically sound. All the evidence adds up to his involvement in the murders, whether he did it or facilitated someone else to do it is irrelevant imho.
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IMO Mark Newby is just the latest lawyer to fall under Bamber's spell. He too will realise in time how much of a fool he was.
Bamber's conviction will not be overturned because it is basically sound. All the evidence adds up to his involvement in the murders, whether he did it or facilitated someone else to do it is irrelevant imho.
Just seems a re-run of the silencer a little over 12 months ago.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/21/scientists-report-casts-doubt-on-jeremy-bamber-trial-evidence
Can someone wake me up please if/when something substantively new occurs. *&(+(+
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Just seems a re-run of the silencer a little over 12 months ago.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/21/scientists-report-casts-doubt-on-jeremy-bamber-trial-evidence
Can someone wake me up please if/when something substantively new occurs. *&(+(+
Jeremy Bamber relishes the notoriety. For their part, the MSM need to sell newspapers so promoting JB as the worst miscarriage of justice of all time sits well with that agenda. All total rubbish of course like much of what comes out of Fleet Street these days.
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Jeremy Bamber relishes the notoriety. For their part, the MSM need to sell newspapers so promoting JB as the worst miscarriage of justice of all time sits well with that agenda. All total rubbish of course like much of what comes out of Fleet Street these days.
Well I do believe JB is the worst moj post capital punishment but the idea a second silencer and/or claims of a phone call from NB are going to win it in COA isn't going to happen imo.
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A Bill Robertson left a customer review for Carol Ann Lee’s book here https://www.amazon.co.uk/review/RAIT0ALLFNUB9 in October 2015
Excerpt:
“One more example; how can you claim to write the definitive investigation without even mentioning that PC's Cracknell and Norcup were the first police officers to be sent to White House Farm by PC West at Chelmsford police station, five minutes before Jeremy telephoned the police. How can you not speculate why they drove there so slowly, taking 50 minutes to arrive? Perhaps they drove so slowly because they were responding to the call to PC West from Nevill Bamber and he did not convey any urgency in his phone call?
How about mentioning that there is unambiguous evidence that there are two different versions of PC West's incident recording message log; one clearly a forgery? Why not speculate on the reasons for needing to forge police documentation?
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A Bill Robertson left a customer review for Carol Ann Lee’s book here https://www.amazon.co.uk/review/RAIT0ALLFNUB9 in October 2015
Excerpt:
“One more example; how can you claim to write the definitive investigation without even mentioning that PC's Cracknell and Norcup were the first police officers to be sent to White House Farm by PC West at Chelmsford police station, five minutes before Jeremy telephoned the police. How can you not speculate why they drove there so slowly, taking 50 minutes to arrive? Perhaps they drove so slowly because they were responding to the call to PC West from Nevill Bamber and he did not convey any urgency in his phone call?
How about mentioning that there is unambiguous evidence that there are two different versions of PC West's incident recording message log; one clearly a forgery? Why not speculate on the reasons for needing to forge police documentation?
That last comment refers to the document Bamber sent me, in which he argues that West Perjured himself - now both Bill and Bamber argue that West's time is correct @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* - you couldn't make this up ...... oh! Hang on .....
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That last comment refers to the document Bamber sent me, in which he argues that West Perjured himself - now both Bill and Bamber argue that West's time is correct @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* - you couldn't make this up ...... oh! Hang on .....
Yep
And here’s Michael Naughton’s contribution
Empowering the Innocent Retweeted
Empowering the Innocent
@EmpowerInnocent
I have always supported the campaign for full disclosure so Jeremy Bamber’s claim of innocence can be fully investigated. If he is innocent this is appalling & surely represents a further nail in the coffin of the
@ccrcupdate as this could have & should have been found by them?
Quote Tweet
Mark Newby
@MarkNewbyqsj
· Oct 19
Our Statement on the Jeremy Bamber Case http://bit.ly/33Ky8oY
https://mobile.twitter.com/EmpowerInnocent/status/1186159525784707073
Wonder if Bamber has shared all previous CCRC submissions along with SOR’s with Mark Newby?
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Yep
And here’s Michael Naughton’s contribution
Empowering the Innocent Retweeted
Empowering the Innocent
@EmpowerInnocent
I have always supported the campaign for full disclosure so Jeremy Bamber’s claim of innocence can be fully investigated. If he is innocent this is appalling & surely represents a further nail in the coffin of the
@ccrcupdate as this could have & should have been found by them?
Quote Tweet
Mark Newby
@MarkNewbyqsj
· Oct 19
Our Statement on the Jeremy Bamber Case http://bit.ly/33Ky8oY
https://mobile.twitter.com/EmpowerInnocent/status/1186159525784707073
Wonder if Bamber has shared all previous CCRC submissions along with SOR’s with Mark Newby?
Reminds me of Eddie Gilfoyle
80. The Commission went on to analyse in some detail a number of potential relevant discrepancies in the accounts given by various persons, including the claimant over the years. Further, it said that the claimant had not raised the issue with his legal team at the time. The Commission said it was unclear why he was not capable of doing so, especially after 11 June 1993 once he was aware the court would intervene, and when he was capable of arguing with prison staff in reception in an attempt to get medication (as he claimed he had done in his 29-page statement to the Commission). In addition, in his most recent statement, the claimant described being in an extreme mental state whilst on remand before his trial, presumably, at a time when he was in receipt of regular medication; and this account was inconsistent with what was said about his mental state by Dr Tucker. Moreover, a number of arguably different reasons had been given as to why the claimant had chosen not to give evidence; and his submissions about his inability to follow proceedings at his trial and mental incapacity arguably conflicted with other statements made by him (indicating, in summary, attention to detail, and an ability to raise specifics with his legal team).
https://www.matrixlaw.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/R-Gilfoyle-v-Criminal-Cases-Review-Commission-2017-EWCA-Crim-3008.doc
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It's complete horseshit and I have a document from Bamber obviously knocked up by the CT arguing the complete opposite!
Does anyone know WHO influenced the media regarding the latest propaganda?
Where did the story start? The Mirror?
And who from the legal/CT team spoke with the original journalist who chose to run the story? Or was it Bamber himself?
Like with Carl Beech, someone somewhere pulled a few strings.. What's the motivating factor to peddle this nonsense?
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Jeremy Bamber relishes the notoriety. For their part, the MSM need to sell newspapers so promoting JB as the worst miscarriage of justice of all time sits well with that agenda. All total rubbish of course like much of what comes out of Fleet Street these days.
So according to Bamber Matthew Young was his enabler
Monday, 21 October 2019
Message from Jeremy Bamber
Jeremy would like to extend his appreciation to everyone who has contacted him and the campaign with kind messages of support following the front-page news article on Saturday the 19th of October, regarding the call logs evidence.
"It is these many of messages of support and goodwill I have received from you all that keeps me focused and determined to correct my wrongful and unlawful conviction. A big thank you also to Matthew Young and the Daily Mirror for enabling the public at large to read the truth about just one of the ways Essex Police, and the prosecution manipulated the case against me.
The public reaction to this new alibi evidence being released makes me smile knowing how much more evidence of my innocence has been uncovered on every aspect of my case which has yet to be put into the public arena.
I’m currently working hard with my legal and campaign team to achieve a referral to the Court of Appeal as soon as possible. I feel excited at what the future holds, and I will be able to share more news with you in the next few weeks."
Thank you all
Jeremy
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Does anyone know WHO influenced the media regarding the latest propaganda?
Where did the story start? The Mirror?
And who from the legal/CT team spoke with the original journalist who chose to run the story? Or was it Bamber himself?
Like with Carl Beech, someone somewhere pulled a few strings.. What's the motivating factor to peddle this nonsense?
The CT promoted it on Twitter and Bill Robertson promoted it on the blue forum - I suspect that it originated with the CT and anyone of them could have been responsible,
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So according to Bamber Matthew Young was his enabler
Monday, 21 October 2019
Message from Jeremy Bamber
Jeremy would like to extend his appreciation to everyone who has contacted him and the campaign with kind messages of support following the front-page news article on Saturday the 19th of October, regarding the call logs evidence.
"It is these many of messages of support and goodwill I have received from you all that keeps me focused and determined to correct my wrongful and unlawful conviction. A big thank you also to Matthew Young and the Daily Mirror for enabling the public at large to read the truth about just one of the ways Essex Police, and the prosecution manipulated the case against me.
The public reaction to this new alibi evidence being released makes me smile knowing how much more evidence of my innocence has been uncovered on every aspect of my case which has yet to be put into the public arena.
I’m currently working hard with my legal and campaign team to achieve a referral to the Court of Appeal as soon as possible. I feel excited at what the future holds, and I will be able to share more news with you in the next few weeks."
Thank you all
Jeremy
Matthew Young was the reporter but how could Bamber receive so many messages in such a sort time?
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Matthew Young was the reporter but how could Bamber receive so many messages in such a sort time?
Matthew Young was a reporter for the Daily Star before moving to the Mirror to cover maternity leave. Seems he stayed on after the 6 months https://www.responsesource.com/bulletin/news/matthew-young-set-switch-star-mirror/
I suspect his “minions/flying monkeys” https://www.aconsciousrethink.com/6891/avoid-flying-monkeys/ have helped him exaggerate?
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The CT promoted it on Twitter and Bill Robertson promoted it on the blue forum - I suspect that it originated with the CT and anyone of them could have been responsible,
Have only just seen this.
Yes, bottom line - seems Matthew Young has been duped
Bambers recent “message” is as see through as the rest of his psychopathic spiel
“Makes me smile”
“I feel excited”
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So, no sign anywhere of this miracle ‘new’ document? Btw. why does the Mirror think Bamber called the cops from WHF? No one on either side claims that, do they?
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Here we go again, it must be getting near to Christmas?
Jeremy Bamber's 'new evidence' that could free him after 33 years behind bars
EXCLUSIVE The mass killer was jailed for shooting parents Nevill and June, model sister Sheila “Bambi” Caffell, and her six-year-old twin sons Daniel and Nicholas at White House Farm, Essex, in August 1985.
By Matthew Young
Published 18 October 2019
Mass murderer Jeremy Bamber claims he has unearthed phone call evidence that could set him free, 33 years after he was jailed for slaughtering his family.
Bamber, 58, has found a phone log he says proves he did not shoot parents Nevill and June, model sister Sheila “Bambi” Caffell, and her six-year-old twin sons Daniel and Nicholas in August 1985.
Bamber is serving a full life tariff for the massacre at White House Farm in Essex.
His legal team say a police record referring to a call made by Bamber on the night of the White House Farm massacre in 1985 proves he was not there at the time and could form the basis of an appeal.
They say it backs up the theory that Bamber’s sister Sheila Caffell, 26, murdered their parents Nevill and June, both 61, then shot her own sons, twins Nicholas and Daniel, six, before killing herself.
Bamber’s lawyer Mark Newby said: “The evidence strongly suggests the chain of events could not have been what the prosecution alleged.”
The phone call evidence forms one element of a huge bundle Bamber’s team will soon submit to the Criminal Case Review Commission.
The previously unseen police document appears to back up Bamber’s story that two calls were made to police on the night of the murders, one from his father and one from him after Nevill rang saying Sheila had “gone crazy”.
At his trial, the prosecution said only one call was made to police – from Jeremy Bamber at 3.26am from the crime scene, White House Farm in Tolleshunt D’Arcy, Essex. But the new document describes a call to police from Jeremy Bamber timed at “approx 3.37am”.
His legal team argue it shows Bamber could not have made the 3.26am call from the farm and returned to his home 3.5 miles away in Goldhanger to make the second call.
The “3.37am” note came from an interview with a PC Myall, of Essex Police, during the Dickinson Inquiry into the force’s handling of the case after Bamber’s conviction in November 1986.
The note was found by Bamber among thousands of police documents released to him in 2011.
PC Myall is noted as telling Dickinson: “We received a telephone call at the P.Stn (Police Station, Witham).
"The officer (PC West) at CD Control (Chelmsford) was on the phone and told us that he was relating information to us and still had the informant (Jeremy Bamber) on the other telephone.”
The trial judge had instructed the jury to disregard Bamber’s claims that he had called police from his home at 3.36am.
And prosecutors told the trial Bamber had invented the call from Nevill to lay the blame on schizophrenic Sheila, known as Bambi when she worked as a model.
Bamber was convicted by a 10-2 majority of murdering his family to claim a £436,000 inheritance.
He was initially sentenced to five life sentences, to serve a minimum 25 years, but that was increased to a whole life tariff in 1994.
The Mirror revealed in 2010 how lost phone logs showed it was Nevill who called police at 3.26am.
A further record submitted to the Criminal Case Review Commission in 2010 showed a 3.36am call to police from Jeremy Bamber.
But the CCRC ruled the 3.36am call was noted in error and that there was just one call, from Jeremy not Nevill, made at 3.26am from White House Farm scene.
The new “3.37am” note is said to prove the existence of the second call.
ITV last week announced a drama about the murders next year, with Freddie Fox as Bamber, who is in Wakefield jail, West Yorkshire.
Bamber was famously pictured with girlfriend Julie Mugford, 21, struggling to contain his grief walking behind his parents’ coffins at their funeral.
After Julie found he had cheated on her, she told police Bamber had talked of hiring a hitman to kill his parents.
A blood-stained silencer was also found at the farm by Bamber’s cousin.
Bamber’s team say they now have evidence of two silencers examined by police, both believed to contain blood that could belong to Sheila or now-deceased cousin Robert Boutflour.
They say a forensic report has been given to the CPS about this evidence. Bamber believes police always had evidence that would have cleared him, but failed to disclose it at his trial, his first appeal in 1989 or second in 2002.
Between 2004 and 2011, Bamber made three CCRC submissions in a failed attempt to get his case back to the Court of Appeal. He has also made appeals against his whole life tariff.
Essex Police said: “There has never been anything to suggest that he was wrongly convicted.” But Bamber’s lawyer is now hopeful of a new appeal.
Mr Newby said: “The phone call information is consistent with what Jeremy Bamber always said. It is part of a package of evidence that should lead to a positive review for Jeremy.
“It’s fair to say when we go back to the CCRC we will have a pretty strong package which we hope they will refer to the Court of Appeal. We hope we will get it across the line.
“If we do, it is probably this country’s greatest ever miscarriage of justice.”
The case against
The prosecution said Bamber, then 24, had cycled to White House Farm and got in via an insecure window before murdering his family.
Girlfriend Julie Mugford said Bamber had planned the killings and had phoned her, saying: “Tonight’s the night.”
A silencer found three days later had Sheila’s blood inside. Prosecutors said she could hardly have put it back in the cupboard if she had lready killed herself with it.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-bambers-new-evidence-could-20651305
Jeremy Bamber: Missing police phone log could clear Bambi killer - Exclusive
By Jon Clements 5th Aug 2010
“Lawyers are examining a “lost” police phone log which they claim proves he was innocent of shooting dead five relatives.
The document backs his story that the 1985 Essex massacre was carried out by his “crazed” sister Sheila, known as Bambi.
Now Bamber, 49, is set to launch a fresh appeal against his life sentence.
One of the logs, previously unseen, suggests Bamber’s father Nevill called police on the night of the massacre at White House Farm in Essex.
The note written on August 7, 1985, is titled “daughter gone berserk” and timed at 3.26am – 10 minutes BEFORE a second note records Bamber’s own distress call.
It states: “Mr Bamber, White House Farm, Tolleshunt d’Arcy – daughter Sheila Bamber, aged 26 years, has got hold of one of my guns.” The message adds that “Mr Bamber has a collection of shotguns and .410s” and includes the correct phone number for White House Farm.
It also records that patrol car CA7 was despatched to the scene at 3.35am, one minute before Bamber rang from his cottage in nearby Goldhanger village.
The message is strikingly similar to the scenario Bamber has consistently claimed his 61-year-old father described to him.
Bamber rang Chelmsford police station at 3.36am, according to a second log also obtained by the Mirror. He told an officer: “You’ve got to help me. My father’s just phoned me, he said, ‘Please come over, your sister has gone crazy and has got the gun’.” The log has small but significant differences to the other note, indicating it relates to a different call.
It refers to Sheila as a “sister” who had gone “crazy” with a gun. And it records that another car, CA5, was separately sent to the farmhouse – again indicating the logs refer to different calls.
The documents are among 100,000 pieces of paper Bamber has sifted through in his prison cell at Full Sutton with the help of his lawyers and supporters.
Prosecutors told Bamber’s trial he invented the call from his father to lay the blame on his schizophrenic sister Sheila, a former model known as Bambi. The judge told jurors – never shown the earlier log – that the existence or not of 61-year-old Nevill’s call was crucial in determining the former public schoolboy’s guilt.
They found Bamber guilty of murdering Nevill, mum June, Sheila, and her twin six-year-old sons Nicholas and Daniel to claim a £436,000 inheritance.
He is currently serving a whole life tariff after being branded “evil almost beyond belief”.
The new evidence is being examined by the Criminal Cases Review Commission which will announce within weeks if Bamber is to have a third appeal. Senior figures at the CCRC are understood to harbour long-term doubts about the safety of his conviction which they have referred to appeal judges once before.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-bamber-missing-police-phone-239793
A Bill Robertson left a customer review for Carol Ann Lee’s book here https://www.amazon.co.uk/review/RAIT0ALLFNUB9 in October 2015
Excerpt:
“One more example; how can you claim to write the definitive investigation without even mentioning that PC's Cracknell and Norcup were the first police officers to be sent to White House Farm by PC West at Chelmsford police station, five minutes before Jeremy telephoned the police. How can you not speculate why they drove there so slowly, taking 50 minutes to arrive? Perhaps they drove so slowly because they were responding to the call to PC West from Nevill Bamber and he did not convey any urgency in his phone call?
How about mentioning that there is unambiguous evidence that there are two different versions of PC West's incident recording message log; one clearly a forgery? Why not speculate on the reasons for needing to forge police documentation?
24. In the early hours of Wednesday, 7 August the appellant telephoned Chelmsford Police Station on a direct line number as opposed to the 999 emergency call system and spoke to PC West. He said, "You've got to help me. My father has just rung me and said, "Please come over. Your sister has gone crazy and has got the gun." Then the line went dead". He explained that he had tried to ring his father back at White House Farm but he could not get a reply.
25. Using a radio link PC West contacted Malcolm Bonnet at the Chelmsford H/Q Information Room. PC West then spoke to the appellant again, who complained at the time the officer was taking. He said, "When my father rang he sounded terrified". The appellant was told to go to the farm and to wait there for the police. PC West described the appellant as sounding "very laconic" and calm during the first part of their conversation and said that there was no sense of urgency. When he spoke to him again the appellant appeared "more urgent and distressed in his manner".
26. PC West recorded the time of the appellant's call as 3.36 a.m. At trial it was accepted that the officer had misread a digital clock. The officer's contact with Mr Bonnett was recorded as being at 3.26 a.m. and it seems clear that the appellant's call must have been at 3.26 a.m. or very shortly before.
27. At 3.35 a.m., Mr Bonnet arranged for a police car to go to White House Farm. A check made by a British Telecom operator of the telephone line to the farm was made at 4.30 a.m. The receiver was off the hook and all the operator could hear was the sound of a dog barking.
The arrival of the police at White House Farm 28. PS Bews, PC Myall and PC Saxby drove from Witham Police Station passing the appellant in his car on their way to the farm. He was travelling at a speed very much slower than their vehicle. Ann Eaton's evidence was that the appellant was normally "a very, very fast driver". The appellant's car arrived at the farmhouse 1-2 minutes after the police vehicle.
29. The appellant told the officers about the telephone call from his father, adding that it sounded as though someone had cut him off. When asked if it was possible that his sister was inside with a gun he said yes. He told the police that he did not get on with her. He was asked if it was likely that his sister had gone berserk with a gun and he replied, "I don't really know. She is a nutter. She's been having treatment." When asked why his father had called him and not the police, he said that his father was not the sort of person to get "organisations" involved, preferring to keep things within the family. When asked why he had not dialled 999, the appellant said he did not think it would make any difference to the time it would have taken for the police to arrive.
http://www.homepage-link.to/justice/judgements/Bamber/index.html
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JB's back will be up against the wall now more than ever with the recent appointment of Tory MP Priti Patel to Home Sec who many describe as 'hard right'. PP has in the past been critical of JB's efforts to use the media to air his views and overturn his conviction. She is also supportive of his extended family. In theory none of this should affect the rise or fall of any CCRC app/CoA hearing but I wouldn't mind betting it will!
https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/8388603.why-was-killer-bamber-given-access-to-media/
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JB's back will be up against the wall now more than ever with the recent appointment of Tory MP Priti Patel to Home Sec who many describe as 'hard right'. PP has in the past been critical of JB's efforts to use the media to air his views and overturn his conviction. She is also supportive of his extended family. In theory none of this should affect the rise or fall of any CCRC app/CoA hearing but I wouldn't mind betting it will!
https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/8388603.why-was-killer-bamber-given-access-to-media/
His back was “up against the wall” the moment his lies were unravelled by Essex police and they recognised he’d attempted to con them all by manipulating them into believing his sister was guilty of the crimes he’d committed!
The CCRC will have records of all Bamber’s previous BS and like in the Eddie Gilfoyle case will recognise the discrepancies in his stories.
Priti Patel doesn’t come into it!
“When asked why his father had called him and not the police, he said that his father was not the sort of person to get "organisations" involved, preferring to keep things within the family.”
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His back was “up against the wall” the moment his lies were unravelled by Essex police and they recognised he’d attempted to con them all by manipulating them into believing his sister was guilty of the crimes he’d committed!
The CCRC will have records of all Bamber’s previous BS and like in the Eddie Gilfoyle case will recognise the discrepancies in his stories.
Priti Patel doesn’t come into it!
“When asked why his father had called him and not the police, he said that his father was not the sort of person to get "organisations" involved, preferring to keep things within the family.”
A former home secretary has come into it ie Michael Howard who increased JB's prison sentence, set by the trial judge, from 25 years to whole life.
Priti Patel has in the past been a proponent of capital punishment!
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That should be Douglas Hurd in 1988, priti pussy.
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I joined this forum or the other one a few years ago. When I tried to sign in last night, I couldn't, so have re-registered. I can't believe the media is still giving this lowlife credibility.
Can someone tell me who is behind the Blue Forum and what is its purpose? I think I know but would like it confirmed.
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That should be Douglas Hurd in 1988, priti pussy.
Pretty please I beg to differ. I think it was DH who ordered a review of policing in general following the initial investigation which found SC was responsible and MH who increased JB's sentence?
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Pretty please I beg to differ. I think it was DH who ordered a review of policing in general following the initial investigation which found SC was responsible and MH who increased JB's sentence?
Hurd also introduced the Whole Life Tariff in 1988, for others as well as Bamber, but failed to inform him (or them). So it was left to Howard to drop the bombshell six years later.
From QC Edward Fitzgerald's 2016 lecture, "Life Without Parole":
2.1. The idea that someone must serve their whole life in prison as punishment for the offence of murder first emerged in 1988. It was not until 1994 that Michael Howard acknowledged the existence of a category of life sentence prisoners who had whole life tariffs.
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... and from Wiki:
In December 1994, Home Secretary Michael Howard (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Howard) told Bamber that he would remain in prison for the rest of his life, following a decision by the home secretary of the day, Douglas Hurd. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Hurd)
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Thanks Myster.
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Roch states here: http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10006.msg458017.html?PHPSESSID=jii1sjp96lmd3l88tuiqmjes67#msg458017 (http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10006.msg458017.html?PHPSESSID=jii1sjp96lmd3l88tuiqmjes67#msg458017)
David, how about this...
After taking over the case from a previous standpoint where Sheila Caffell was implicated - and a casefile of evidence had been assembled supporting this conclusion
In order to prosecute Jeremy Bamber, Ainsley has to:
[1] Coordinate and lead a fresh round of statement taking, including altering or burying some previous statements, that were taken prior to him taking over the case?
[2] Not have to coordinate or lead a fresh round of statement taking. Not have to alter or bury any previous statements that were taken prior to him taking over the case?
1 = conspiracy
2 = ?
It's impossible to pinpoint why police would sacrifice a person they either knew to be innocent or suspected was likely innocent. Some police officers clearly favoured the relatives and empathised with their pleas, regarding their perceived 'plight'. It's possible that the patriarch of the relatives had got wind of some info via an informal channel. For example, things not stacking up in relation the TFG op, the positioning of bodies, 'informatives' coming in to carry out training - who knows.
But once the deputy head ordered that the attention should be turned on to JB, the culture at that time was for subordinates to be expected to fall in line and follow suit. in these circs... if those officers now 'on the up' happened to be the same officers who had a cosy relationship with the relatives...
conspiracy
/kənˈspɪrəsi/
noun
a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.
Why does Roch refer to Essex police as having carried out a conspiracy?
There wasn’t a secret plan to go after Bamber!
The police recognised they’d been duped. Bamber’s discrepancies didn’t add up. The evidence in totality pointed toward Jeremy Bamber having been responsible for the murders and not his sister.
”In order to prosecute Jeremy Bamber, Ainsley has to:” Who prosecuted Bamber?
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Roch states here: http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10006.msg458017.html?PHPSESSID=jii1sjp96lmd3l88tuiqmjes67#msg458017 (http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10006.msg458017.html?PHPSESSID=jii1sjp96lmd3l88tuiqmjes67#msg458017)
David, how about this...
After taking over the case from a previous standpoint where Sheila Caffell was implicated - and a casefile of evidence had been assembled supporting this conclusion
In order to prosecute Jeremy Bamber, Ainsley has to:
[1] Coordinate and lead a fresh round of statement taking, including altering or burying some previous statements, that were taken prior to him taking over the case?
[2] Not have to coordinate or lead a fresh round of statement taking. Not have to alter or bury any previous statements that were taken prior to him taking over the case?
1 = conspiracy
2 = ?
It's impossible to pinpoint why police would sacrifice a person they either knew to be innocent or suspected was likely innocent. Some police officers clearly favoured the relatives and empathised with their pleas, regarding their perceived 'plight'. It's possible that the patriarch of the relatives had got wind of some info via an informal channel. For example, things not stacking up in relation the TFG op, the positioning of bodies, 'informatives' coming in to carry out training - who knows.
But once the deputy head ordered that the attention should be turned on to JB, the culture at that time was for subordinates to be expected to fall in line and follow suit. in these circs... if those officers now 'on the up' happened to be the same officers who had a cosy relationship with the relatives...
conspiracy
/kənˈspɪrəsi/
noun
a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.
Why does Roch refer to Essex police as having carried out a conspiracy?
There wasn’t a secret plan to go after Bamber!
The police recognised they’d been duped. Bamber’s discrepancies didn’t add up. The evidence in totality pointed toward Jeremy Bamber having been responsible for the murders and not his sister.
”In order to prosecute Jeremy Bamber, Ainsley has to:” Who prosecuted Bamber?
“In order to prosecute Jeremy Bamber, Ainsley has to:
[1] Coordinate and lead a fresh round of statement taking, including altering or burying some previous statements, that were taken prior to him taking over the case?
[2] Not have to coordinate or lead a fresh round of statement taking. Not have to alter or bury any previous statements that were taken prior to him taking over the case?
1 = conspiracy
2 = ?
Why would Ainsley have had to alter or bury some previous statements?
It’s unlikely any of the paperwork related to the original investigation and belief of Sheila having been responsible were ever altered or indeed buried.
I find it interesting Roch has chosen to use the word bury as opposed to not disclosed.
Aren’t these the documents Bamber has attempted to obtain from the police?
Could 2 be:
Live with the cognitive dissonance and allow a guilty man to get away with mass murder?
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“In order to prosecute Jeremy Bamber, Ainsley has to:
[1] Coordinate and lead a fresh round of statement taking, including altering or burying some previous statements, that were taken prior to him taking over the case?
[2] Not have to coordinate or lead a fresh round of statement taking. Not have to alter or bury any previous statements that were taken prior to him taking over the case?
1 = conspiracy
2 = ?
Why would Ainsley have had to alter or bury some previous statements?
It’s unlikely any of the paperwork related to the original investigation and belief of Sheila having been responsible were ever altered or indeed buried.
I find it interesting Roch has chosen to use the word bury as opposed to not disclosed.
Aren’t these the documents Bamber has attempted to obtain from the police?
Could 2 be:
Live with the cognitive dissonance and allow a guilty man to get away with mass murder?
“We have a scene of a crime which has been very cunningly arranged because he was a cunning man”
“The officers misdirected themselves I’m prepared to admit that”
Ron Stone Essex Deputy Chief Constable
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/minimal-entry-england-essex-int-ron-stone-essex-deputy-news-footage/1131166387?adppopup=true&uiloc=thumbnail_more_search_results_adp&uiloc=thumbnail_more_search_results_adp&uiloc=thumbnail_more_search_results_adp&uiloc=thumbnail_more_search_results_adp&uiloc=thumbnail_more_search_results_adp&uiloc=thumbnail_more_search_results_adp&uiloc=thumbnail_more_search_results_adp&uiloc=thumbnail_more_search_results_adp&uiloc=thumbnail_more_search_results_adp&uiloc=thumbnail_more_search_results_adp&uiloc=thumbnail_more_search_results_adp&uiloc=thumbnail_more_search_results_adp
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Jeremy Bamber relishes the notoriety. For their part, the MSM need to sell newspapers so promoting JB as the worst miscarriage of justice of all time sits well with that agenda. All total rubbish of course like much of what comes out of Fleet Street these days.
Last May Mark Newby wrote an article which was published in the justice gap, ironically, given the Barry George case as one example, he stated:
“No one wants to see a conviction overturned on technical grounds compensated”
But then I’m unsure if he’s ever supported Barry George’s claim for compensation?
https://www.thejusticegap.com/the-court-of-appeal-needs-to-acknowledge-miscarriages-of-justice-and-ensure-that-they-dont-occur-in-the-future/
Mark Newby: United Against Injustice Conference Speech 10th October 2015
“It should also be remembered that the test in Ali and Others was not a generous one so for example Barry George could not achieve compensation because his case went all the way to re-trial and therefore the Court was able to conclude that there was evidence for a properly directed jury to consider.
https://www.qualitysolicitors.com/jordans/news/2015/10/united-against-injustice-conference-speech-mark-newby
https://www.unitedagainstinjustice.com/conference-2015 Doesn’t look like Michelle Diskin Bates attended that conference?
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Last May Mark Newby wrote an article which was published in the justice gap, ironically, given the Barry George case as one example, he stated:
“No one wants to see a conviction overturned on technical grounds compensated”
But then I’m unsure if he’s ever supported Barry George’s claim for compensation?
https://www.thejusticegap.com/the-court-of-appeal-needs-to-acknowledge-miscarriages-of-justice-and-ensure-that-they-dont-occur-in-the-future/
Mark Newby: United Against Injustice Conference Speech 10th October 2015
“It should also be remembered that the test in Ali and Others was not a generous one so for example Barry George could not achieve compensation because his case went all the way to re-trial and therefore the Court was able to conclude that there was evidence for a properly directed jury to consider.
https://www.qualitysolicitors.com/jordans/news/2015/10/united-against-injustice-conference-speech-mark-newby
https://www.unitedagainstinjustice.com/conference-2015 Doesn’t look like Michelle Diskin Bates attended that conference?
It’s blatantly obvious what Mark Newby appears to be attempting to achieve re the Bamber case and it has nothing to do with true justice
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It’s blatantly obvious what Mark Newby appears to be attempting to achieve re the Bamber case and it has nothing to do with true justice
Convicted murderer Kevin Nunn who maintains innocence (Because imo he’s too much of a coward to confess his guilt to his family) takes his case to the Supreme Court.
Supreme Court’s judgment in Nunn a “disaster” that reinforced difficulties getting exhibits, says Mark Newby
https://mobile.twitter.com/C4CrimAppeals/status/964528097327566848
So he attempts to ‘address the balance’ using the Bamber case (Of all cases?) via a JR
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So he attempts to ‘address the balance’ using the Bamber case (Of all cases?) via a JR
Last year, the then director of public prosecutions, Alison Saunders, published a revised version of CPS disclosure manual. Saunders concluded: “To maintain public confidence in the criminal justice system, it is essential that the relevant disclosure regime is complied with in every case and all duties performed to a high standard. I hope this manual will continue to offer practical guidance to practitioners and give the lay reader a degree of reassurance that the prosecution team is fully committed to meeting its obligations in this hugely important area.”
Mark Newby, a solicitor advocate from QualitySolicitors Jordans, which represents Bamber, said: “It is disappointing that the CPS has not agreed to provide material that is needed by an independent expert to support the overwhelming inference that a second silencer was examined during the police and forensic science service investigations. We hope that this can quickly be resolved so that the expert can get on with his job and the case can be put back before the court of appeal in order to correct this very grave miscarriage of justice.”
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/dec/08/jeremy-bamber-lawyers-challenge-cps-over-withheld-evidence
REGINA V BLACKBURN (Paul)
Mr Owen QC submits that the court must judge that issue in the light of current standards of fairness and of our present knowledge of the phenomenon of false confessions. He refers to a number of authorities to that effect, including Roberts (unreported, 19th March 1998) and Abid Hussain [2005] EWCA Crim 31.The point was made in the latter case at paragraph 28 that, where there was a breach of the rules in force at the time of trial, the significance of that breach is to be assessed according to the present-day approach.
Are Bamber’s chances of succeeding in a JR against the DPP and setting a precedent (re disclosure) realistic?
According to his barrister
Unwinnable” Cases Can Be Won
Michelle Diskin Bates retweets a CT ‘slogan’
‘Tell a lie once and all your truths become questionable
https://mobile.twitter.com/Bambertweets/status/1221092250249236482
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Are Bamber’s chances of succeeding in a JR against the DPP and setting a precedent (re disclosure) realistic?
According to his barrister
Michelle Diskin Bates retweets a CT ‘slogan’
‘Tell a lie once and all your truths become questionable
https://mobile.twitter.com/Bambertweets/status/1221092250249236482 (https://mobile.twitter.com/Bambertweets/status/1221092250249236482)
That's my aphorism they've stolen, and it fits Bamber to T.
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Convicted murderer Kevin Nunn who maintains innocence (Because imo he’s too much of a coward to confess his guilt to his family) takes his case to the Supreme Court.
So he attempts to ‘address the balance’ using the Bamber case (Of all cases?) via a JR
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It's complete horseshit and I have a document from Bamber obviously knocked up by the CT arguing the complete opposite!
The following is from Norman Edward Gilfoyle v Criminal Cases Review Commission judgement (24/11/2017)
80. The Commission went on to analyse in some detail a number of potential relevant discrepancies in the accounts given by various persons, including the claimant over the years. Further, it said that the claimant had not raised the issue with his legal team at the time. The Commission said it was unclear why he was not capable of doing so,
https://www.matrixlaw.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/R-Gilfoyle-v-Criminal-Cases-Review-Commission-2017-EWCA-Crim-3008.doc
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May 2017
‘We cannot understand why he was charged with murder”: family of man, 87, accused of murdering wife speak out
https://www.huntspost.co.uk/news/we-cannot-understand-why-he-was-charged-with-murder-family-of-man-87-accused-of-murdering-wife-speak-out-1-5001886
Sept 2018
”In May this year, Bamber’s lawyer Mark Newby received a letter from Frank Ferguson, head of special crimes at the CPS. He had written to the prosecutors’ office on the issue of two silencers being examined in the case but the jury only being told about one.
Although Ferguson stated “there is no documentary evidence either provided or referred to which supports the existence of a second silencer”, he added: “Any evidence that suggests that there was or may have been another silencer for the rifle would raise the possibility that the other silencer was used during the shooting and not the one alleged by the prosecution.
“Such a possibility would significantly undermine the case against JB [Jeremy Bamber] and any material supporting such a possibility would plainly be material which casts doubt on the safety of the conviction.”
Now Bamber believes he has the evidence to undermine the case against him. Writing to the Guardian from Wakefield prison, Bamber said: “The report in the hands of the CPS proves with absolute certainty that this case featured two silencers. And now the CPS must act. There are moments in life when the truth can no longer be suppressed and this is one of those times.”
Newby, a solicitor advocate from Quality Solicitors Jordans, said: “I hope this report will persuade the CPS to now authorise the handing over of all the undisclosed material still held by Essex police in this case.”
A spokesperson for the CPS said: “We have received correspondence relating to this case and requested additional material in order to respond to the points raised.”
An Essex Police spokesperson said: “Essex Police has no comment to make on these claims given that Jeremy Bamber’s conviction has been the subject of several appeals and reviews by the Criminal Cases Review Commission and there has never been anything to suggest that he was wrongly convicted.”
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/21/scientists-report-casts-doubt-on-jeremy-bamber-trial-evidence?__twitter_impression=true
July 2019
”The High Court has expressed concern about how much care the Crown Prosecution Service takes in reviewing decisions after intervening in what judges called a 'troubling case'.
Lady Justice Nicola Davies and Mrs Justice Farbey quashed the decision of a reviewing lawyer made in October not to prosecute a police officer for causing death by dangerous driving and/or causing death by careless or inconsiderate driving following a pursuit in 2016.
“The judgment, handed down last week, states that the review decision was made by barrister Frank Ferguson, head of special crime, deputy head of the special crime and counter terrorism division.
“For the reasons given above we find that the reviewing lawyer did not bring to his task that same care, thoroughness and detail. We are conscious that a broad commonsense approach should be taken to the reasoning in a review decision, but when statements are made which are not easily identifiable in the evidence, that is a matter of concern. It is also reflective of the wider concern which the court has as to the care, thoroughness and detail which went into the writing of this review decision.'
More here https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/high-court-quashes-lawyers-decision-not-to-prosecute-police-driver/5071006.article
Has Mark Newby ever reflected on the contents of the letter he received from Frank Ferguson following the above revelations ?