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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: Robittybob1 on May 03, 2018, 12:30:02 PM

Title: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Robittybob1 on May 03, 2018, 12:30:02 PM
Previously this photo didn't have the label AP right over the man's face.

http://binaryapi.ap.org/395c0216c4b74c76bdca446c51fc267c/preview/AP070630014283.jpg?wm=api&ver=0

Has this been there all the time or was it done recently?
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Robittybob1 on May 03, 2018, 12:40:01 PM
Photos on websites are forever changing..  I had previously saved a copy of that photo but I don't record the website.    There was no branding on the photo then.
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Robittybob1 on May 03, 2018, 01:01:12 PM
This photo was linked on a previous thread   http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6532.msg263097#msg263097 photo link
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6256944.stm)

(http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6256944.stm)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6256944.stm

No blocking of the man's face then.
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Brietta on May 03, 2018, 01:09:03 PM
Photos on websites are forever changing..  I had previously saved a copy of that photo but I don't record the website.    There was no branding on the photo then.

This particular incident has a rather chequered career being much used to discredit the investigation into Madeleine in one way or another.

Like everything else this has been discussed previously on the forum in one form or another but by 2016 a blog which I am not going to cite was accusing a named friend of the McCanns as using it to engineer a 'hoax'.

The narrative has now changed from when we discussed it on the forum in 2015.  Who can fathom why?

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42447000/jpg/_42447232_queues_ap203b.jpg)


Snip
Claimed sightings of Madeleine McCann

I have always been slightly bemused by the apparent horror generated by possible sightings of Madeleine McCann.

For example ... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6256944.stm  the photograph which purported to show Madeleine in Brazil but was actually a photograph taken after a bomb scare in Ibiza ... gave the sceptic fora some light amusement for a time.

Why concentrate on the fact it was a hoax perpetrated probably for financial gain ... and ignore the question of who the healthy fair-haired girl aged three or four in pink trousers, a green top and a blue hat pictured at a Spanish airport is? and why the near apoplexy engendered when children who may have been Madeleine were reported to the authorities?




No more Fake news!
Original Source: JOANA MORAIS: 15 FEBRUARY 2013

In less than a month we had three Madeleine sightings, one of which was echoed by the parroting world media. Three sightings of dubious origins, three sightings that coincided with, at least, one major development of the McCann couple quest to stifle free speech and now, of a press already threatened by archaic libel laws.

co·in·ci·dence (k-ns-dns, -dns)

n.

1. The state or fact of occupying the same relative position or area in space.


2. A sequence of events that although accidental seems to have been planned or arranged.


For those of us who have followed this case since 2007 coincidences abound. So does spin, purposely published at calculated times to mislead or suppress information. A tactic used often by what has become known as 'Team McCann'.


**Snip
On January 20, 2013 the Express' James Murray, published 'Madeleine McCann kidnap photo shock', claiming that “Officers were happy for us to describe the potentially key evidence which shows a healthy fair-haired girl aged three or four in pink trousers, a green top and a blue hat (...) The photograph was allegedly taken in Brazil in June 2007 (...) The man suggests paedophile Raymond Hewlett, who died of throat cancer, aged 64, in Germany in 2010, was involved with others in the abduction (...) We can also reveal the man has been in contact with Isabel Duarte, Kate and Gerry McCann’s civil lawyer in Lisbon (...) The Yard may send the picture to FBI imaging experts in America for an opinion (...) This week the Yard is expected to ask detectives in Brazil to interview the man before considering whether to fly him to London.”

On the same day, Pamalam, who received an email by the man in Brazil, and Reggie Dunlop (member of The Maddie Case Files), found out that the 'Madeleine McCann kidnap shock picture' was indeed taken in June 2007 but in Ibiza, Spain. It was a picture from Associated Press, that had been published in a BBC news article illustrating the passengers being evacuated from Ibiza's airport after an anonymous bomb threat. I translated the email for Pamalam's site, and it was obvious from the first line, that it was a hoax by someone who had used news reports online to fabricate a story - motivated by money, publicity or something else is anyone's guess.

James Murray, Isabel Duarte, the McCanns, the Yard team, all of them had the same email, with exactly the same picture. None of them thought of tracing back the origins of the picture? None of them thought the wording in that email was bizarre, to say the least. Or did they? It seems other newspapers around the world were wiser, this story wasn't regurgitated anywhere else, except in the 'O Crime' Portuguese weekly tabloid who totally forgot to credit Pamalam and Reggie for debunking the Brazil email hoax.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6532.msg263097#msg263097
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Robittybob1 on May 03, 2018, 01:37:27 PM
I have been in contact with Luiz and I think he realised he had made a "mistake".  In one of the original photos it was possible to see the man clearer and I thought he had some resemblance  to the charity workers reported by Gail Cooper and I informed OG of that link.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/69jan13/ima_ibi.jpg  has a better picture. 
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Anthro on June 01, 2021, 05:17:12 PM
Re. the Ibiza Airport picture in June 2007.
Could the man on the left be Christian Manfred Kruse, the German citizen recently arrested in Bélan, Paraguay with a said connection to Christian Brückner? The other picture is one of the last photos of Madeleine in Praia da Luz, taken by Neil Berry.
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Robittybob1 on June 02, 2021, 04:00:13 AM
Re. the Ibiza Airport picture in June 2007.
Could the man on the left be Christian Manfred Kruse, the German citizen recently arrested in Bélan, Paraguay with a said connection to Christian Brückner? The other picture is one of the last photos of Madeleine in Praia da Luz, taken by Neil Berry.
Did we have a photo of Christian Manfred Kruse?
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Anthro on June 02, 2021, 07:33:18 AM
Did we have a photo of Christian Manfred Kruse?
This is him, Rob.
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: John on June 02, 2021, 10:53:59 AM
Did we have a photo of Christian Manfred Kruse?

Good to see you back Rob. Hope you are well?
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: jassi on June 02, 2021, 11:35:21 AM
This is him, Rob.

Is there a date for when this photo was taken, as to me, the man at the airport in 2007 looks older than the one of Kruse.
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Anthro on June 02, 2021, 05:23:26 PM
Is there a date for when this photo was taken, as to me, the man at the airport in 2007 looks older than the one of Kruse.
There is no reference to an exact date but presumably from April 2021 when Kruse was arrested.
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Robittybob1 on June 03, 2021, 08:26:48 AM
Good to see you back Rob. Hope you are well?
I'm well.   Just had enough of Madeleine McCann's research. 
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Anthro on June 03, 2021, 10:40:43 AM
Did we have a photo of Christian Manfred Kruse?
The attached id photo of Kruse (issued in 2001) is from a tweet.
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Eleanor on June 03, 2021, 10:55:06 AM
I'm well.   Just had enough of Madeleine McCann's research.

I know how you feel, Rob.  Add to that the nastiness which actually makes me feel ill on occasions.
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Brietta on June 03, 2021, 11:00:14 AM
I'm well.   Just had enough of Madeleine McCann's research.

I can appreciate that as sometimes the repetitive nastiness of it all is wearing and at the moment we don't know much at all about what is going on in the German investigation.  We're at the wait and see stage.

Anyway, glad you are well.

Back on topic ~
First of all what has been billed as 'a hoax' actually never was as far as the photograph is concerned.  The hoax was the bomb alert which was nothing at all to do with the photograph.

I think there is a significance that the photograph was taken at a busy international airport and was used to illustrate a news report of the event.

There is no doubt that the little girl and her unkempt companions make an incongruous threesome and I agree with Anthro that the similarity between Kruse and the man holding the child's hand is disturbing.
Almost as disturbing as the eagerness to dispel the similarity with Madeleine without any checks being done and the mere thought of that possibility being treated with such negativity.

I wish Sadie was able to post ~ this is her forte.  I think the unusually high forehead matches.
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Brietta on June 03, 2021, 11:04:23 AM
The attached id photo of Kruse (issued in 2001) is from a tweet.

The protective glove and the flooring underneath suggests this photograph was taken during a search of his house after his arrest?
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Anthro on June 03, 2021, 11:36:52 AM
I can appreciate that as sometimes the repetitive nastiness of it all is wearing and at the moment we don't know much at all about what is going on in the German investigation.  We're at the wait and see stage.

Anyway, glad you are well.

Back on topic ~
First of all what has been billed as 'a hoax' actually never was as far as the photograph is concerned.  The hoax was the bomb alert which was nothing at all to do with the photograph.

I think there is a significance that the photograph was taken at a busy international airport and was used to illustrate a news report of the event.

There is no doubt that the little girl and her unkempt companions make an incongruous threesome and I agree with Anthro that the similarity between Kruse and the man holding the child's hand is disturbing.
Almost as disturbing as the eagerness to dispel the similarity with Madeleine without any checks being done and the mere thought of that possibility being treated with such negativity.

I wish Sadie was able to post ~ this is her forte.  I think the unusually high forehead matches.
I also think there is a likeness with Kruse. I have attached the same pictures in another format that might be a bit clearer. According to the id document/passport, Kruse is blonde and has grey blue eyes. Although the age difference between him and Brückner is 13 years, he may well be ‘the other blonde man who accompanied Brückner and described as brothers’ (with thanks to SD, Websleuths). The new attached picture is of Kruse (unfortunately no date).
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: jassi on June 03, 2021, 11:44:19 AM
I also think there is a likeness with Kruse. I have attached the same pictures in another format that might be a bit clearer. According to the id document/passport, Kruse is blonde and has grey blue eyes. Although the age difference between him and Brückner is 13 years, he may well be ‘the other blonde man who accompanied Brückner and described as brothers’ (with thanks to SD, Websleuths). The new attached picture is of Kruse (unfortunately no date).

The man/men in the earlier photos cannot be described as blond by any stretch of the imagination.
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Eleanor on June 03, 2021, 11:49:50 AM
The man/men in the earlier photos cannot be described as blond by any stretch of the imagination.

Your imagination seems to be doing quite well.
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: jassi on June 03, 2021, 12:04:43 PM
Your imagination seems to be doing quite well.

No doubt, but it doesn't stretch as far as equating dark brown hair (airport man) with blond
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Anthro on June 03, 2021, 12:12:23 PM
The man/men in the earlier photos cannot be described as blond by any stretch of the imagination.
Google ‘strawberry blonde’ and ‘chestnut blonde’.
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: jassi on June 03, 2021, 12:18:08 PM
Strawberry I would agree with - along with a touch of ginger, but I think Chestnut is a hair product manufacture's over the top marketing.  Brunette is what it is normally called.
Airportman doesn't fit  either description - IMO
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Eleanor on June 03, 2021, 12:27:21 PM
No doubt, but it doesn't stretch as far as equating dark brown hair (airport man) with blond

What does Blonde mean?
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: jassi on June 03, 2021, 12:35:30 PM
blonde
/blɒnd/

adjective: blond

    (of hair) fair or pale yellow.
    "her long blonde hair"
    h
    Similar:
    fair
    light
    light-coloured
    light-toned
    yellow
    flaxen
    tow-coloured
    strawberry blonde
    yellowish
    golden
    silver
    silvery
    platinum
    ash blonde
    bleached
    sun-bleached
    peroxide
    bottle-blonde
    h
    Opposite:
    dark

   
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: G-Unit on June 03, 2021, 01:18:11 PM
What does Blonde mean?

Blonde hair has only small amounts of pheomelanin and eumelanin. Strawberry blonde is actually pale red hair, and chestnut blonde is also a shade of red.
https://www.lunadna.com/genetics-of-hair-color/
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Eleanor on June 03, 2021, 01:25:08 PM
Blonde hair has only small amounts of pheomelanin and eumelanin. Strawberry blonde is actually pale red hair, and chestnut blonde is also a shade of red.
https://www.lunadna.com/genetics-of-hair-color/

Blonde means whatever anyone wants it to mean.
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Brietta on June 03, 2021, 01:41:48 PM
I also think there is a likeness with Kruse. I have attached the same pictures in another format that might be a bit clearer. According to the id document/passport, Kruse is blonde and has grey blue eyes. Although the age difference between him and Brückner is 13 years, he may well be ‘the other blonde man who accompanied Brückner and described as brothers’ (with thanks to SD, Websleuths). The new attached picture is of Kruse (unfortunately no date).

He doesn't look particularly blonde to me in his passport photo either http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9454.msg653391#msg653391 and the one of him in the boat is suggestive of a reddish tinge.

I don't think the colour of his hair in the airport photograph matters one jot.  If the child is Madeleine she would have required documentation to fly so if she represented enough money to someone what is the added cost of hair dye and false documentation.

I think it is the shape of the face ~ his nose ~ forehead ~ ears ~ even the hands etc which may be the clincher plus the attitude of hiding in full sight all of which is well in Sadie's remit.  Bearing in mind this photograph would never have seen the light of day but for the evacuation of of an international airport.
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: barrier on June 03, 2021, 06:35:21 PM
What does Blonde mean?


Debbie Harry.
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Anthro on June 03, 2021, 06:52:23 PM
I also think there is a likeness with Kruse. I have attached the same pictures in another format that might be a bit clearer. According to the id document/passport, Kruse is blonde and has grey blue eyes. Although the age difference between him and Brückner is 13 years, he may well be ‘the other blonde man who accompanied Brückner and described as brothers’ (with thanks to SD, Websleuths). The new attached picture is of Kruse (unfortunately no date).
To me, they could have been seen as brothers. The younger being Brückner and the older being Kruse. It would be interesting to know Kruse’s whereabouts during April/May 2007.
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Anthro on June 03, 2021, 09:01:52 PM
Compared to the Smith sighting.
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Brietta on June 03, 2021, 10:49:21 PM
Compared to the Smith sighting.

I've always thought that efit is a ringer for Christovao.
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Eleanor on June 03, 2021, 11:56:44 PM
I've always thought that efit is a ringer for Christovao.

Me too also.  But there are some things that one shouldn't say without proof.  Which is why I have never said it.  Yet.  But I might in a minute.
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Billy Whizz Fan Club on June 23, 2021, 09:55:06 PM
Compared to the Smith sighting.

That chap on the right really reminds me of someone!!!
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Vertigo Swirl on June 23, 2021, 10:33:16 PM
That chap on the right really reminds me of someone!!!
He really reminds me of Piers Morgan.
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Billy Whizz Fan Club on July 26, 2021, 04:43:43 AM
I can appreciate that as sometimes the repetitive nastiness of it all is wearing and at the moment we don't know much at all about what is going on in the German investigation.  We're at the wait and see stage.

Anyway, glad you are well.

Back on topic ~
First of all what has been billed as 'a hoax' actually never was as far as the photograph is concerned.  The hoax was the bomb alert which was nothing at all to do with the photograph.

I think there is a significance that the photograph was taken at a busy international airport and was used to illustrate a news report of the event.

There is no doubt that the little girl and her unkempt companions make an incongruous threesome and I agree with Anthro that the similarity between Kruse and the man holding the child's hand is disturbing.
Almost as disturbing as the eagerness to dispel the similarity with Madeleine without any checks being done and the mere thought of that possibility being treated with such negativity.

I wish Sadie was able to post ~ this is her forte.  I think the unusually high forehead matches.
The “hoax” element was the claim that the picture was taken in Brazil.
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Brietta on July 26, 2021, 12:04:30 PM
The “hoax” element was the claim that the picture was taken in Brazil.

Do you have a cite for that please.
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: G-Unit on July 26, 2021, 12:52:09 PM
Do you have a cite for that please.

The photograph was allegedly taken in Brazil in June 2007, a month after Madeleine, three, was snatched from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz on Portugal’s Algarve coast.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/371953/Madeleine-McCann-kidnap-photo-shock

This is an Associated Press photo taken at Ibiza airport in 2007 after a bomb scare
https://order-order.com/2013/01/24/revealed-sunday-express-maddie-mccann-photo-blunder/

Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Anthro on July 26, 2021, 01:31:54 PM
The photograph was allegedly taken in Brazil in June 2007, a month after Madeleine, three, was snatched from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz on Portugal’s Algarve coast.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/371953/Madeleine-McCann-kidnap-photo-shock

This is an Associated Press photo taken at Ibiza airport in 2007 after a bomb scare
https://order-order.com/2013/01/24/revealed-sunday-express-maddie-mccann-photo-blunder/
The person who posted the photo is from Brazil - Luis M. As far as I remember the media got the location of the photo wrong, not him.
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: G-Unit on July 26, 2021, 02:28:51 PM
The person who posted the photo is from Brazil - Luis M. As far as I remember the media got the location of the photo wrong, not him.

Why was he sending a photo taken at Ibiza airport on 30 June 2007 to the UK police then?
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: jassi on July 26, 2021, 02:48:17 PM
While  googling this story, I came across this site, which I had never heard of.
https://mmknowthetruth.blogspot.com/2016_11_05_archive.html
(Please note that this would appear to be a sceptic site, so those of a sensitive disposition may wish to turn away now.)

Some interesting information about this guy Luis Moreno.
I have no idea whether it is true or not.
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Brietta on July 26, 2021, 03:13:03 PM
The photograph was allegedly taken in Brazil in June 2007, a month after Madeleine, three, was snatched from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz on Portugal’s Algarve coast.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/371953/Madeleine-McCann-kidnap-photo-shock

This is an Associated Press photo taken at Ibiza airport in 2007 after a bomb scare
https://order-order.com/2013/01/24/revealed-sunday-express-maddie-mccann-photo-blunder/

Actually I think you and the Express didn't really to check your facts - nor do I think there is any proof of a hoax when nobody mentions Brazil.  The airport referred to is Ibiza and the flight mentioned is from Ibiza to Munich.
I believe the evacuation was a hoax bomb alert.

From your link
A Portuguese speaking man living in Brazil forwarded the photo to a detective on Operation Grange, the Yard squad trying to find Madeleine by reviewing thousands of documents.
    **************************************
The man suggests paedophile Raymond Hewlett …

The man in Brazil has also sent the Yard a picture of a market scene, apparently shot in Portugal, purportedly showing Hewlett standing near a white van used in the abduction.
    **************************************
Giving his phone number and address he provides details of a flight from Ibiza to Munich in which one witness saw a girl looking like Madeleine “with the bandits”. Scotland Yard and the McCann investigators are used to dealing with letters from cranks, but are taking this more seriously because of the photographs provided.
We can also reveal the man has been in contact with Isabel Duarte, Kate and Gerry McCann’s civil lawyer in Lisbon.
Mrs Duarte told the Sunday Express: “It is an interesting picture but you cannot say it is Madeleine.
“I communicated with him by e-mail because I wanted to know where the picture was taken and who took it and who the men are.
“He was not prepared to tell me but said he would talk to the police. I don’t know exactly what this guy wants but it needs to be checked out. It is a matter for the police to look into.”
Last week she sent all details of her correspondence with the man to Madeleine’s parents Kate and Gerry in Leicestershire.

A spokesman for Scotland Yard said: “An image has been passed to us and it is being assessed.”
The Yard may send the picture to FBI imaging experts in America for an opinion.

The Sunday Express was passed the picture independently but Scotland Yard appealed to us not to publish it while it continues sensitive global investigations into the missing girl.
Officers were happy for us to describe the potentially key evidence which shows a healthy fair-haired girl aged three or four in pink trousers, a green top and a blue hat.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/371953/Madeleine-McCann-kidnap-photo-shock



The information was sent to

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/BRAZIL_EMAILS.htm
The purpose of this site is for information and a record of Gerry McCann's Blog Archives. As most people will appreciate GM deleted all past blogs from the official website. Hopefully this Archive will be helpful to anyone who is interested in Justice for Madeleine Beth McCann. Many Thanks, Pamalam
Note: This site does not belong to the McCanns. It belongs to Pamalam. If you wish to contact the McCanns directly, please use the contact/email details campaign@findmadeleine.com   


The following emails were sent to me (actually I think not.  I think the intended recipient was Gerry McCann) on 11 and 14 January 2013 Re: Brazil sighting: Hoax (gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk)

The email - (which was not intended for Pamalam unless someone can state without a shadow of a doubt the sender had ever heard of her - but Gerry McCann) was sent from a resident in Brazil with the only airports mentioned being Ibiza and Munich.
j)       List of passengers of the Lufthansa flight, Ibiza to Munich, in which Mr. Bode saw Madeleine McCann (I will identify the bandits)


Could the screenshot etc in your second link emanate from Guido Fox a week after the Express article appeared possibly explaining exactly why the man from Brazil wanted a check on passengers flying from Ibiza to Munich.

Could this be the photo that the Sunday Express story was talking about?
It shows a young, fair-haired girl in pink trousers, a green top and a blue hat, walking along a busy road with dozens of people carrying suitcases. The sun is shining and there is a palm tree in the background. She is holding the hand of an bearded, middle-aged man with cut-off jeans and a black t-shirt, with a man in checked shorts pulling a red suitcase behind. The problem? This is an Associated Press photo taken at Ibiza airport in 2007 after a bomb scare. It was even used in a BBC report at the time.
https://order-order.com/2013/01/24/revealed-sunday-express-maddie-mccann-photo-blunder/


THINK about it and check the dates.  Pamalam appears to be claiming HOAX on 11 and 14 January 2013.
James Murray's article was printed on 20 January 2013 and one has to wonder what his source was.
A week later Guido Fox sticks his oar in - if I've got your source correctly - the stage is now set for the sceptic ridicule of a very possible sighting to begin.
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Brietta on July 26, 2021, 03:16:27 PM
The person who posted the photo is from Brazil - Luis M. As far as I remember the media got the location of the photo wrong, not him.

I've just posted an epistle saying just that - you've managed to do it in one succinct sentence!
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Brietta on July 26, 2021, 03:23:14 PM
While  googling this story, I came across this site, which I had never heard of.
https://mmknowthetruth.blogspot.com/2016_11_05_archive.html
(Please note that this would appear to be a sceptic site, so those of a sensitive disposition may wish to turn away now.)

Some interesting information about this guy Luis Moreno.
I have no idea whether it is true or not.

Didn't someone ever explain to you that unknown bloggers on the internet might well be untrustworthy some more so than others.

Having read your link I would regard the comments made as nothing more or less than a pack of lies.
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: jassi on July 26, 2021, 03:35:19 PM
Didn't someone ever explain to you that unknown bloggers on the internet might well be untrustworthy some more so than others.

Having read your link I would regard the comments made as nothing more or less than a pack of lies.

If you had bothered to read my last line, you would realise that I'm fully aware that they might be untrustworthy.

You are entitled to your opinion, which is just that - an opinion. Others might differ

Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: Eleanor on July 26, 2021, 03:39:17 PM
If you had bothered to read my last line, you would realise that I'm fully aware that they might be untrustworthy.

You are entitled to your opinion, which is just that - an opinion. Others might differ

Carry on Regardless.
Title: Re: Has this man's identity been masked deliberately?
Post by: sadie on July 26, 2021, 06:55:00 PM
I can appreciate that as sometimes the repetitive nastiness of it all is wearing and at the moment we don't know much at all about what is going on in the German investigation.  We're at the wait and see stage.

Anyway, glad you are well.

Back on topic ~
First of all what has been billed as 'a hoax' actually never was as far as the photograph is concerned.  The hoax was the bomb alert which was nothing at all to do with the photograph.

I think there is a significance that the photograph was taken at a busy international airport and was used to illustrate a news report of the event.

There is no doubt that the little girl and her unkempt companions make an incongruous threesome and I agree with Anthro that the similarity between Kruse and the man holding the child's hand is disturbing.
Almost as disturbing as the eagerness to dispel the similarity with Madeleine without any checks being done and the mere thought of that possibility being treated with such negativity.

I wish Sadie was able to post ~ this is her forte.  I think the unusually high forehead matches.

Below was written at the time in response to jassis supercilious and ill informed post aimed at Anthro, but I was unable to post at the time (as you know). It also covers Briettas post above.



If you learned to question everything rather than take them at face value you might learn something - IMO


Hahaha

Anthro is brilliant.

She has questioned everything in great depth and has just come up with amazing posts.  I wish that I spoke Spanish / Paraguayan, but I get the gist of much of it.  She links in with some things I had previously noted, but never mentioned.

If only you understood what she has done.
But then, imo, either you don't understand or you are deliberately obfuscating.


If it is the later, WHY?

Do you have a reason why you dont want Madeleine found? *%6^






BTW I can see facial similarities between Cruz and the man holding the little girls hand at ?Ibiza airport. not enough to be certain, but enough for it to be positioned forward on the 'back burner' imo.

The initial reports that it was Brazil please me better than it is Ibiza airport.   I have found connections to Brazil.    Could the Ibiza airport be deliberate disinformation?

Anyone got photos of Ibiza airport from the same angle?  TY   Not doctored ones please