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Title: Wrongly convicted Barry George loses compensation bid
Post by: John on January 25, 2013, 06:13:07 PM
I find this totally abhorrent.  Barry George has learning difficulties and was stitched up by incompetent Met cops.  He is being discriminated against again just because no-one else has been convicted for the murder.


Barry George, wrongly convicted of the murder of BBC TV presenter Jill Dando, has lost a bid for compensation.  Two High Court judges ruled he failed to meet the test which would entitle him to compensation.

Mr George, 52, who spent eight years in prison before being cleared after a retrial, was one of five test cases to decide who was now entitled to payments.

(http://www.murderpedia.org/male.G/images/george_barry/george-013.jpg)


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21195269
Title: Re: Wrongly convicted Barry George loses compensation bid
Post by: John on January 25, 2013, 06:24:37 PM
At the High Court, judges Lord Justice Beatson and Mr Justice Irwin ruled that Mr George and three others had failed this test.

Ian Glen QC, appearing for Mr George, had argued that the decision to refuse damages to a maximum of £500,000 was "defective and contrary to natural justice".

He said Mr George's unanimous acquittal by a jury at his retrial, the Ministry of Justice had unfairly and unlawfully decided he was "not innocent enough to be compensated".

But for more than 30 years those acquitted on retrials in similar circumstances had been compensated, said Mr Glen.

Not to treat Mr George's acquittal as a miscarriage of justice "went behind the decision of the jury that acquitted him" and failed to take account of the fact that no safe conviction could ever be based on the evidence against him, the QC said.

But the High Court judges said: "There was indeed a case upon which a reasonable jury properly directed could have convicted the claimant of murder."
Title: Re: Wrongly convicted Barry George loses compensation bid
Post by: Padgates staff on January 25, 2013, 06:27:04 PM
It's bad but he doesn't meet the criteria. Its hard enough to get it when you meet it,like the case of Tony Steel.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/1758027.family_want_ripper_probe_into_killing/
http://www.roughjusticetv.co.uk/steelfilm.htm

Maybe he should sue his defense team.
Title: Re: Wrongly convicted Barry George loses compensation bid
Post by: John on January 25, 2013, 06:29:01 PM
It's bad but he doesn't meet the criteria. Its hard enough to get it when you meet it,like the case of Tony Steel.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/1758027.family_want_ripper_probe_into_killing/
http://www.roughjusticetv.co.uk/steelfilm.htm

Maybe he should sue his defense team.

The Law and more specifically the criteria is an ass!  If there ever was a case of a wrongful conviction, Barry George's case is it.
Title: Re: Wrongly convicted Barry George loses compensation bid
Post by: Padgates staff on January 25, 2013, 06:35:23 PM
I agree, the law's an ass. He's been let down by so many eople, so many times. In the 'crimes that shook Britain', one of the neighbours of Jill Dando said everyone in the area knew Barry George and really he needed more support, which when you look at him, he does. he changed his name to like Steve Majors, Barry Bulsara etc, wanted to join the SAS or something but at the same time, he's not really a threat to people. He just needed support or an advocate to help him.
Title: Re: Wrongly convicted Barry George loses compensation bid
Post by: John on January 26, 2013, 12:49:56 AM
This was yet another case where the now disbanded Forensics Science Service made a complete pigs ear of the analysis and came up with the wrong conclusions.  To say the man is not innocent enough is a complete farce.

Lets hope the Supreme Court see this decision for what it really is!
Title: Re: Wrongly convicted Barry George loses compensation bid
Post by: Padgates staff on January 26, 2013, 08:46:36 AM
It wouldn't suprise me if the present him with a bill for 8 years of accomodation and food next and bill him for any courses he did  8(8-))
Title: Re: Wrongly convicted Barry George loses compensation bid
Post by: John on July 09, 2013, 11:28:15 AM
Barry George has today lost his appeal in his compensation bid after being wrongly convicted of the murder of BBC television presenter Jill Dando.

An appalling and damning indictment of British justice.
Title: Re: Wrongly convicted Barry George loses compensation bid
Post by: John on July 09, 2013, 11:46:05 AM
Barry George loses bid to claim up to £500,000

Barry George, who spent eight years in prison after being wrongly convicted of the murder of TV presenter Jill Dando, has lost his legal battle for compensation as a victim of a "'miscarriage of justice".

The latest legal move at the Court of Appeal followed the dismissal of his claim by two High Court judges in January.

Lord Justice Beatson and Mr Justice Irwin had rejected his claim that the Justice Secretary unfairly and unlawfully decided he was "not innocent enough to be compensated".

They ruled that the Secretary of State was "entirely justified in the conclusion he reached".

Lord Justice Richards, sitting at the Court of Appeal in London, today rejected an application by Mr George for permission to challenge the January decision.

He announced that the 53-year-old - who was present in court for the ruling - had "no realistic prospects" of success on appeal.

Mr George went to the High Court seeking a reconsideration of his case which could have opened the way for him to claim an award of up to £500,000 for lost earnings and wrongful imprisonment.

www.itv.com/news/story/2013-07-09/barry-george-loses-compensation-bid/
Title: Re: Wrongly convicted Barry George loses compensation bid
Post by: John on July 09, 2013, 11:56:10 AM
George compensation ruling is a 'travesty of justice'

Barry George's sister Michelle Diskin has described the High Court's decision to halt her brother's compensation bid was a "travesty of justice".

“There never was any viable evidence against Barry. This whole case from April 2000 until today has been a smoke and mirrors exercise designed to placate a worried public, and give the impression that justice had been done.

Well neither the Dando family, nor our family, has seen any justice in the past 13 years."

www.itv.com/news/story/2013-07-09/barry-george-loses-compensation-bid/
Title: Re: Wrongly convicted Barry George loses compensation bid
Post by: Redblossom on July 09, 2013, 09:11:39 PM
you only have to read the comments in the daily mail article to see how nearly 100% of readers find  this digusting at best

The judges in this country and the law are worse than an asses ar se, actually its just the former, as the law is just a bunch  of words they can interpret at their despicable will


Shame the people involved in his fit up are the same two guys, hamish and redwood, leading the cold case review into Madeleine Mccann!
Shudder

nuff said, hopefully they will leave their corrupt practices behind this time

Disgusted from middx signing out, Barry George should take this to the ECHR, because this country just cannot jail innocent people and get away with it and also say sorry, tough, your loss, you lost eight yrs of your life and a bunch of other stuff, numpty scrotes
Title: Re: Wrongly convicted Barry George loses compensation bid
Post by: Nicholas on March 25, 2018, 09:40:53 PM
Apparently Barry George was questioned by police over the Rachael Nickel case?
Title: Re: Wrongly convicted Barry George loses compensation bid
Post by: Geraldine on May 28, 2018, 09:30:34 AM
Hello everyone. My opinion is that the police just wanted someone - anyone - done for this murder because of who Jill Dando was. A definite two-tier system in play here. Look at how the Met dealt with the case of Stephen Lawrence just 6 years earlier. They could hardly be bothered investigating. Shocking all round.  I hope Barry George is doing OK.
Title: Re: Wrongly convicted Barry George loses compensation bid
Post by: John on May 28, 2018, 09:47:52 AM
Hello everyone. My opinion is that the police just wanted someone - anyone - done for this murder because of who Jill Dando was. A definite two-tier system in play here. Look at how the Met dealt with the case of Stephen Lawrence just 6 years earlier. They could hardly be bothered investigating. Shocking all round.  I hope Barry George is doing OK.

I would agree to the extent that they were under tremendous pressure to find the individual responsible.  Hauling in Barry George however and attributing such a cunning and brutal crime to him was in my view highly questionable but despicable conduct.  It gave the phrase grasping at straws a whole new meaning imo.  George's subsequent release but failed absolute exoneration lost the Met and the English Justice System much credibility imo.
Title: Re: Wrongly convicted Barry George loses compensation bid
Post by: Geraldine on May 28, 2018, 10:10:53 AM
It remind me of how they tried to fit up Colin Stagg for the Rachel Nickell murder.  A local "oddball" who they thought fitted the bill.  Luckily the judge threw out the case against Stagg. Another dent to their credibility and disgusting when you look at how they failed Stephen Lawrence and no doubt many other people who deserved equal diligence and care but cos they were not "high profile" cases they were treated like rubbish.
Title: Re: Wrongly convicted Barry George loses compensation bid
Post by: Nicholas on April 25, 2019, 07:29:02 PM
I find this totally abhorrent.  Barry George has learning difficulties and was stitched up by incompetent Met cops.  He is being discriminated against again just because no-one else has been convicted for the murder.


Barry George, wrongly convicted of the murder of BBC TV presenter Jill Dando, has lost a bid for compensation.  Two High Court judges ruled he failed to meet the test which would entitle him to compensation.

Mr George, 52, who spent eight years in prison before being cleared after a retrial, was one of five test cases to decide who was now entitled to payments.

(http://www.murderpedia.org/male.G/images/george_barry/george-013.jpg)


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21195269

Seems you’ve been taken in by all the propaganda John!
Title: Re: Wrongly convicted Barry George loses compensation bid
Post by: Nicholas on April 25, 2019, 07:29:48 PM
It remind me of how they tried to fit up Colin Stagg for the Rachel Nickell murder.  A local "oddball" who they thought fitted the bill.  Luckily the judge threw out the case against Stagg. Another dent to their credibility and disgusting when you look at how they failed Stephen Lawrence and no doubt many other people who deserved equal diligence and care but cos they were not "high profile" cases they were treated like rubbish.

You should read what Colin Stagg says about Barry George!
Title: Re: Wrongly convicted Barry George loses compensation bid
Post by: Nicholas on April 25, 2019, 07:34:27 PM
This was yet another case where the now disbanded Forensics Science Service made a complete pigs ear of the analysis and came up with the wrong conclusions.  To say the man is not innocent enough is a complete farce.

How?
Title: Re: Wrongly convicted Barry George loses compensation bid
Post by: Nicholas on April 29, 2019, 08:45:32 AM
“Barry George has revealed how he is still looking over his shoulder 20 years after being acquitted of the murder of BBC star Jill Dando.

Just weeks after his acquittal he had a gun pressed to the back of his head and was told to 'watch your back'.

Speaking of how he still fears he will be attacked, George said he believes the threat came from someone connected to the Crimewatch presenter.

Speaking to the Mirror, Barry, 58, said that despite his conviction being overturned 10 years ago he does 'not feel free' and is 'looking over my shoulder'.

After being found guilty in 2001, Barry was cleared at a retrial in 2008.

He had moved to Hackney, east London, and it was there that the threat was made a year after he was freed.

Barry says: 'When I was in emergency accommodation in Hackney, I was stood in a long hallway and I had a gun put to my head and was told 'Watch your back'.

'I went to the police station and told them and they gave me lip service. I was living in fear.

'There were two things in my mind: I've been acquitted of this crime and then I get a gun to my head.'

The Met police confirmed that a man in his 40s had reported such an incident in Hackney during 2009.

However, they were unable to give full details of the probe.

David Wells, a criminal defence specialist from Wells Burcombe Solicitors, was at the police station when Barry reported the sinister threat.

David said: 'He was incredibly distressed... sweating, out of breath and in quite a state.

I'd seen Barry on many occasions and I had never seen him this distressed.

Later that year Barry fled to Ireland where he hoped the harassment would end.

Crimewatch presenter Miss Dando, 37, was shot outside her home in Fulham, south-west London in April 1999.

The murder prompted an enormous inquiry by Scotland Yard and resulted in unemployed loner Mr George being convicted in July 2001.

He was granted a retrial on appeal, and received a unanimous acquittal by a jury in August 2008.

Mr George then made a claim for compensation for lost earnings and wrongful imprisonment, but this was rejected in January 2010.

He went to court again to seek a reconsideration of his case, which could have opened the way for him to claim as much as £500,000.

His barrister, Ian Glen QC, insisted that the original decision to refuse compensation was 'defective and contrary to natural justice', arguing that for more than 30 years, those acquitted on retrials in similar circumstances had been compensated.

Previously, compensation was only awarded for a miscarriage of justice if a claimant could effectively prove they were innocent.

But a Supreme Court hearing in 2011 widened this to say a person is eligible for compensation if they can prove that no set of circumstances could possibly lead to their conviction by a jury.

The judges ruled Mr George's case did not pass this second test. His solicitor, Nick Baird, said: 'We are very disappointed with the judgment and shall be applying for permission to leapfrog the Court of Appeal to have the matter heard before the Supreme Court.'

Mr George's action was one of five test cases to decide who is now entitled to payments in 'miscarriage of justice' cases.

Decisions to refuse payouts in all five cases were defended by current Justice Secretary Chris Grayling in a three-day hearing last October
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5961027/Man-acquitted-killing-Jill-Dando-told-watch-walking-free.html

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9318.555
Title: Re: Wrongly convicted Barry George loses compensation bid
Post by: Nicholas on April 29, 2019, 08:49:20 AM
It remind me of how they tried to fit up Colin Stagg for the Rachel Nickell murder.  A local "oddball" who they thought fitted the bill.  Luckily the judge threw out the case against Stagg. Another dent to their credibility and disgusting when you look at how they failed Stephen Lawrence and no doubt many other people who deserved equal diligence and care but cos they were not "high profile" cases they were treated like rubbish.


August 2008
I feel no sympathy for Barry George': Colin Stagg hits out after being awarded £700,000

“The man falsely accused of murdering Rachel Nickell yesterday revealed that he feels 'no sympathy' for Barry George because of his history of stalking vulnerable women.

Colin Stagg , who has just been awarded more than £700,000 for wrongful arrest and prosecution, moved to distance himself from George  -  acquitted last month of murdering TV star Jill Dando.

Mr Stagg, 45, said: 'I do feel sorry for George because he has been behind bars all these years when he was clearly not guilty on the evidence.

But I can feel no sympathy for the man himself because he is a serial stalker of women who has also admitted attempted rape.'

'I can understand police pointing the finger at him because of his previous conviction.

'But he's not like me. I had never had a single conviction until police accused me of murdering Rachel Nickell. There's a big difference between me and Barry George.'

There has been speculation that Mr George could be in line for a similar sum, having spent eight years in jail and endured two trials for a crime he did not commit.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1044423/I-feel-sympathy-Barry-George-Colin-Stagg-hits-awarded-700-000.html
Title: Re: Wrongly convicted Barry George loses compensation bid
Post by: Nicholas on May 02, 2019, 02:11:57 PM
Stephen Downing overturned his conviction for murder on a technicality.

Take a look at how much compensation he received.

Apparently it wasn’t in the public interest to re try Stephen Downing because he’d served 27 years in prison.

Barry George rightly lost his bid for compensation!