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UK and North American politics. => A look at US politics following Donald Trump's inauguration as President. => Topic started by: Wonderfulspam on December 16, 2016, 03:22:49 PM

Title: Was Obama's Birth Certificate a Fake?
Post by: Wonderfulspam on December 16, 2016, 03:22:49 PM
The birth certificate, released in 2011 by Barrack Obama, to prove his citenzship & debunk the birther conspiracy theory,......... is in fact a forgery.

5 year long investigation concludes '9 points of forgery' on Obama's birth certificate.


How extraordinary!


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Title: Re: Was Obama's Birth Certificate a Fake?
Post by: stephen25000 on December 16, 2016, 04:11:00 PM
The birth certificate, released in 2011 by Barrack Obama, to prove his citenzship & debunk the birther conspiracy theory,......... is in fact a forgery.

5 year long investigation concludes '9 points of forgery' on Obama's birth certificate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EAxesVQ8wo

How extraordinary!

Has this been verified by an independent source, and not one out to get Obama because of their political affiliations and hatred of Obama ?
Title: Re: Was Obama's Birth Certificate a Fake?
Post by: stephen25000 on December 16, 2016, 04:12:29 PM
Likewise, are you aware Spam, how many fake stories about Obama, and Clinton have put in the media over the election ???
Title: Re: Was Obama's Birth Certificate a Fake?
Post by: Wonderfulspam on December 16, 2016, 04:26:11 PM
Did you actually watch the video stephen?

His birth certificate is an obvious copy & paste job......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk3KRxTfkLM

Title: Re: Was Obama's Birth Certificate a Fake?
Post by: stephen25000 on December 16, 2016, 04:28:09 PM
Yes I did watch the video.

How do you know the other one wasn't faked ?
Title: Re: Was Obama's Birth Certificate a Fake?
Post by: Wonderfulspam on December 16, 2016, 04:31:58 PM
Yes I did watch the video.

How do you know the other one wasn't faked ?

So, the Arizona police dept has forged a birth certificate to make Obama's appear fake?

Right'o.
Title: Re: Was Obama's Birth Certificate a Fake?
Post by: stephen25000 on December 16, 2016, 04:32:48 PM
So, the Arizona police dept has forged a birth certificate to make Obama's appear fake?

Right'o.

The question is Spam, who gave it to them ???   8)--))
Title: Re: Was Obama's Birth Certificate a Fake?
Post by: stephen25000 on December 16, 2016, 04:55:40 PM
I see that both Sheriff Joe Arpaio and Jerome Corsi, were at a Republican convention. Yet it states there was no political bias in the article.

http://www.wnd.com/2016/12/investigators-find-source-for-obamas-online-birth-certification-image/

Who by the way who  are the 'independent experts' ?
Title: Re: Was Obama's Birth Certificate a Fake?
Post by: Carana on December 17, 2016, 10:00:03 AM
Yes I did watch the video.

How do you know the other one wasn't faked ?

That's what I was wondering as well.

As for numerous other arguments concerning a supposed forgery:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp
Title: Re: Was Obama's Birth Certificate a Fake?
Post by: John on December 21, 2016, 03:39:21 PM
The birth certificate, released in 2011 by Barrack Obama, to prove his citenzship & debunk the birther conspiracy theory,......... is in fact a forgery.

5 year long investigation concludes '9 points of forgery' on Obama's birth certificate.


How extraordinary!

An excellent piece of detective work.  Question is, where do they go from here?

If Obama is found to have not been born in Hawaii, what does that mean for his Presidency?
Title: Re: Was Obama's Birth Certificate a Fake?
Post by: stephen25000 on December 21, 2016, 04:40:12 PM
An excellent piece of detective work.  Question is, where do they go from here?

If Obama is found to have not been born in Hawaii, what does that mean for his Presidency?

This story of the actually biased Sheriff, is not making major headlines. I wonder why. &%+((
Title: Re: Was Obama's Birth Certificate a Fake?
Post by: kmoore1967 on May 28, 2018, 05:25:06 PM
The birth certificate, released in 2011 by Barrack Obama, to prove his citenzship & debunk the birther conspiracy theory,......... is in fact a forgery.

5 year long investigation concludes '9 points of forgery' on Obama's birth certificate.


How extraordinary!


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I'm going to jump in here quite late, but here's thing.

1: His father was never an American citizen, he was a British subject and Kenyan citizen and according to Kenyan law at the time he was born, because his father was a Muslim, he automatically became a citizen of Kenya. But he was also an American citizen because his mother was American...however, in Kenya he would always be a Kenyan citizen and a British subject. Did we have the dual citizenship law with Kenya at the time?

2: His mother and father were never actually legally married, his father already had a wife in Kenya. When Immigration and Naturalization found out, they deported him.

3: His mother married an Indonesian citizen that adopted him. Therefore, his mother willingly gave up his US citizenship as he was underaged. Therefore, he is legally and lawfully an Indonesian citizen.

4: He was sent back to Hawaii to live with his grandparents, as they never legally or formally adopted him, to reestablish his US citizenship, and he went to college as Barry Soetoro, and received scholarships as Barry Soetoro, then he was very clearly NOT an American citizen.

5: The only way he then would be a US citizen would be through marriage to Michelle. And he would have to have been naturalized, as he was a minor when he became an Indonesian citizen.

As the law says "natural born" citizen, it does not apply when a minor is placed under another country to be a citizen there. The only way he could claim that he was a citizen was through his mother, and that is why he had to backpedal about her marital status. But he never addressed the legal issue of being an Indonesian citizen. He benefitted by his immigrant minority status.