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Amaral squandered the benefit no-one else enjoyed of the golden hours.  His book is a masterclass of some of the ways in which he squandered them.

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MST : One can't trust what the witnesses say, ok. 
G A : Not the witnesses, the suspects, don't you forget that  !

MST : (mocking) But you determined them as suspects before they became suspects, it is what it seems to me, really, the idea you give is that they are immediately suspects..
GA : But they're not...

MST :  You woke up the next day in the morning and without even having looked at their faces, you are already suspecting them..
GA : But it's a golden rule...

MST : Which golden rule ? I think the golden rule here is to start investigating, if there is evidence, then suspicions may arise, but before you have any evidence, there are already suspicions.
GA : No, in international terms... We don't have many cases...

MST : Gonçalo Amaral, excuse me for that, but it seems to me that you started from a thesis and looked for evidence to confirm your thesis, instead of doing the other way round.
GA : You're wrong, on the contrary I can tell you something: in the beginning they said it was a case similar to another one, I said no...   
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7483.0

It's quite clear that this case attracted unusual attention. I know of no other case where an Ambassador drives for 2.5 hours to get involved in a case. It's not part of his job, it's the job of the Consul. Most people have trouble getting the Consul's help and have no chance of the Ambassador getting involved. That fact alone leads me to  believe Amaral when he says there was political interference.

If that interference prevented the PJ from doing their job then it's hardly fair to blame Amaral. It's normal to suspect family and friends when a child disappears into thin air. If the PJ were prevented from clearing the ground beneath their feet by looking at the group first, then the fault isn't theirs.
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Yes I said in an earlier post imo all those in JB's circle were coerced.  We can see from JB's police interviews, undertaken with a solicitor present, that DS Jones was happy to mislead ie telling JB SC was murdered and she could not have shot herself twice.  Imo he relayed these comments to JB's circle and the fact most, if not all, used recreational drugs was used as additional leverage to get them to cooperate.

I'll ask again - how were they coerced? What could they have on LR or MW? And what was to stop them mentioning they had been coerced when giving evidence? It seems a bit of a cop out to dismiss the testimony of anyone who accused Bamber of murder as being coerced. I can see an argument for Julie - but not the others.
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You can't really fault this:

"We gave the best of ourselves to resolve this case. Our conclusions rest on the proven facts and the evidence interpreted within the principles of the law. Our work was done in the cause of justice, based on the material truth, the only thing that must prevail in a universe where the lie is raised up as truth."

I presume that they failed, whoever they were.  In which case a Pox on their houses.
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You can't really fault this:

"We gave the best of ourselves to resolve this case. Our conclusions rest on the proven facts and the evidence interpreted within the principles of the law. Our work was done in the cause of justice, based on the material truth, the only thing that must prevail in a universe where the lie is raised up as truth."
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Because it would be a lie unless you had some evidence.
Even if you had “some evidence” it would still likely be defamatory.  Jason Donovan won a libel lawsuit against the Face magsazine for claiming that he was gay despite the fact  that they had “some evidence” he was gay, presumably based on what they believed gay people look like, dress and act and what they had heard on the grapevine.
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Jezus. I despair.  There has never been any evidence or proof.  So why on earth are we doing this?  Is there some inherent hatred that I don't understand?  Or are we all so bemused that we can't see that there is nothing.
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Personally, I don't care all that much any more.  There is never going to be a good end to this.  And that is really sad.
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Of course the same accusation could be levelled at Rebelo, do Carmo, Redwood and Wall. They have all failed to find the child or what happened to her.

Amaral squandered the benefit no-one else enjoyed of the golden hours.  His book is a masterclass of some of the ways in which he squandered them.

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MST : One can't trust what the witnesses say, ok. 
G A : Not the witnesses, the suspects, don't you forget that  !

MST : (mocking) But you determined them as suspects before they became suspects, it is what it seems to me, really, the idea you give is that they are immediately suspects..
GA : But they're not...

MST :  You woke up the next day in the morning and without even having looked at their faces, you are already suspecting them..
GA : But it's a golden rule...

MST : Which golden rule ? I think the golden rule here is to start investigating, if there is evidence, then suspicions may arise, but before you have any evidence, there are already suspicions.
GA : No, in international terms... We don't have many cases...

MST : Gonçalo Amaral, excuse me for that, but it seems to me that you started from a thesis and looked for evidence to confirm your thesis, instead of doing the other way round.
GA : You're wrong, on the contrary I can tell you something: in the beginning they said it was a case similar to another one, I said no...   
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7483.0
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