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Online Eleanor

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2018, 04:11:26 PM »
Could you explain that please Eleanor?

I was referring to myself.

Offline Sunny

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2018, 04:15:04 PM »
I was referring to myself.

OK thank you Eleanor.
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Online Eleanor

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2018, 04:17:25 PM »
OK thank you Eleanor.

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Offline Erngath

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2018, 04:47:46 PM »
Then she should have had the decency and professionalism to put her name to those suspicions.


Perhaps this lack of decency and professionalism was apparent to the McCanns and friends who had every right to decline her interference. IMO
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Offline Sunny

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2018, 04:52:40 PM »

Perhaps this lack of decency and professionalism was apparent to the McCanns and friends who had every right to decline her interference. IMO

Or perhaps there was another reason, Erngath, who knows?
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Offline Erngath

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2018, 04:56:21 PM »
Or perhaps there was another reason, Erngath, who knows?

Indeed, but many seem to criticise every decision made without knowing any details of what actually occurred.
Also every action and decision of the parents is seen through a fog of distrust and bias IMO of course.
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Offline Sunny

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2018, 05:01:15 PM »
Indeed, but many seem to criticise every decision made without knowing any details of what actually occurred.
Also every action and decision of the parents is seen through a fog of distrust and bias IMO of course.


Every action made by the PJ and Portuguese police is seen through a fog of distrust and bias IMO of course.

Some question the McCanns by what they say and do, not just because of bias IMO.
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Offline Davel

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2018, 05:04:30 PM »

Every action made by the PJ and Portuguese police is seen through a fog of distrust and bias IMO of course.

Some question the McCanns by what they say and do, not just because of bias IMO.

I believe the McCanns based on the evidence... I distrust the PJ... Based on the evidence... Amaral guilty of perjury.. Almeida guilty of torture
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Offline Erngath

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2018, 05:08:03 PM »

Every action made by the PJ and Portuguese police is seen through a fog of distrust and bias IMO of course.

Some question the McCanns by what they say and do, not just because of bias IMO.

Fortunately I do trust NSY and not the suspicions raised by internet detectives who question everything the McCanns say or do.
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Offline Erngath

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2018, 05:19:33 PM »
Or perhaps there was another reason, Erngath, who knows?

Could you expand on what you believe the other reason could be for the McCanns and friends to find her interference not to their liking?
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Offline Sunny

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2018, 05:57:55 PM »
Could you expand on what you believe the other reason could be for the McCanns and friends to find her interference not to their liking?

No I can't Erngath, sorry.   Perhaps Davel can as he finds it understandable that the shooed Yvonne Martin away.
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Online Eleanor

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2018, 05:59:59 PM »
I believe the McCanns based on the evidence... I distrust the PJ... Based on the evidence... Amaral guilty of perjury.. Almeida guilty of torture

None of The Sceptics seem to be really interested in this.  But then this sort of thing does appear to go on quite a lot in Portugal.  So perhaps it's normal.

Online Eleanor

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2018, 06:03:28 PM »
No I can't Erngath, sorry.   Perhaps Davel can as he finds it understandable that the shooed Yvonne Martin away.

Does Portugal have Social Workers?  And are they allowed to interfere in Investigations?

Offline jassi

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2018, 06:04:24 PM »
Does Portugal have Social Workers?  And are they allowed to interfere in Investigations?

In what way was she interfering ?
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Online Eleanor

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2018, 06:11:57 PM »
In what way was she interfering ?

By trying to question a witness.