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Online Davel

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #360 on: November 24, 2018, 07:09:33 PM »
I see we're back to the same argument again.  Let's be clear, the sniffer dog alerts were suggestive of cadaver odour, no more or no less can be implied imo.

we are back to the same argument because it has never gone away...according to Almeida who wrote the interim report the main evidence that Maddie died in the aprtment was the dog alerts....the PJ thought cadaver odour was confirmed...its in the police files...its considered a proven fact...but it isnt
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Offline John

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #361 on: November 24, 2018, 07:11:53 PM »
we are back to the same argument because it has never gone away...according to Almeida who wrote the interim report the main evidence that Maddie died in the aprtment was the dog alerts....the PJ thought cadaver odour was confirmed...its in the police files

Well they couldn't have read and/or understood the dog handlers very comprehensive report then.

Now back to the topic please,
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Online Davel

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #362 on: November 24, 2018, 07:15:00 PM »
Well they couldn't have read and/or understood the dog handlers very comprehensive report then.

Now back to the topic please,

Ive already made the point...both the reports by Harrison and Grime are in english so they certainly havent read them....was the whole case against the mccanns built on a misunderstanding...or two
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Offline John

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #363 on: November 24, 2018, 07:25:50 PM »
Ive already made the point...both the reports by Harrison and Grime are in english so they certainly havent read them....was the whole case against the mccanns built on a misunderstanding...or two

No, just good old forensics and a coppers nose. Now Yvonne Martin please.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #364 on: November 24, 2018, 07:27:13 PM »
No, just good old forensics and a coppers nose. Now Yvonne Martin please.
There were zero forensics in the case against the McCanns.
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Online Davel

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #365 on: November 24, 2018, 07:28:16 PM »
No, just good old forensics and a coppers nose.

the forensics indicated nothing so its just the coppers nose...so the whole case was built on a good old coppers nose


I would certainly accept that...we only have to look at Colin stagg and the Jill dando case to show how reliable taht is
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Online Davel

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #366 on: November 24, 2018, 07:29:21 PM »
There were zero forensics in the case against the McCanns.

absolute;y...so it was all the good old coppers nose...
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Offline Brietta

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #367 on: November 24, 2018, 08:23:11 PM »
According to the PJ they spoke only to Gerry McCann.

Oh ? ... said who?

But taking into consideration that a senior social worker saw fit not to share her concerns with the appropriate authorities until some time after her visit to Luz appears to be a tad remiss and laid back was there any true concern about the welfare of children.

She must have felt secure in the knowledge that the kids were OK or I imagine she would have acted immediately instead of waiting and I rather think she would have wished to know the outcome of any complaint she had flagged up.

For obvious reasons she would not have received feedback from the anonymous letter she wrote to the police in England.

So why would a professional so apparently eager to utilise her expertise that she dropped everything on the morning of the 4th May to reach the seat of the action, provide such an example of bad practice confirming only her unsuitability for the task she selected for herself?
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Offline John

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #368 on: November 24, 2018, 08:49:15 PM »
the forensics indicated nothing so its just the coppers nose...so the whole case was built on a good old coppers nose


I would certainly accept that...we only have to look at Colin stagg and the Jill dando case to show how reliable taht is

You are very dismissive of the forensics davel, you do realise that what isn't found is just as useful as what is found?
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Online Davel

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #369 on: November 24, 2018, 08:58:00 PM »
You are very dismissive of the forensics davel, you do realise that what isn't found is just as useful as what is found?

I realise what is found is concrete evidence... What isn't found is speculation... So it's not as useful
We would also have to understand  why something isn't found... Was it because it wasn't there or because it was, sent to the laundry and not properly checked
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