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Offline Davel

Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2018, 07:17:13 AM »
Or it seems that you make sweeping comments without actually knowing what other people really think.

Here is a fire safety sheet for parents and carers of children.  It gives some very good advice.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/475173/Fire-Safety-for-Parents-and-Child-Carers.pdf

Some of us don't need any advice on such simple matters... You don't let a child burn to death if you can help... A child within easy reach.. Do you open the door... Or Google for advice... LOL
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Offline Davel

Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2018, 07:39:09 AM »
What do the fire brigade advise?

There was arecent fire in a tower block where the experts....fire brigade.....told occupants to stay in their apartments and wait to be rescued...many died who simply may have been able to walk out to safety....experts are not always right
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Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2018, 08:05:20 AM »
What do the fire brigade advise?

I'll ask my son.

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Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2018, 10:39:25 AM »
What do the fire brigade advise?


Don't leave young children unattended - under any circumstances in the first place.
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Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2018, 10:43:31 AM »
I know at work we had to assemble at a certain spot and the team leaders did a roll call for the staff in a certain department.  It was never explained to me what anyone do if someone was missing from the list.

It would take anything up to 20 minutes for the fire brigade to arrive so there seemed to be plenty of time for local action to put the fire out if there really was one.  Get out stay out seemed to be the main objective.  Too bad if you were missing. 
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Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2018, 10:43:56 AM »
Some of us don't need any advice on such simple matters... You don't let a child burn to death if you can help... A child within easy reach.. Do you open the door... Or Google for advice... LOL

Well seems you do lol - don't leave the door unlocked.

Advice don't leave them in the first place.
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Offline Davel

Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2018, 10:46:15 AM »
Well seems you do lol - don't leave the door unlocked.

Advice don't leave them in the first place.
More lack of context....
I've posted many times children shouldn't be left... Might help if you read what the thread is, about before  posting
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Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2018, 10:50:46 AM »

Don't leave young children unattended - under any circumstances in the first place.
Back in the real world.  I was once a solo dad with 3 kids and I had no car.  So I'd take the two older kids to school on the scooter and I'd leave the 3rd at home alone.  One day a truck crashed and pulled the electric wires down and on my way back I could see smoke coming out of my street.  Luckily the youngest didn't go outside with the live cables lying on the footpath.
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Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2018, 10:57:37 AM »
Well seems you do lol - don't leave the door unlocked.

Advice don't leave them in the first place.

Well there was more chance that the McCann kids would get out alive than the other families for they were able to open the doors, but the others were with deadlocked rooms.  They would need their parents to arrive there with the key before the doors could be opened to rescue them. 
I suppose in the normal run of events the chances of a house fire is more frequent than an abduction, so could it be argued it is better to have access to escape rather than being locked in.
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Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2018, 11:03:41 AM »
Did the Ocean Club insist on working smoke alarms in all the apartments rented out to clients?
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Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2018, 11:13:35 AM »
Well there was more chance that the McCann kids would get out alive than the other families for they were able to open the doors, but the others were with deadlocked rooms.  They would need their parents to arrive there with the key before the doors could be opened to rescue them. 
I suppose in the normal run of events the chances of a house fire is more frequent than an abduction, so could it be argued it is better to have access to escape rather than being locked in.

I can't believe that people are discussing the relative merits of locking or not locking doors when leaving small children home alone. Responsible parents never do that, so never need to make that choice. Somehow that group have normalised something which should never even have been considered.
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Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2018, 11:17:39 AM »
My son, as a Professional Fire Fighter, has refused to give any advice as to what ordinary people should do.  He says that all situations are different.  And to advise when not knowing the circumstances would be stupid, if not downright dangerous.

However, he feels that if opening a door would explode the fire then it is probably too late anyway, although not absolutely certainly.  But you wouldn't know that until you opened the door.

So not much help, I'm afraid.

Offline Davel

Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2018, 11:26:39 AM »
My son, as a Professional Fire Fighter, has refused to give any advice as to what ordinary people should do.  He says that all situations are different.  And to advise when not knowing the circumstances would be stupid, if not downright dangerous.

However, he feels that if opening a door would explode the fire then it is probably too late anyway, although not absolutely certainly.  But you wouldn't know that until you opened the door.

So not much help, I'm afraid.

So the expert advice is all situations are different which is absolutely  correct..... As I've said it depends how bad the fire is....if it's a small fire it's safe to open a door... If it's raging... It obviously  isnt
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Offline Brietta

Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2018, 11:52:13 AM »
Did the Ocean Club insist on working smoke alarms in all the apartments rented out to clients?

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Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2018, 12:57:07 PM »
Did the Ocean Club insist on working smoke alarms in all the apartments rented out to clients?

Would depend on what regulations applied at the time.
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