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Would a second referendum or peoples vote achieve anything?

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John:
The question is, "Would a second referendum or peoples vote achieve anything?"

Personally I believe it would be devisive and achieve nothing in respect of any withdrawal agreement.

We had our opportunity to vote in 2016 and a majority voted to leave the EU, it is now the job of the Prime Minister to deliver that result any way she can.

A second referendum or peoples vote would simply muddy the waters even more. If remainers won by a small margin it could be argued that we should have the best of three, it undermines referendums totally.

Those who seek a further vote simply don't understand the issues IMO.

Vertigo Swirl:
I don't support a second referendum, not because I think it is undemocratic (I don't) but like John I think it will just prolong the agony and provoke even greaterd divisiveness.  Leavers have to be given exactly what they want (no deal, apparently) and the rest of us simply have to suck it up and hope for the best. 

John:

--- Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on January 16, 2019, 01:45:47 PM ---I don't support a second referendum, not because I think it is undemocratic (I don't) but like John I think it will just prolong the agony and provoke even greaterd divisiveness.  Leavers have to be given exactly what they want (no deal, apparently) and the rest of us simply have to suck it up and hope for the best.

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In most divorces the couple separate before the agreement and final settlement, I suggest Brexit should be the same.  Get out now on 29th March and do the deals afterwards.  It is on this basis that the EU is now planning ahead in order to keep disruption to a minimum.  I suggest the UK get on with it too!

Carana:

--- Quote from: John on January 16, 2019, 02:04:42 PM ---In most divorces the couple separate before the agreement and final settlement, I suggest Brexit should be the same.  Get out now on 29th March and do the deals afterwards.  It is on this basis that the EU is now planning ahead in order to keep disruption to a minimum.  I suggest the UK get on with it too!

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There's no choice as this part of Brexit was only ever about the divorce settlement, despite what certain politicians said (Liam Fox?) about trade deals being negotiated even before the official D-Day.

Vertigo Swirl:

--- Quote from: John on January 16, 2019, 02:04:42 PM ---In most divorces the couple separate before the agreement and final settlement, I suggest Brexit should be the same.  Get out now on 29th March and do the deals afterwards.  It is on this basis that the EU is now planning ahead in order to keep disruption to a minimum.  I suggest the UK get on with it too!

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Surely the separation process began with the Leave vote in the Referendum, triggering Article 50 was the Decree Nisi, and 29th March the Decree Absolut?

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