Author Topic: May 3rd 2007.  (Read 735 times)

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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: May 3rd 2007.
« Reply #75 on: July 16, 2019, 06:52:45 PM »
I would say we know they are not accurate. kate went as far as to make new statements to control risks because she found the statements to be innaccurate....these statements were then given to the PJ...Rebelo is reported to have said as much...colin sutton said the room for error was huge...

so when building a timeline surely its important  to bear in mind that the statements are not accurate nd the way tey were taken and recorded contributed to this

We could take her book as the best effort she could manage with regards to a timeline she won’t argue with, maybe, IMO??

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Re: May 3rd 2007.
« Reply #76 on: July 16, 2019, 07:39:13 PM »
According to Kate's book there was a coversation near the sun loungers on the morning of 3rd. It was about whether to cancel the Tapas booking and go to the Millennium that evening. It took place 'a little later' than the conversation with videoman. At some point before Gerry finished his lesson she went back to 5A and washed Madeleine's pyjama top and prepared lunch.

She says she went with Fiona to get the children. Fiona told her that she'd seen the Minis sailing when she was windsurfing. She had spotted E**a but not Madeleine.
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Re: May 3rd 2007.
« Reply #77 on: July 18, 2019, 07:43:26 AM »
According to his 10th May statement he took Madeleine to her club, but I'm not sure it's his signature on the sheet. What do others think?



If KM signed the crèche records at the Tapas after high tea I wonder why she didn’t put the same time out for all the children? I wonder also why do some people remember Gerry picking up MM from the crèche but other statements differ?

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Re: May 3rd 2007.
« Reply #78 on: July 18, 2019, 10:12:50 AM »
 $6(&According to Jane in her rogatory interview she initially booked the same waterfont lessons as the Paynes; sailing one day and windsurfing the next. Then she decided to do tennis. She couldn't sail then because it took place at the same time as the tennis, but she could windsurf, which began later. Thursday was a sailing day so although she, Russell and E**e went to the beach she didn't do an acrtivity there.

She thinks they met the Paynes heading back from the beach;

I think we met Dave and Fi coming back, because they’d had their second, I think they’d had their second sailing lesson...and they said they’d seen Madeleine and Ella on a boat, because they’d taken the kids sailing that morning, so they said ‘Oh we’ve seen Madeleine and Ella on a boat down there’.

And we saw, erm, they’d come off the boat and we saw Ella and Madeleine and the rest of the group, they were just, erm, they’d just come off the boat and they were getting ready to walk back up to the, erm, tut, the Kids Club, so”.

So the O'Briens got to the beach around 11 am, when the Mini-sail finished. They don't seem to have seen Matthew, who had been sailing with the Paynes and arrived back at the Tennis Courts slightly late for his 11 am lesson with Rachael.

At 12:30 they picked up E**a and had lunch in 5D with the Oldfields.
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Re: May 3rd 2007.
« Reply #79 on: July 18, 2019, 08:02:17 PM »
If KM signed the crèche records at the Tapas after high tea I wonder why she didn’t put the same time out for all the children? I wonder also why do some people remember Gerry picking up MM from the crèche but other statements differ?
The logistics of how and where the parents signed for their kids at the end of the day isn't clearly spelt out.  The younger ones more likely were picked up from the creche rather than from where the high tea was served.
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Re: May 3rd 2007.
« Reply #80 on: July 18, 2019, 09:06:03 PM »
The logistics of how and where the parents signed for their kids at the end of the day isn't clearly spelt out.  The younger ones more likely were picked up from the creche rather than from where the high tea was served.

What does KM's book say? Some accounts had the nannies taking the twins to high tea, then Gerry arriving after tennis and finally KM joins them after her run. There’s so many contradictory accounts of who did what it’s hard to pick out the commonalities.
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