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Offline barrier

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1845 on: April 26, 2019, 02:34:06 PM »
Kate and Gerry never said it nor did any other witness to the events on 3rd ... by all means search if you wish ... but I think only sceptics still believe it is an issue.

Which kind of reinforces why the support for the sceptic thread.Stop the myths.
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Offline John

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1846 on: April 26, 2019, 02:36:40 PM »
It would be quite a struggle to 'jemmy' shutters open without damaging them.

Clearly the person who initially used the phrase 'jemmied the shutter open' didn't have a clue what they were taking about.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1847 on: April 26, 2019, 02:42:11 PM »
Yet supporters are keen to dismiss it as a sceptic thing,move along nothing to see here.

Quite ... exactly so ... there is nothing to see here but misinformation.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1848 on: April 26, 2019, 02:52:04 PM »
It would be quite a struggle to 'jemmy' shutters open without damaging them.

Absolutely correct ... no-one did 'jemmy' anything.
Which recalls to mind the sceptic belief and insistence that the shutter could not be raised from the outside.  As we all now know (I think) for certain ... that belief was wrong and it was perfectly possible to raise these shutters from the outside.
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Offline The General

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1849 on: April 26, 2019, 03:38:14 PM »
Clearly the person who initially used the phrase 'jemmied the shutter open' didn't have a clue what they were taking about.
It was from Trish Cameron the day after I believe, relaying a telephone conversation with Gerry to the media.
In fact she even unsure of the terminology herself, suffixing the comment with '....or whatever you call it'. So yes, clearly she didn't really know what she was talking about, simply repeating what she had been told.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1850 on: April 26, 2019, 03:54:33 PM »
It was from Trish Cameron the day after I believe, relaying a telephone conversation with Gerry to the media.
In fact she even unsure of the terminology herself, suffixing the comment with '....or whatever you call it'. So yes, clearly she didn't really know what she was talking about, simply repeating what she had been told.

Trish read it from a script



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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1851 on: April 26, 2019, 04:07:04 PM »
Absolutely correct ... no-one did 'jemmy' anything.
Which recalls to mind the sceptic belief and insistence that the shutter could not be raised from the outside.  As we all now know (I think) for certain ... that belief was wrong and it was perfectly possible to raise these shutters from the outside.

Perfectly possible to raise the noisy shutters from outside......then. open the window (leaving no finger prints or glove marks) climb through the open window, squeeze past the cots & lift Maddie out of/from on top of (wasn't really sure which one, neither were the McCanns) the bed, then, carry Maddie back past the cots & clamber back through the window (probably a bit awkward to do whilst carrying a child but nevermind), out into the gusty tundra, all this without waking the soundly sleeping Maddie.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1852 on: April 26, 2019, 04:12:32 PM »
OK? ... you are really asking if there is concrete evidence of an investigation into Madeleine's disappearance?  That sure is a new one on me.

We know the answerphone's on, so they must be out investigating, mustn't they?
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Offline The General

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1853 on: April 26, 2019, 04:15:41 PM »
We know the answerphone's on, so they must be out investigating, mustn't they?
All 2 of them. Maybe donuts?
Nah, how many are there? 4? They'll be on 7 hour days, no ovies permitted.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1854 on: April 26, 2019, 04:26:45 PM »
"The window was open, the shutters were up none of that had been left like that and had been interfered with, the window"  Trish
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Offline barrier

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1855 on: April 26, 2019, 04:27:22 PM »
All 2 of them. Maybe donuts?
Nah, how many are there? 4? They'll be on 7 hour days, no ovies permitted.
Sucks to be them.

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Offline G-Unit

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1856 on: April 26, 2019, 04:29:22 PM »
Kate and Gerry never said it nor did any other witness to the events on 3rd ... by all means search if you wish ... but I think only sceptics still believe it is an issue.

They've said very little themselves. Most media stories quote a friend or a source. If we can't believe named people then we obviously can't believe these unnamed sources .
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Offline Brietta

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1857 on: April 26, 2019, 04:33:44 PM »
Perfectly possible to raise the noisy shutters from outside......then. open the window (leaving no finger prints or glove marks) climb through the open window, squeeze past the cots & lift Maddie out of/from on top of (wasn't really sure which one, neither were the McCanns) the bed, then, carry Maddie back past the cots & clamber back through the window (probably a bit awkward to do whilst carrying a child but nevermind), out into the gusty tundra, all this without waking the soundly sleeping Maddie.

That's true as far as raising the shutter is concerned ... I know because I've seen it done and I think you may have too.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1858 on: April 26, 2019, 04:36:24 PM »
All 2 of them. Maybe donuts?
Nah, how many are there? 4? They'll be on 7 hour days, no ovies permitted.
Sucks to be them.

I do hope they've not picked up the long lunch habit by associating with the Portuguese. .
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Offline Brietta

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1859 on: April 26, 2019, 04:37:26 PM »
They've said very little themselves. Most media stories quote a friend or a source. If we can't believe named people then we obviously can't believe these unnamed sources .
Apparently you ...
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Confirm everything ... so shouldn't present too much of a problem for you
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