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Offline Eleanor

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1080 on: April 15, 2019, 02:48:14 PM »
In my opinion you are the confused one. You seem utterly unable to grasp how I think. There were two dogs and a lot of alerts and why should I not have different opinions about different alerts? 

I have no problem if you have a different opinion of Gerry McCann's statement than I do. I've no desire to persuade you to change it, to pass judgement on your cognitive abilities, or to accuse you of adhering to a belief system. I don't care what you think.

None of us care about what someone else thinks.

Offline Davel

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1081 on: April 15, 2019, 02:50:34 PM »
In my opinion you are the confused one. You seem utterly unable to grasp how I think. There were two dogs and a lot of alerts and why should I not have different opinions about different alerts? 

I have no problem if you have a different opinion of Gerry McCann's statement than I do. I've no desire to persuade you to change it, to pass judgement on your cognitive abilities, or to accuse you of adhering to a belief system. I don't care what you think.
You must.. Like everybody else... have an opinion on the dogs... You just don't seem to have the conviction to admit it..
Either the alerts are a reliable indicators or they are not... What expertise do you have to decide which are more reliable than others...afaiac... We cannot rely on them as indicators without supporting forensic evidence.... now who said that
« Last Edit: April 15, 2019, 03:10:19 PM by Davel »
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1082 on: April 15, 2019, 02:56:20 PM »
You must.. Like everybody else... have an opinion on the dogs... You just don't seem to have the conviction to admit it..
Either the alerts are a reliable indicators or they are not... What expertise do you have to decide which are more reliable than others...afaiac... We cannot rely on them as indicators without supporting forensic evidence....

I despair.  None of The Dog Videos would ever be admissible In Court, for more reasons than one.

Offline Brietta

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1083 on: April 15, 2019, 03:03:27 PM »

I've always been intrigued as to why the dog videos have Levy's copyright stamped all over them and no time or date stamp either.
The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

Offline Eleanor

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1084 on: April 15, 2019, 03:10:24 PM »
I've always been intrigued as to why the dog videos have Levy's copyright stamped all over them and no time or date stamp either.

Levy as a Journalist had right of access and Levy messed about with them, thereby cancelling the original date stamp.  I have never understood why he did this, but he did get caught out in the end.  Ultimately he got no fame and glory, but he did cause a bit of damage with his journalistic dishonesty.

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Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1085 on: April 15, 2019, 05:14:35 PM »
In the context of the forum we are talking about the alerts in 5a and the car... I think it's clear you are confused as to exactly what you think...
I don't think Gerry was... Very foolish... At all
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Offline Davel

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1086 on: April 15, 2019, 05:18:57 PM »
G-unit has asked you to stop hassling her.  Please respect that request.

I'm not harrassing I'm simply replying to gunits posts as she has replied to mine... As long as gunit replies to my posts I'm entitled to respond.... Every post I have made has been in response to her post to me.... If she doesn't want me to respond I suggest s she ceases to direct posts ti me... For that reason please desist in accusing me of harassment
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Offline Davel

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1087 on: April 15, 2019, 05:22:11 PM »
G-unit has asked you to stop hassling her.  Please respect that request.

As far as I am concerned every poster has the right to respond to every post... Gunit has directed 8 posts towards me today... I have simply responded...with 8 posts.. That is not harassment ...
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Offline barrier

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1088 on: April 15, 2019, 05:44:21 PM »
As far as I am concerned every poster has the right to respond to every post... Gunit has directed 8 posts towards me today... I have simply responded...with 8 posts.. That is not harassment ...

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Offline Davel

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1089 on: April 15, 2019, 05:52:46 PM »
Quality will outway quantity anytime of the day.

I couldn't agree more but some of us have both... Your post could of course be described as hassling
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1090 on: April 15, 2019, 06:22:35 PM »
You must.. Like everybody else... have an opinion on the dogs... You just don't seem to have the conviction to admit it..
Either the alerts are a reliable indicators or they are not... What expertise do you have to decide which are more reliable than others...afaiac... We cannot rely on them as indicators without supporting forensic evidence.... now who said that

In my opinion you need to listen to yourself. You may have the right of reply, but you have no right to be insulting. You have no right to tell me what I must believe, think or opine. I think we have sufficient people here forcing their convictions on others without me joining in.
 
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Offline Davel

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1091 on: April 15, 2019, 06:33:55 PM »
In my opinion you need to listen to yourself. You may have the right of reply, but you have no right to be insulting. You have no right to tell me what I must believe, think or opine. I think we have sufficient people here forcing their convictions on others without me joining in.

I don't see I've been insulting and have not told you what you should believe... I don't see I've been hassling you either so can't see why you have seemed to complain to the mods... It's a discussion  forum... If you don't like my responses then dont make posts to me...because I will reply if I choose
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Offline The General

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1092 on: April 15, 2019, 06:40:50 PM »
I don't see I've been insulting and have not told you what you should believe... I don't see I've been hassling you either so can't see why you have seemed to complain to the mods... It's a discussion  forum... If you don't like my responses then dont make posts to me...because I will reply if I choose
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1093 on: April 15, 2019, 07:03:42 PM »
I think people need to accept the FACT that I don't have firm opinions.
That’s not true though is it?  You are firmly of the opinion that abduction from the apartment in the time frame would have been “virtually impossible “.  You are firmly of the opinion that the McCanns did not act of behave the way you felt you would have acted or behaved if your child had disappeared and your remaining children seemed unresponsive.  I’m sure there are other firm opinions you have regarding this case, even if you don’t want to admit to them. 
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #1094 on: April 15, 2019, 07:10:55 PM »
I don't see I've been insulting and have not told you what you should believe... I don't see I've been hassling you either so can't see why you have seemed to complain to the mods... It's a discussion  forum... If you don't like my responses then dont make posts to me...because I will reply if I choose

I'm not going to choose between 'cadaver dofs are reliable' and 'cadaver dogs are unreliable' just because you think those are the only choices. Gerry McCann used that simplistic approach and ended up looking silly imo

I don't complain to mods. 

I have no objection to discussing with you, but I won't be told what I think or what I should think. That's not discussion imo.   

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