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Offline sadie

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5490 on: May 21, 2019, 10:03:55 PM »
Sadie's theory, the watcher and a getaway car.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1327.msg37641#msg37641

Thank you Brie.

You always take the time and care to read and analyse my often over long posts.  I know that is a chore, but sometimes my posts uncover hitherto never before seen new info.

Offline Brietta

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« Reply #5491 on: May 21, 2019, 10:34:05 PM »
I found the following of interest ...

Date: 2007/07/05

Service Information

To: The Coordinator of the Criminal Investigation, G. Amaral

From: Ricardo Paiva

Subject: Emails about the whereabouts of Madeleine McCann

I compliance with your instructions, during the course of last week, the undersigned officer went to Praia da Luz to offer support and to accompany the couple Gerry and Kate McCann, parents of missing Madeleine McCann, following various emails received by the couple during the last two weeks coming from Holland, sent from the email address AMSTERDAMVU@gnail.com reporting supposed information about the whereabouts of the girl as well as about the identity and location of the abductors and referring that the author was prepared to provide this information in exchange for a large financial compensation.

The stress and anxiety of the McCann couple was visible and notable with regard to the situation, they replied quickly to the emails, which, from the beginning they believed to be genuine, given the fact that Gerry had lived in Holland and because of this the couple attributed greater importance to the emails, both expressing their conviction that the information in the emails would certainly help them to get their daughter back, even if it where necessary to spend the sum of 2 million euros demanded by the author in exchange for information about Madeleine McCann's whereabouts.

I bring this to your attention.

Signed

Inspector Ricardo Paiva

The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

Online pathfinder73

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« Reply #5492 on: May 22, 2019, 01:47:28 AM »
ENTER lollipop man!

Informed of these mails, the Portuguese PJ, acting in agreement with the English and Dutch police, engage in negotiations by email with the informant. The police advise Gerald McCann on how to act in order to obtain the maximum information. If the lead turned out to be credible, Madeleine might be freed and her abductors captured.

One day, we were all together at the PJ in Portimão - inspectors and negotiators, members of Scotland Yard and the Leicestershire police - waiting for a contact to define the place and the conditions for the handing over of the money in Holland; when the tension was at its height and we were all holding our breath, Gerald McCann displayed a nonchalance that surprised all of the police officers present, including the English. The atmosphere got heavier as the waiting drew out, but McCann, relaxed, was reading trivia on the internet and discussing rugby and football with the English police, while licking a lollipop. On the telephone, he laughed with friends who called him. Perhaps this was nervousness; sometimes it's totally displaced, given what is at stake at the time. His attitude shocked. When, two days later the dutch police informed us that the individual had been arrested, that he was not holding any information and had lied from start to finish with the sole objective of extorting money from the couple, we were not surprised. (TOTL)
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Brietta

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« Reply #5493 on: May 22, 2019, 02:19:51 AM »
ENTER lollipop man!

Informed of these mails, the Portuguese PJ, acting in agreement with the English and Dutch police, engage in negotiations by email with the informant. The police advise Gerald McCann on how to act in order to obtain the maximum information. If the lead turned out to be credible, Madeleine might be freed and her abductors captured.

One day, we were all together at the PJ in Portimão - inspectors and negotiators, members of Scotland Yard and the Leicestershire police - waiting for a contact to define the place and the conditions for the handing over of the money in Holland; when the tension was at its height and we were all holding our breath, Gerald McCann displayed a nonchalance that surprised all of the police officers present, including the English. The atmosphere got heavier as the waiting drew out, but McCann, relaxed, was reading trivia on the internet and discussing rugby and football with the English police, while licking a lollipop. On the telephone, he laughed with friends who called him. Perhaps this was nervousness; sometimes it's totally displaced, given what is at stake at the time. His attitude shocked. When, two days later the dutch police informed us that the individual had been arrested, that he was not holding any information and had lied from start to finish with the sole objective of extorting money from the couple, we were not surprised. (TOTL)
Your source is after all a book written about lies by a convicted perjurer ... probably best then to take it with a pinch of salt.
The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

Online Lace

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5494 on: May 22, 2019, 12:15:59 PM »
ENTER lollipop man!

Informed of these mails, the Portuguese PJ, acting in agreement with the English and Dutch police, engage in negotiations by email with the informant. The police advise Gerald McCann on how to act in order to obtain the maximum information. If the lead turned out to be credible, Madeleine might be freed and her abductors captured.

One day, we were all together at the PJ in Portimão - inspectors and negotiators, members of Scotland Yard and the Leicestershire police - waiting for a contact to define the place and the conditions for the handing over of the money in Holland; when the tension was at its height and we were all holding our breath, Gerald McCann displayed a nonchalance that surprised all of the police officers present, including the English. The atmosphere got heavier as the waiting drew out, but McCann, relaxed, was reading trivia on the internet and discussing rugby and football with the English police, while licking a lollipop. On the telephone, he laughed with friends who called him. Perhaps this was nervousness; sometimes it's totally displaced, given what is at stake at the time. His attitude shocked. When, two days later the dutch police informed us that the individual had been arrested, that he was not holding any information and had lied from start to finish with the sole objective of extorting money from the couple, we were not surprised. (TOTL)

As usual Amaral  tries to give the impression that Gerry was cold and unconcerned.   When others were probably trying to lighten the mood for him     Then at the end Amaral makes an innuendo that Gerry was somehow 'in on it'   disgusting.

Offline Erngath

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« Reply #5495 on: May 22, 2019, 06:07:11 PM »
As usual Amaral  tries to give the impression that Gerry was cold and unconcerned.   When others were probably trying to lighten the mood for him     Then at the end Amaral makes an innuendo that Gerry was somehow 'in on it'   disgusting.

I do wonder why Amaral felt the need to portray Gerry as being cold and unconcerned, apart from his portrayal of Gerry and Kate in the "praying Arabs" scenario in his documentary which he admitted in the Netflix documentary was very exaggerated.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

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« Reply #5496 on: May 22, 2019, 06:16:23 PM »
I do wonder why Amaral felt the need to portray Gerry as being cold and unconcerned, apart from his portrayal of Gerry and Kate in the "praying Arabs" scenario in his documentary which he admitted in the Netflix documentary was very exaggerated.
Did he really make that admission?  To get someone like Amaral to admit to an exaggeration is significant.
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Online Davel

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« Reply #5497 on: May 22, 2019, 06:17:59 PM »
Did he really make that admission?  To get someone like Amaral to admit to an exaggeration is significant.

 dont think its of any importance now...imo...the present investigation ...both PJ and SY  think amaral hadnt got  a clue
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Offline Erngath

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« Reply #5498 on: May 22, 2019, 06:27:41 PM »
Did he really make that admission?  To get someone like Amaral to admit to an exaggeration is significant.

He did.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Erngath

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« Reply #5499 on: May 22, 2019, 06:28:40 PM »
dont think its of any importance now...imo...the present investigation ...both PJ and SY  think amaral hadnt got  a clue

It isn't.
And obviously he didn't.
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Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5500 on: May 22, 2019, 06:32:05 PM »
dont think its of any importance now...imo...the present investigation ...both PJ and SY  think amaral hadnt got  a clue
Having Amaral himself admitting he didn't have a clue would be more significant.  I nearly deleted your post because I don't think you can actually prove your statement when you say: "both PJ and SY  think amaral hadnt got  a clue".  Don't exaggerate yourself either.
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« Reply #5501 on: May 22, 2019, 06:34:00 PM »
It isn't.
And obviously he didn't.
Remember when it is opinion let the forum know - 
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Online Davel

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« Reply #5502 on: May 22, 2019, 06:34:40 PM »
Having Amaral himself admitting he didn't have a clue would be more significant.  I nearly deleted your post because I don't think you can actually prove your statement when you say: "both PJ and SY  think amaral hadnt got  a clue".  Don't exaggerate yourself either.

read the post again...I said imo.....could you delete your insulting comment to me..
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Online Davel

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« Reply #5503 on: May 22, 2019, 06:35:42 PM »
Remember when it is opinion let the forum know -

it states its opinion...
UNLESS OTHERWISE STATED ALL POSTS ARE MY OPINION

Online Davel

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« Reply #5504 on: May 22, 2019, 06:39:17 PM »
dont think its of any importance now...imo...the present investigation ...both PJ and SY  think amaral hadnt got  a clue

the first part of the psot says  think...indicating opinion...teh second half is prefaced by ...imo
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