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Online Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4770 on: January 08, 2019, 09:02:00 AM »
As I understand it, Portuguese law doesn't allow cameras to be placed where they might pick up members of the public.

I thought that was true, and I did read it somewhere.

Offline jassi

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4771 on: January 08, 2019, 09:04:09 AM »
BTW, while you were watching Colin Sutton on ITV there was a truly brilliant drama on C4 entitled “An Uncivil War” - catch it if you can.

Haven't seen it yet, but the Guardian critic doesn't rate it - though not sure if that's the acting or the content
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/jan/07/brexit-the-uncivil-war-review-superficial-irresponsible-tv-cumberbatch

The Independent rates it higher -
 https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/reviews/brexit-uncivil-war-review-benedict-cumberbatch-hbo-channel-4-dominic-cummings-vote-leave-remain-a8700286.html
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
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Or maybe not -   Into year 13 and still no solution.

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #4772 on: January 08, 2019, 09:04:34 AM »
I thought that was true, and I did read it somewhere.

Apparently France has the same attitude to CCTV.
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Online Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4773 on: January 08, 2019, 09:06:22 AM »
Apparently France has the same attitude to CCTV.

Really?  Although I must say that I have never seen one.

Except on Motorways catching Speeders.

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #4774 on: January 08, 2019, 09:20:22 AM »
Really?  Although I must say that I have never seen one.

Except on Motorways catching Speeders.

I think ATM's have them, but otherwise it's private property only. That means you can train a camera onto your front door or garden, but not onto the street outside your house.
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Online Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4775 on: January 08, 2019, 09:26:00 AM »
I think ATM's have them, but otherwise it's private property only. That means you can train a camera onto your front door or garden, but not onto the street outside your house.

No one does a lot of robbing around here.  But I suppose the time might come.

But in principal, I don't have a problem with CCTV.

Offline Faithlilly

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« Reply #4776 on: January 08, 2019, 10:07:59 AM »
Estrela is fully secure with a 24hr reception & CCTV so not at all like MW site.
Perhaps you would address the point in my post as to why no-one apparently noticed the CCTV & management failed to offer the tapes to the police immediately just in case there was something relevant on them.

Not sure why you are addressing the question to me. I think writing to the appropriate employees might be more productive.
'She ( Kate) did, she brought it up and that she, I mean, this is awful in retrospect as well, she asked what my opinion was on, erm, tut, on whether they were okay leaving the, the doors unlocked, because she was saying 'Is it better that if Madeleine wakes up she can get out and find us or', erm, 'or locking it and, you know, finding that we're not there and the door's locked if she woke up', because Madeleine had woken up, what I thought was the night before. Erm, tut, and it was in that context really, just asking, you know, what I thought. So it was obviously something that was on her mind a bit, huh'.

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #4777 on: January 08, 2019, 10:14:08 AM »
No one does a lot of robbing around here.  But I suppose the time might come.

But in principal, I don't have a problem with CCTV.

I don't have a problem with it because I don't do anything wrong and it can do good. I expect those countries who have rejected it have reasons for doing so, however.
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Offline jassi

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« Reply #4778 on: January 08, 2019, 10:29:01 AM »
I suppose it will be to do with rights of the individual  and not wishing to introduce unnecessary surveillance into their society.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -   Into year 13 and still no solution.

Online Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4779 on: January 08, 2019, 10:30:54 AM »

We don't actually need CCTV in this village.  Everyone sees everything.  Due to the boring rural lives we all lead.

Offline Brietta

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« Reply #4780 on: January 08, 2019, 01:43:10 PM »
I suppose it will be to do with rights of the individual  and not wishing to introduce unnecessary surveillance into their society.

I was converted on viewing the CCTV coverage of the two older children leading James Bulger from the shopping precinct to the place where they murdered him.

Until that time few people would have credited two young boys with such a crime.

I think CCTV probably saved lots of investigative time and deployment of personnel looking for an adult perpetrator because who would have given immediate thought to children.
The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #4781 on: January 08, 2019, 06:10:45 PM »
Haven't seen it yet, but the Guardian critic doesn't rate it - though not sure if that's the acting or the content
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/jan/07/brexit-the-uncivil-war-review-superficial-irresponsible-tv-cumberbatch

The Independent rates it higher -
 https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/reviews/brexit-uncivil-war-review-benedict-cumberbatch-hbo-channel-4-dominic-cummings-vote-leave-remain-a8700286.html
I donít rate the Guardian, bunch of po-faced holier-than-thous.  The Times gave it four stars but best make your own mind up about it. 
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4782 on: January 08, 2019, 08:54:41 PM »
We don't actually need CCTV in this village.  Everyone sees everything.  Due to the boring rural lives we all lead.


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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4783 on: January 08, 2019, 08:57:43 PM »
I was converted on viewing the CCTV coverage of the two older children leading James Bulger from the shopping precinct to the place where they murdered him.

Until that time few people would have credited two young boys with such a crime.

I think CCTV probably saved lots of investigative time and deployment of personnel looking for an adult perpetrator because who would have given immediate thought to children.


Oh I don't believe I am agreeing with you... but I do concur with those sentiments. I cried watching that cctv it just pierced my heart.

In Scotland all pubs must have CCTV cameras at the door , even if they have 'security'.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline John

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4784 on: January 09, 2019, 12:08:35 PM »
When you saw how the NOTW’s threat to publish information about the investigation before the suspect’s arrest could have skewed the whole investigation you can see what the PJ were up against with half the world’s media camped on their doorstep, looking for copy.

I found that particularly interesting given the demise of that Murdoch rag and some who worked at it. The Press have always had far too much power to influence events in this country with the current Brexit debacle being a current example.

The fact that the Met couldn't stop the News of the World from printing a story concerning a live murder enquiry is worrying.
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