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Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #1740 on: May 13, 2019, 11:12:03 PM »
Is anyone able to explain to me why the Brexit Party considers it necessary to field candidates in the forthcoming MEP elections?

https://twitter.com/guyverhofstadt/status/1127564798298918912 ?

Have you seen the video of Bannon chatting to Farage?
« Last Edit: May 13, 2019, 11:18:24 PM by Carana »

Offline misty

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #1741 on: May 14, 2019, 12:56:54 AM »
https://twitter.com/guyverhofstadt/status/1127564798298918912 ?

Have you seen the video of Bannon chatting to Farage?

I've just watched it. So is Farage trying to get an Alt-Right group into mainstream UK politics by the back door?

Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #1742 on: May 14, 2019, 05:57:36 AM »
I've just watched it. So is Farage trying to get an Alt-Right group into mainstream UK politics by the back door?

There's also a longish documentary CH4 (?). Seems to be the goal for elsewhere in Europe as well.

Here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pold15c8H70

And https://twitter.com/anneapplebaum/status/1127552223322546176
« Last Edit: May 14, 2019, 07:09:38 AM by Carana »

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Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #1744 on: May 17, 2019, 09:00:46 AM »
'Now is the time': the journalists fighting fake news before the EU elections

With warnings of likely Russian meddling, Europeís debunkers are picking up the pace

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/16/now-is-the-time-the-journalists-fighting-fake-news-before-the-eu-elections

I'm still trying to work out:

a) how far Russia (plus possibly other players) and the US / UK (or pan-EU) far-right are actively collaborating for financial or other strategic benefits;

b) whether there's an ad hoc passive mutual support system; or

c) to what extent there may simply be an abundance of fortuitous connections...

Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #1745 on: May 17, 2019, 09:13:34 AM »
I've watched many politicians being interviewed and none of them can deny that they have failed to implement  Brexit. They have a multitude of ezcuses but that doesn't change the fact that they have ignored the people's vote. That vote only happened because of Farrage and he's only back because the politicians seem unable tp understand the damage they've done to democracy. Farrage's aim this time is to change our democracy by ending the two party system. I would advise politicians not to underestimate him.

I can agree with part of that, G-Unit, except that in 2016 all that was on the ballot paper was "Leave" or "Remain".

Not even the politicians seem to agree on what "Leave" meant in terms of formula, nor what each could entail, so how could the electorate?
« Last Edit: May 17, 2019, 09:17:21 AM by Carana »

Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #1746 on: May 17, 2019, 09:22:29 AM »
Farage wants to embarrassing the UK government by sending Brexit MEPs to the EU.

How will that improve the revenue from your farm, John?


Offline G-Unit

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #1747 on: May 17, 2019, 09:46:29 AM »
I can agree with part of that, G-Unit, except that in 2016 all that was on the ballot paper was "Leave" or "Remain".

Not even the politicians seem to agree on what "Leave" meant in terms of formula, nor what each could entail, so how could the electorate?

The difference between Leave and Remain is perfectly clear to me, and, I suspect, to politicians alsi. It's not that they don't understand, imo, it's that they don't want to admit that they understand.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #1748 on: May 17, 2019, 09:51:31 AM »
How will that improve the revenue from your farm, John?

Is  improving revenue the only thing that matters?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #1749 on: May 17, 2019, 04:45:49 PM »
Is  improving revenue the only thing that matters?
it is if you want to keep the farm. 
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #1750 on: May 17, 2019, 07:26:07 PM »
it is if you want to keep the farm.

Even keeping revenue stable..

Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #1751 on: May 17, 2019, 08:43:30 PM »
For VS (and for Alice),

Leave.EU founder confirms he funded Nigel Farage in year after referendum

Nigel Farage received £450,000 from the founder of pro-Brexit group Leave.EU in the year after the Brexit referendum.

Items paid for by Arron Banks included Mr Farage's London home, his car and trips to the US to meet Donald Trump.

A spokesman for Mr Banks confirmed the amount and what it had been used for, saying it was an "honour to help".

Asked about the funding following an investigation by Channel 4 News, Mr Farage - who now leads the Brexit party - said it was a private matter.

Speaking at the launch of the Brexit party campaign in Scotland, Mr Farage said he did not declare the it to the European Parliament because he was about to leave politics and had been seeking a new life in the US.

He added his actions had been non-political.

Mr Farage has been a member of the European Parliament since 1999.

He led UKIP in the run-up to the 2016 EU referendum, campaigning alongside Leave.EU, of which Mr Banks was a major financier.

Mr Farage stepped down as leader later the same year, but remained as an MEP.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48315552

Offline G-Unit

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #1752 on: May 24, 2019, 12:19:20 PM »
it is if you want to keep the farm.

Is there anything more important than money in your opinion?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #1753 on: May 24, 2019, 05:05:58 PM »
Is there anything more important than money in your opinion?
Keeping the farm is more than just being about money.  Itís about your purpose in life, itís about a roof over your head, itís about performing a service for the people of this country, itís about carrying on a family business, itís about caring for the countryside and the creatures that occupy it , itís about keeping people employed rurally rather than forcing them to move to the cities.  I find your constant accusations to me that I am solely money focused more than a little insulting so kindly refrain in future.  Thank you.
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #1754 on: May 24, 2019, 08:15:18 PM »
'Now is the time': the journalists fighting fake news before the EU elections

With warnings of likely Russian meddling, Europeís debunkers are picking up the pace

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/16/now-is-the-time-the-journalists-fighting-fake-news-before-the-eu-elections

I'm still trying to work out:

a) how far Russia (plus possibly other players) and the US / UK (or pan-EU) far-right are actively collaborating for financial or other strategic benefits;

b) whether there's an ad hoc passive mutual support system; or

c) to what extent there may simply be an abundance of fortuitous connections...


Well now that you mention it. the EU has been secretly been at the UK for years to get rid of the NHS in the UK and have it privatised- which it has done. (The partnerships) this opened the door for 'charities' and greed merchants to provide 'services' and they need zero hours slave labour types of conditions - hence immigration being 'important'. Wages have been driven down- work loads have increased- nurses have become 'corporate dahlings' meetings meetings lots of meetings.  Yes money has poured into the NHS but none for direct patient care. And don't even ask about Technology companies...

Don't ask me I only observe it.. the stats say everything is fantastic and wonderful and we are not privitising the NHS- very true they are not -because they have already done so!
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin