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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3690 on: April 21, 2019, 05:03:05 PM »
What or whom is Joanna Yeates?


I find the oddest things by accident as I read reports in the media, then go looking for a tweet they say was posted... It brings you too the most random people, whom I cannot understand why they would tweet...

These tweets in some cases have disappeared, but are there on the basis that someone re-tweetd said tweet...

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"Please spread the word about my missing cousin Joanna Yeates on twitter. Please copy the following and retweet - focus especially on celebrities," she writes.


"Joanna Yeates has been missing from her home in Bristol for 6 days. Any info, please call police. Thanks xx"


https://news.sky.com/story/twitter-spreads-word-about-missing-joanna-10490311

The part I have highlighted in bold is what I was looking for on twitter, and it turned up these 2 tweets...

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#helpfindjo Joanna Yeates has been missing from her home in Bristol for 6 days. Any info, please call police. @SallyBercow @caitlinmoran

10:05 am - 23 Dec 2010

https://twitter.com/calflyn/status/18004194241810432

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Joanna Yeates has been missing from her home in Bristol for 6 days.  If you have any information call Operation... http://fb.me/PguNA4mI

2:50 pm - 23 Dec 2010

https://twitter.com/CheshireSar/status/18076091474247680

Maybe all search and rescue services tweeted about Joanna yeates, but I do not know.... I was more interested in why someone would tweet at Sally Bercow??

So I went to see if she had tweeted anything to do with the case, odd thing being, her account states it started in 2013...  And i couldn't find anything directly to do with the case and Sally Bercow.... But I found these retweets from the time..

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RT @SallyBercow: Chris Jefferies: It's a worrying insight into police work - arrest nearest oddball and see what the tabloids dig up.

8:59 am - 2 Jan 2011

https://twitter.com/andyjameshicks/status/21611591057285120

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RT @SallyBercow: Daily Mail article on Christopher Jefferies uses the word 'bachelor' EIGHT times. Because murderers are never married.

8:58 am - 2 Jan 2011

https://twitter.com/andyjameshicks/status/21611240551878656

I'm slightly confused.... It is an apparent simple murder.... Yet we have every Tom , Dick and Harry being informed of the fact that Joanna Yeates is Missing... And that CJ has been arrested....

Why would it be relevant to The Speakers wife??  Did the speakers wife tweet about `jefferies originally as, the re-tweet suggests??

Why all this interest from politicians??  I don't get it....

What happened to Sally Bercows account?? 

I have noticed many twitter users whom have made tweets about this case, that when I go and look at their profile, they have joined twitter years later... Someone who knows about twitter please explain....

But I go back to ... who is Joanna Yeates??  Or what does Joanna Yeates mean??

I just find it odd that is all.....

Or Have I misinterpreted it??


https://twitter.com/SallyBercow?lang=en-gb

Edit... I don't understand why when Joanna Yeates was a Missing person, people would be aiming their tweets at The Speakers wife?  Very strange..



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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3691 on: April 21, 2019, 06:09:45 PM »
What or whom is Joanna Yeates?


I find the oddest things by accident as I read reports in the media, then go looking for a tweet they say was posted... It brings you too the most random people, whom I cannot understand why they would tweet...

These tweets in some cases have disappeared, but are there on the basis that someone re-tweetd said tweet...

https://news.sky.com/story/twitter-spreads-word-about-missing-joanna-10490311

The part I have highlighted in bold is what I was looking for on twitter, and it turned up these 2 tweets...

https://twitter.com/calflyn/status/18004194241810432

https://twitter.com/CheshireSar/status/18076091474247680

Maybe all search and rescue services tweeted about Joanna yeates, but I do not know.... I was more interested in why someone would tweet at Sally Bercow??

So I went to see if she had tweeted anything to do with the case, odd thing being, her account states it started in 2013...  And i couldn't find anything directly to do with the case and Sally Bercow.... But I found these retweets from the time..

https://twitter.com/andyjameshicks/status/21611591057285120

https://twitter.com/andyjameshicks/status/21611240551878656

I'm slightly confused.... It is an apparent simple murder.... Yet we have every Tom , Dick and Harry being informed of the fact that Joanna Yeates is Missing... And that CJ has been arrested....

Why would it be relevant to The Speakers wife??  Did the speakers wife tweet about `jefferies originally as, the re-tweet suggests??

Why all this interest from politicians??  I don't get it....

What happened to Sally Bercows account?? 

I have noticed many twitter users whom have made tweets about this case, that when I go and look at their profile, they have joined twitter years later... Someone who knows about twitter please explain....

But I go back to ... who is Joanna Yeates??  Or what does Joanna Yeates mean??

I just find it odd that is all.....

Or Have I misinterpreted it??


https://twitter.com/SallyBercow?lang=en-gb

Edit... I don't understand why when Joanna Yeates was a Missing person, people would be aiming their tweets at The Speakers wife?  Very strange..

Sally Bercow deleted her Twitter account in 2012 https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/283534/Sally-Bercow-deletes-Twitter-account-after-yet-ANOTHER-gaffe

She obviously opened another one in 2013. She obviously expressed an interest in Joanna's disappearance. Again no mystery.

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3692 on: April 21, 2019, 06:55:10 PM »
I'm making an observation that is all...

Here's another observation from twitter, but this time it's from Ben Birchall PA photographer..

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New flash batteries, cards formatted and an early night. Bring on the game mr Vincent Tabak...

7:37 am - 23 Jan 2011

https://twitter.com/BenBirchallUK/status/29200998736076800

What an odd statement.... Who is Vincent Tabak,?? whom is he referring too??  Why say Bring on the game Mr Vincent Tabak??

And why the formatting of cards??

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Judge in Tabak case has ordered contempt of court photographing outside the pen. And I have a signed letter in my pocket to prove it!

7:13 am - 14 Oct 2011

https://twitter.com/BenBirchallUK/status/124850440704765952

Why would that be an issue?? 

I am presuming he means the pen that the media are gathered in.... Therefore, whom were they not allowed to take images of??

Why would he tweet these tweets? why would he ask for Dr Vincent Tabak to Bring on the game?? This game beginning and starting on the 23rd January 2011, the day after Dr Vincent Tabak's charge!!

And you wonder why I say it doesn't make sense!

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Tabak case is getting a bit..... Well, you know....

3:52 am - 14 Oct 2011

https://twitter.com/BenBirchallUK/status/124799852075945984

Getting a bit what??  Because I do not know....


Edit.... At this point being the 23rd January 2011 no-one is supposed to know whom this Dutch national is... So why ask him to bring on the game??

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3693 on: April 22, 2019, 08:27:25 AM »
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Thinking of Jo Yeates' family as Tabak admits manslaughter. After reporting on Xmas Day that police had found Jo, my heart goes out to them.

3:28 am - 5 May 2011

https://twitter.com/teggster/status/66086943473139712

This tweet from BBC's radio Bristol, had me wondering if this was a reason that Dr Vincent Tabak was a suspect in late December 2010 as Ann Reddrop had stated.

I could never understand why Ann Reddrop had Dr Vincent Tabak in her sights since late December 2010, but if this tweet is as I read it, then Dr Vincent Tabak, had reported somewhere that the Police had found Joanna Yeates body...

Where was this information reported??

Or have I got this wrong?? Is she talking about herself? or the Yeates?  Tweets are difficult to interpret sometimes.

Edit..  quoting myself here..

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then Dr Vincent Tabak, had reported somewhere that the Police had found Joanna Yeates body...

That is my error... It doesn't say body... It just says found Jo.... 

So how do I take that?? 

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3694 on: April 22, 2019, 05:27:22 PM »
What or whom is Joanna Yeates?


I find the oddest things by accident as I read reports in the media, then go looking for a tweet they say was posted... It brings you too the most random people, whom I cannot understand why they would tweet...

These tweets in some cases have disappeared, but are there on the basis that someone re-tweetd said tweet...

https://news.sky.com/story/twitter-spreads-word-about-missing-joanna-10490311

The part I have highlighted in bold is what I was looking for on twitter, and it turned up these 2 tweets...

https://twitter.com/calflyn/status/18004194241810432

https://twitter.com/CheshireSar/status/18076091474247680

Maybe all search and rescue services tweeted about Joanna yeates, but I do not know.... I was more interested in why someone would tweet at Sally Bercow??

So I went to see if she had tweeted anything to do with the case, odd thing being, her account states it started in 2013...  And i couldn't find anything directly to do with the case and Sally Bercow.... But I found these retweets from the time..

https://twitter.com/andyjameshicks/status/21611591057285120

https://twitter.com/andyjameshicks/status/21611240551878656

I'm slightly confused.... It is an apparent simple murder.... Yet we have every Tom , Dick and Harry being informed of the fact that Joanna Yeates is Missing... And that CJ has been arrested....

Why would it be relevant to The Speakers wife??  Did the speakers wife tweet about `jefferies originally as, the re-tweet suggests??

Why all this interest from politicians??  I don't get it....

What happened to Sally Bercows account?? 

I have noticed many twitter users whom have made tweets about this case, that when I go and look at their profile, they have joined twitter years later... Someone who knows about twitter please explain....

But I go back to ... who is Joanna Yeates??  Or what does Joanna Yeates mean??

I just find it odd that is all.....

Or Have I misinterpreted it??


https://twitter.com/SallyBercow?lang=en-gb

Edit... I don't understand why when Joanna Yeates was a Missing person, people would be aiming their tweets at The Speakers wife?  Very strange..

What or whom is Joanna Yeates. 

Is that about the best you have to offer a poor innocent beautiful woman, murdered by a perverted monster. 

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3695 on: April 22, 2019, 06:14:02 PM »
What or whom is Joanna Yeates. 

Is that about the best you have to offer a poor innocent beautiful woman, murdered by a perverted monster.

I meant in the context of her not being just an ordinary person....  Therefore her Missing becoming high profile, others were Missing at the time....

Also with parliament discussing CJ on 4th Feb 2011, I was trying to understand why they were so front and centre...

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3696 on: April 22, 2019, 06:41:04 PM »
I meant in the context of her not being just an ordinary person....  Therefore her Missing becoming high profile, others were Missing at the time....

Also with parliament discussing CJ on 4th Feb 2011, I was trying to understand why they were so front and centre...

Joanna Yeates is just one of a group in becoming a "high profile missing person". I imagine what sets all of them apart from the countless other, probably now forgotten, missing is a certain je ne c'est quoi. In Joanna's case, it was on top of the Christmas holiday period, a highly emotive time when traditionally families are together and celebrating. For the Yeates', there was the potential of an empty chair at their table.

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3697 on: April 22, 2019, 07:07:47 PM »
I meant in the context of her not being just an ordinary person....  Therefore her Missing becoming high profile, others were Missing at the time....

Also with parliament discussing CJ on 4th Feb 2011, I was trying to understand why they were so front and centre...

Because it was clear that something untoward had happened to her!

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3698 on: April 22, 2019, 07:27:24 PM »
https://twitter.com/teggster/status/66086943473139712

This tweet from BBC's radio Bristol, had me wondering if this was a reason that Dr Vincent Tabak was a suspect in late December 2010 as Ann Reddrop had stated.

I could never understand why Ann Reddrop had Dr Vincent Tabak in her sights since late December 2010, but if this tweet is as I read it, then Dr Vincent Tabak, had reported somewhere that the Police had found Joanna Yeates body...

Where was this information reported??

Or have I got this wrong?? Is she talking about herself? or the Yeates?  Tweets are difficult to interpret sometimes.

Edit..  quoting myself here..

That is my error... It doesn't say body... It just says found Jo.... 

So how do I take that??


How do you take that?!!!!!  I read it as that by addressing her by her given name, she was being awarded the dignity that Tabak had robbed her of when he took her life and ignominiously dumped her body.

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3699 on: April 22, 2019, 08:18:13 PM »

How do you take that?!!!!!  I read it as that by addressing her by her given name, she was being awarded the dignity that Tabak had robbed her of when he took her life and ignominiously dumped her body.

Depends on context,... eg..

* Had they found her barely alive? 

* Had the information been released before we were officially told?

I have posted before that BDP had on their website dated 24th December 2010, that Joanna Yeates was dead...

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JO YEATES
24/12/2010

Our thoughts are with the family and friends and colleagues of Jo Yeates, landscape architect in our Bristol studio, whose disappearance and tragic death over the Christmas period remain a mystery.

http://www.bdp.com/en/latest/news/2010/Jo-Yeates/

Does this support an idea, that the police were informed that Joanna yeates had been found??

Did Dr Vincent Tabak read BDP's website and say something to the Police about it??

Who posted said post on BDP's website...??

That should have been evidence brought to trial, proving that Dr Vincent Tabak knew exactly what was going on.... But he was away at the time,... Of course he could have had access to a computer, but I do not know if he had log-in access to this web page of BDP... So someone appears to have been in the know...  And I have asked whether the Longwood Lane activities were staged`? Or, delayed?? 

As we get the massive amounts of Fire Brigade appliances attending, without an apparent reason, seeing as the Police and scientific services could manage to remove a body from a grass verge, without the help of around 7 different fire appliances...winches.. etc... ...

At 2:07 of the video we can see the beginning of the Fire Trucks arriving..

https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/missing-woman-joanna-yeates-police-find-body-general-news-footage/688789862?adppopup=true



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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3700 on: April 22, 2019, 08:19:07 PM »
https://twitter.com/teggster/status/66086943473139712

This tweet from BBC's radio Bristol, had me wondering if this was a reason that Dr Vincent Tabak was a suspect in late December 2010 as Ann Reddrop had stated.

I could never understand why Ann Reddrop had Dr Vincent Tabak in her sights since late December 2010, but if this tweet is as I read it, then Dr Vincent Tabak, had reported somewhere that the Police had found Joanna Yeates body...

Where was this information reported??

Or have I got this wrong?? Is she talking about herself? or the Yeates?  Tweets are difficult to interpret sometimes.

Edit..  quoting myself here..

That is my error... It doesn't say body... It just says found Jo.... 

So how do I take that??

That's NOT what it says - the person is saying that THEY reported it - as in a news broadcast!

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3701 on: April 22, 2019, 08:36:42 PM »
I have a spare pair of walking boots and walking shoes in my car all the time, my wife has extra pairs as well, we swap and change if we call at a pub for lunch.  I canít help but feel such sadness for this family and esp Joanna, such a beautiful innocent girl, my heart bleeds for them and I know any normal person has this same feeling.  Itís what nightmareís are made of,  your daughter coming across a perverted monster such as Tabak.

I understand, but I find things odd with this case.....

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Joanna Yeates murder: Clifton suspension bridge and body site
Joanna Yeates murder: Clifton suspension bridge and body site; Police vehicles parked in lane as officer along and forensics tent covering site where body was found just visible / police car along / police officers and vehicles in lane

Forensic tent visible to left hand side...

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Joanna Yeates murder trial: defendant Vincent Tabak gives evidence
Joanna Yeates murder trial: defendant Vincent Tabak gives evidence; 27.12.2010 EXT Family along at scene where Joanna Yeates body was found

https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/joanna-yeates-murder-trial-defendant-vincent-tabak-gives-news-footage/656414346?adppopup=true

This video was shot when the Yeates visited Longwood Lane on the 27th December 2010..

I do still not understand why they were allowed to walk around a potential crime scene... If you again look to the left under the vehicle you can see that the forensic tent is still in place whilst they are allowed to walk around the area...

I find it extraordinary, that is all...   Why would you want to cause the victims family more distress whilst under the glare of the media, at a crime scene with forensic tent still in situ, and no-one with a brain cell thought to protect, the scene of crime, or The Yeates from such an experience?

It strikes me as odd that is all...

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3702 on: April 22, 2019, 08:52:48 PM »
I understand, but I find things odd with this case.....

Forensic tent visible to left hand side...

https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/clifton-suspension-bridge-and-body-site-police-vehicles-news-footage/688036836?adppopup=true


https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/joanna-yeates-murder-trial-defendant-vincent-tabak-gives-news-footage/656414346?adppopup=true

This video was shot when the Yeates visited Longwood Lane on the 27th December 2010..

I do still not understand why they were allowed to walk around a potential crime scene... If you again look to the left under the vehicle you can see that the forensic tent is still in place whilst they are allowed to walk around the area...

I find it extraordinary, that is all...   Why would you want to cause the victims family more distress whilst under the glare of the media, at a crime scene with forensic tent still in situ, and no-one with a brain cell thought to protect, the scene of crime, or The Yeates from such an experience?

It strikes me as odd that is all...

Her parents must have wanted to visit the scene and they were protecting the scene - that's what the tents are for!

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3703 on: April 22, 2019, 09:05:02 PM »
Frankly, you come over as being determined to make, as many as possible, two plus twos make five. What doesn't, you twist until it does. How is, for instance, you find acceptable that a poster here, as so many of us do, keeps a spare pair of shoes in his car, yet question/find it worthy of comment, that Joanna Yeates does the same? You seem equally determined that pictures taken at the crime scene have, in some way, been falsified. If you had access to every s.o.c. which involved murder -rather than the ones which hit the headlines and you become obsessed with- you'd probably find that they're all treated in the same way, ie there probably isn't a competent pathologist on hand to determine method/T.O.D.and it's perfectly possible that, at some point, the scene may become disturbed because when operatives are human, errors have been known to occur. This isn't the slick, competent, always do it correctly exercises carried out by the NCIS and other television series. This is real life and it isn't always run the way we imagine.

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3704 on: April 22, 2019, 09:49:48 PM »
Depends on context,... eg..

* Had they found her barely alive? 

* Had the information been released before we were officially told?

I have posted before that BDP had on their website dated 24th December 2010, that Joanna Yeates was dead...

http://www.bdp.com/en/latest/news/2010/Jo-Yeates/

Does this support an idea, that the police were informed that Joanna yeates had been found??

Did Dr Vincent Tabak read BDP's website and say something to the Police about it??

Who posted said post on BDP's website...??

That should have been evidence brought to trial, proving that Dr Vincent Tabak knew exactly what was going on.... But he was away at the time,... Of course he could have had access to a computer, but I do not know if he had log-in access to this web page of BDP... So someone appears to have been in the know...  And I have asked whether the Longwood Lane activities were staged`? Or, delayed?? 

As we get the massive amounts of Fire Brigade appliances attending, without an apparent reason, seeing as the Police and scientific services could manage to remove a body from a grass verge, without the help of around 7 different fire appliances...winches.. etc... ...

At 2:07 of the video we can see the beginning of the Fire Trucks arriving..

https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/missing-woman-joanna-yeates-police-find-body-general-news-footage/688789862?adppopup=true
What other reason could the fire brigade be in attendance for?  Other than to assist,

The fire brigade and police work hand in hand a lot of times, they assist and are trained with body bags and carrying, thereís a drop behind the wall on one side of the road, they have specialist rope teams that would be able to look for any clues over there, they could assist with tent erecting moving, searching ect. It was Christmas Day and Christmas period, staff would be short so assistance would be called for from all departments.  Fire brigade donít just put fires out. 

The police just donít search the patch where the body was found, they would have done an extensive search of the whole area looking for clues, do you want them to do a running commentary just for you, so you understand every decision they make when they find a dead body or erect a tent and move it and then erect another tent.
It would be great answering your questions all day,  ďOh look I think Joanna changed her shoes in a photo I seen when she was socialisingĒ   So bloody what!  Itís none of your Buisness.

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