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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: What if the Smith family had come forward on the 4th of May?
« Reply #105 on: August 08, 2019, 03:53:17 PM »
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: What if the Smith family had come forward on the 4th of May?
« Reply #106 on: August 08, 2019, 03:56:15 PM »
Quote from: jassi on August 08, 2019, 03:48:31 PM
Quite simple. Read the highlight part of the post then answer my question. How would she be being carried if not in his arms ?

"She would not have been still in his arms".  Still as opposed to wriggling around if she was uncomfortable due to feeling cold.
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Offline jassi

Re: What if the Smith family had come forward on the 4th of May?
« Reply #107 on: August 08, 2019, 04:00:14 PM »
Quote from: Holly Goodhead on August 08, 2019, 03:56:15 PM
"She would not have been still in his arms".  Still as opposed to wriggling around if she was uncomfortable due to feeling cold.

Right, an alternative meaning of still.
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: What if the Smith family had come forward on the 4th of May?
« Reply #108 on: August 08, 2019, 04:07:08 PM »
Quote from: jassi on August 08, 2019, 04:00:14 PM
Right, an alternative meaning of still.

Yes.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What if the Smith family had come forward on the 4th of May?
« Reply #109 on: August 08, 2019, 08:20:28 PM »
I'm glad you two have sorted that out.
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Offline sadie

Re: What if the Smith family had come forward on the 4th of May?
« Reply #110 on: August 09, 2019, 09:59:29 PM »
Quote from: Eleanor on August 08, 2019, 11:42:48 AM
Yer, down through the back lanes, of which there are a few in that direction.

There a few back lanes for the very first part of the journey, Ellie, but none for most of the journey.

There is no shorter route for the man than the direct route from the OC crech on Rua Direita to the junction on Rua 25 Abril where he came across Aoife.   Why carry a youngster further than he had to and on such a cool blustery night ?


The route I suggest he might have taken, if coming from the OC child minding service, would be directly down R. Direita and straight into R. 25 Abril.  Going west all the time.


Going downhill virtually all the time.
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Offline sadie

Re: What if the Smith family had come forward on the 4th of May?
« Reply #111 on: August 09, 2019, 10:16:45 PM »
Quote from: Holly Goodhead on August 08, 2019, 03:53:17 PM
I thought the Smith sighting was very close to the beach but it appears 'Smithman' was heading towards an area of bars, restaurants, accommodation, ATM's and other amenities.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Luz+Ocean+Drive/@37.0857452,-8.7314915,19z/data=!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0xd1b313956d47471:0x661a90381035a97!2sR.+da+Escola+Prim%C3%A1ria,+Luz,+Portugal!3b1!8m2!3d37.087442!4d-8.7325242!3m4!1s0xd1b313ec4bff307:0x785315c8384bc46d!8m2!3d37.0857728!4d-8.73065

He wsa heading towards the little beach hidden away near the Bull Tavern and the Fontazela, or towards the town centre and church.

He was less than 200 metres away from the beach at the final Smith sighting by Aoife


Btw, there are steps down to the beach, sort of hidden away, behind the Bull.   When I first visited, I think that was in "2010, the steps were in a dangerous condition, but maybe they were safe in 2007 ?
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: What if the Smith family had come forward on the 4th of May?
« Reply #112 on: August 09, 2019, 11:19:02 PM »
Quote from: sadie on August 09, 2019, 09:59:29 PM
There a few back lanes for the very first part of the journey, Ellie, but none for most of the journey.

There is no shorter route for the man than the direct route from the OC crech on Rua Direita to the junction on Rua 25 Abril where he came across Aoife.   Why carry a youngster further than he had to and on such a cool blustery night ?


The route I suggest he might have taken, if coming from the OC child minding service, would be directly down R. Direita and straight into R. 25 Abril.  Going west all the time.


Going downhill virtually all the time.

That would mean all 3 Smith statements are cobblers, because that's not what they witnessed.

Rua 25 de Abril is uphill on your suggested route.
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