Jeremy Bamber and Heroin

[Nicholas]

That’s a DISGUSTING slur!

Holly does nothing but denigrate Sheila, constantly. Her hypocritical bio that says “justice for Sheila and Jeremy”  highlights how disingenuous she is

Sheila was NOT a hard drug user — she very occasionally took Cocaine, but the “hardest’ drugs she used was marijuana. The PM proved she’d last smoked any about five days previously.

To suggest she was a heroin addict is disgusting!

And to suggest she massaged “older men” when she did CLEANING jobs for extra money, and was supported by both Colin, her parents and the state when she was unwell and couldn’t work, is absolutely outrageous!

Holly seems to love besmirching Sheila, which I find weird. Maybe she’s jealous if the beauty Sheila had...but whatever her problem with Sheila is she doesn’t half show she has one!

Making libellous comments can be very damaging for the person doing it...in more ways than one.

Indirectly and directly

Bamber referred to SC as narcissistical (sic)

[Nicholas]

Form a 1993 interview with Bamber

What can you tell me about Sheila? What sort of person was she ?

“In her early life, a normal sister. Interested in English and Art, a sensitive person. A fairly highly-strung person but, up until the age of 17/18, I got on well with her. We had much in common. Then she went up to London and got into the modelling and that changed her quite considerably. It made her too narcissistical (sic).

[Nicholas]

That’s a DISGUSTING slur!

Holly does nothing but denigrate Sheila, constantly. Her hypocritical bio that says “justice for Sheila and Jeremy”  highlights how disingenuous she is

Sheila was NOT a hard drug user — she very occasionally took Cocaine, but the “hardest’ drugs she used was marijuana. The PM proved she’d last smoked any about five days previously.

To suggest she was a heroin addict is disgusting!

And to suggest she massaged “older men” when she did CLEANING jobs for extra money, and was supported by both Colin, her parents and the state when she was unwell and couldn’t work, is absolutely outrageous!

Holly seems to love besmirching Sheila, which I find weird. Maybe she’s jealous if the beauty Sheila had...but whatever her problem with Sheila is she doesn’t half show she has one!

Making libellous comments can be very damaging for the person doing it...in more ways than one.

It’s nonsensical

[Nicholas]

That’s a DISGUSTING slur!

Holly does nothing but denigrate Sheila, constantly. Her hypocritical bio that says “justice for Sheila and Jeremy”  highlights how disingenuous she is

Sheila was NOT a hard drug user — she very occasionally took Cocaine, but the “hardest’ drugs she used was marijuana. The PM proved she’d last smoked any about five days previously.

To suggest she was a heroin addict is disgusting!

And to suggest she massaged “older men” when she did CLEANING jobs for extra money, and was supported by both Colin, her parents and the state when she was unwell and couldn’t work, is absolutely outrageous!

Holly seems to love besmirching Sheila, which I find weird. Maybe she’s jealous if the beauty Sheila had...but whatever her problem with Sheila is she doesn’t half show she has one!

Making libellous comments can be very damaging for the person doing it...in more ways than one.

Holly didn’t appear to think so 

[Nicholas]

Did police speak to Kieron Saunders re his source?

Is there a witness statement from Kieron Saunders ?

[Nicholas]

“Wednesday 4 September 1985 – Jeremy took Julie to a café close to Sheila’s apartment shortly before 4pm and gave her a cheque for £400 to pay for a holiday with Liz Rimmington[6]. He then discussed their relationship, and after his arrest Julie banked this cheque along with another from Jeremy. On returning to Sheila’s apartment, Jeremy received a telephone call from another girl he’d been seeing called Virginia Greaves. In fury, Julie ran into the bedroom, picked up a wooden Chinese trick box that belonged to Jeremy and threw it into a mirror, smashing it into pieces. Brett Collins also witnessed this from the next room in the apartment.

https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/julie-mugford-volunteer-witness

Trudi Benjamin and the rest of the campaign team need to speak to Bamber about who exactly he was on the phone with here - was it Anji or Virginia ?

Sheila's Flat - Maida Vale - Wed 4 Sept 1985

According to Julie Mugford, she telephoned Bamber at Sheila's flat in Maida Vale on Tuesday 3 September 1985.  She called round the following day. She said it appeared that he was staying at the flat with a friend, Richard Deckers.  She arrived at the flat at 2.50pm and sat waiting in the doorway. He arrived with Brett at about 3.40pm, he got out of the car before Brett and came over and gave her a hug. She asked to see him alone and we walked to a cafe across the road.

In the cafe she asked about their relationship.  Bamber said he had been sold out and was it a matter of continuing the relation ship or her going to the police. Bamber said that he didn't want to continue the relationship and wanted his freedom. Brett arrived at the cafe and discussed some business with Jeremy.  Julie states that they she then suggested moving some of her belongings to her new address before all three again left for Sheila's flat.

At the flat Brett attended to a man who had just arrived. The phone rang and Jeremy answered it.  Julie says that he seemed speak in an overly friendly manner to the caller so she asked him who it was and he replied Virginia.  Virginia was previously acquainted with both Jeremy and Richard Decker.  Julie states that she terminated the call before the phone rang again, it was Virginia. Julie was angry with Jeremy as he had asked out another woman.  She states that she walked out of the room into a bedroom where she picked up a Chinese box and threw it against a mirror, smashing it.  With that Jeremy came into the room with the phone before ending the call.

Jeremy asked why she had did it and she told him that it was cruel to ask out another woman while she was there, Bamber became really cross and Julie had slapped his face.  Julie recalls that he grabbed her right arm and pushed it up her back and shoved her onto the bed and made to strike her.  Julies states that she goaded him daring him to hit her.  She said she told him that she would go straight to Essex Police and they would listen to her. Bamber said that the case was so watertight that they would never listen to her.

Bamber let go of her and lay on the bed very quiet. Julie said she asked him to speak to her and why he was so quiet. She said he looked worried and she felt sorry for him. They started talking again normally and she told him that he could trust her and that she wouldn't say anything. Jeremy eventually gave her a lift home to her flat.


Brett Collins was a friend whom Bamber had met while in New Zealand.


Julie Mugford witness statement page 27
Julie Mugford witness statement page 28
Julie Mugford witness statement page 29
Julie Mugford witness statement page 30
Julie Mugford witness statement page 31
Julie Mugford witness statement page 32

[Nicholas]

Trudi Benjamin and the rest of the campaign team need to speak to Bamber about who exactly he was on the phone with here - was it Anji or Virginia ?

Sheila's Flat - Maida Vale - Wed 4 Sept 1985

In the cafe she asked about their relationship.  Bamber said he had been sold out
Julie Mugford witness statement page 28

According to JM’s WS Bamber didn’t say, ‘he had been sold out’ - he said re his relationship with JM ‘it had already been sold out’

JM stated,

“In the cafe we started talking and I asked him what was going on in respect of our relationship. He said it had already been sold out.
I told him he was selfish and that I couldn’t let him get away with hurting people anymore. He said, ‘you mean I either confess; going to the police or I carry on the relationship with you’
He thought I was giving him an alternative.
We discussed our relationship further and basically he could have freedom and do what he wanted to do 

[Nicholas]

According to JM’s WS Bamber didn’t say, ‘he had been sold out’ - he said re his relationship with JM ‘it had already been sold out’

JM stated,

“In the cafe we started talking and I asked him what was going on in respect of our relationship. He said it had already been sold out.
I told him he was selfish and that I couldn’t let him get away with hurting people anymore. He said, ‘you mean I either confess; going to the police or I carry on the relationship with you’
He thought I was giving him an alternative.
We discussed our relationship further and basically he could have freedom and do what he wanted to do 

Because Bamber knew he was going to jail

[Nicholas]

Is there a witness statement from Kieron Saunders ?

Suspect the police interviewed him like they did Michael Fielder

[Nicholas]

“Wednesday 4 September 1985 – Jeremy took Julie to a café close to Sheila’s apartment shortly before 4pm and gave her a cheque for £400 to pay for a holiday with Liz Rimmington[6]. He then discussed their relationship, and after his arrest Julie banked this cheque along with another from Jeremy. On returning to Sheila’s apartment, Jeremy received a telephone call from another girl he’d been seeing called Virginia Greaves. In fury, Julie ran into the bedroom, picked up a wooden Chinese trick box that belonged to Jeremy and threw it into a mirror, smashing it into pieces. Brett Collins also witnessed this from the next room in the apartment.
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https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/julie-mugford-volunteer-witness

JM wasn’t furious she actually stated she was annoyed  (top of page 29 of her WS)

“I was annoyed with him about the call as he had told me he had asked out another women. The phone then rang again and it was Virginia. I walked out of the room and into the bedroom as I was so angry. I picked a Chinese box of Jeremy and threw it against a mirror which smashed. When that broke he came into the room with the phone, still on it to Virginia and then put it down.
He asked me why I did it and I said it was a cruel thing to do to ask out another women whilst I was there
He became very cross and I slapped his face. 
He then got hold of my right arm and twisted it up my back, pushed me onto the bed and then he raised his arm as if to hit me

[Nicholas]

JM stated,

“In the cafe we started talking and I asked him what was going on in respect of our relationship. He said it had already been sold out.
I told him he was selfish and that I couldn’t let him get away with hurting people anymore. He said, ‘you mean I either confess; going to the police or I carry on the relationship with you’
He thought I was giving him an alternative.
We discussed our relationship further and basically he could have freedom and do what he wanted to do 

Bamber viewed JM as a means to an end - she was no longer useful to him hence why he told her their relationship ‘had already been sold out’

And his smear campaign against JM had increased weeks before

‘Covert predators like these will spread falsehoods to slander your reputation or smear your credibility to others. This is a form of gaslighting intended to manage your image in the public eye to ensure that no one would believe you were being abused. The abuser works overtime to paint you as the abuser in order to escape accountability for his or her actions.

At the root of all smear campaigns is character assassination. Malignant narcissists preemptively strike with personal attacks in an attempt to unsettle you and smear your good name because they are pathologically envious or threatened.

Smear campaigns can be launched by telling blatant lies about the victim, spreading rumors or “suggestions” which call into doubt the sanity of the victim with an air of faux concern, or even concocting false evidence to isolate the victim from outside support.

https://blogs.psychcentral.com/recovering-narcissist/2019/01/11-manipulation-and-sabotage-tactics-of-narcissists-sociopaths-psychopaths/

[Nicholas]

JM stated,

“In the cafe we started talking and I asked him what was going on in respect of our relationship. He said it had already been sold out.
I told him he was selfish and that I couldn’t let him get away with hurting people anymore. He said, ‘you mean I either confess; going to the police or I carry on the relationship with you’
He thought I was giving him an alternative.
We discussed our relationship further and basically he could have freedom and do what he wanted to do 

Bamber’s smear campaign of JM has had his supporters wrongly believe JM gave him an alternative

It’s clear from her witness statement she never did

[Nicholas]

That sounds like Jeremy had to wipe the rifle after the fight because his own fingerprints would have overlapped Nevill’s, proving he was the killer. Forensics would see by all the fingerprint patterns that Jeremy and Nevill struggled over the rifle. That’s why he had to wipe it clean of prints.

I can’t remember how many of Nevill’s fingerprints were found on the gun, but you’d imagine there’d be hundreds considering it belonged to him, and from memory, I think they only found a couple? And Sheila certainly wouldn’t have wiped them off.

Maybe JB was worried that he had no choice but to wipe the gun clean, and that should have alerted police as to why so few of Nevill’s fingerprints were on it.

Of course, after wiping it clean and having put his glove back on, he pressed Sheila’s finger onto it — just twice, I think? Which is also ridiculous. Sheila’s prints would’ve been all over it!

Might be an idea to start a new thread re the fingerprints on the gun

[John]

Might be an idea to start a new thread re the fingerprints on the gun

Added posts to existing historical thread.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9946.0

[Robittybob1]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/119648317/so-my-best-friend-turned-out-to-be-a-mass-murderer

They had drug dealing in NZ as well.