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Offline Caroline


The trick was not to take them home, Caroline 8(0(*

To be fair, I wouldn't have been interested in a much older divorcee - although I ended up with one  @)(++(* @)(++(*

Offline APRIL

To be fair, I wouldn't have been interested in a much older divorcee - although I ended up with one  @)(++(* @)(++(*


Ya never know what life has in store for you 8(0(* @)(++(*

Offline G-Unit

Do you know what ... if my young son had been knocking about with an older woman with children, I would have been as dismayed as you accuse June and Nevill of being.  I would have used any "coercive control" I had to intervene.

I think however you have highlighted causes for resentment Bamber might have nurtured for his parents regarding their power and his 'inheritance'; as well as their 'interference' in his dealings with women young and old and their obvious disapproval ... and they really didn't know the half of what he was getting up to, did they.

All parents have their own methods, but if threats are made they have to be prepared to carry them out. According to CAL Susan Wallace said June punished her children by stopping their pocket money but 'as soon as they wanted something they got it anyway'.[p33 Kindle ed].
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All parents have their own methods, but if threats are made they have to be prepared to carry them out. According to CAL Susan Wallace said June punished her children by stopping their pocket money but 'as soon as they wanted something they got it anyway'.[p33 Kindle ed].

Wow! The tyrants!  @)(++(*

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

My mother would probably have provided me with a private education if she had believed in that sort of thing and if she had been able to afford to.

My mother might have opted for using private medicine for me had I needed it if she hadn't been so pig headed about the NHS.

If she had been able to she would certainly have bought a home for me in from what I can gather was a good area in London.  She loved London and being able to lodge with me for some of her jaunts would have been great for us both.

‘coercive control’  I don't know ... I only remember her doing everything in her power for me ... I rather get the impression that June Bamber did that for her daughter too.


I see where you’re coming from, Brietta, in respect of June. It is likely that because June herself was brought up in a monied family she saw it as normal to send her children to private school too; have private medicine when necessary; and buy them homes too.

On the other hand, it’s equally possible that June controlled them with her money, ensuring they’d do as she wanted later in life.

It’s difficult to know what June’s real reasons were...

I was sent to private school, but my parents didn’t send me as a form of control; they just believed you had a better education — so June could have thought that too.

I have private medical cover, but didn’t always. My parents used the NHS, but that was when it was properly run; didn’t have hugely long waiting lists; and was the envy of the world at one time. Sadly, the NHS is underfunded now, and that’s the only reason I have PMC. Yes, there’s other benefits too...choosing hospitals that are almost like hotels; jumping queues; lovely food (even wine if you’re allowed); excellent doctors and first class treatment — but many of those doctors who work in, say, Edward V11 hospital; Princess Grace etc...also work a couple of days in the NHS. So you’re really paying for speed and comfortable surroundings.

I suspect June sent Sheila privately (like she did herself when she had her breakdowns), to try and keep it quiet.

I did read that Jeremy was worried when June started giving the church money...
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

But JB Campaign ltd appear to be knowingly promoting lies and falsehoods and defaming many victims of Bamber’s in the process ?

And they’ve clearly singled out and targeted JM in particular

Trudi Benjamin has a law degree and she has access to other legally minded individuals

Her and her husband Pat Benjamin are directors of JB Campaign ltd with Thomas Walker recently having been added as another director https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09883616/officers

“In December 2015 I was very pleased to announce the launch of The JB Campaign Limited, which is a ‘Not For Profit’ Private Limited Company. Having thought long and hard about the campaign to keep Jeremy’s case in the public domain and the issues that need resolving to get traction on an Appeal, the only conclusion was that we needed to be able to raise money. Supporters often ask how they can make donations but in order to do this effectively and legitimately the decision was made by the campaign team to set up The Jeremy Bamber Campaign as a legal entity. Our aim is to raise funds towards any legal or forensic costs not currently covered Pro Bono. There is an opportunity for people to give cash using a donate button on the website, we will be offering opportunities for appropriate advertising, along with a range of merchandise. Other exciting projects are in the planning process and will be announced in due course.

I am very proud, alongside my husband Pat Benjamin, to be a Director of the organisation, and we are delighted to be working with the Campaign Management Team to maintain a high standard of business and accounting practices. In accordance, with requirements by Companies House, all monies will be accounted for and annual accounts will be filed. The Directors and Management Team give their time and expertise for free.
The decision to generate revenue in this way was taken partly because of the denigration of legal aid and the funding crisis for prisoners such as Jeremy but also because of the outrage we feel at the continued wrongful conviction and 31-year loss of liberty of an innocent man. Our hope is that campaigners and supporters, who feel as we do, will give generously to help Jeremy gain the freedom he so richly deserves.
Please look at the “Management Team” to find out more about who we are and the 'Operations' page to find out how we work.
Thank you.
Trudi Benjamin
Managing Director/Spokesperson


https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/jb-campaign-ltd-and-directors

Wonder if JB Campaign ltd have bothered to ever seek legal advise of their own ?


Trudie Benjamin is being crafty by inferring the company’s accounts are open for anyone to see, but they’re not: it’s a PRIVATE Limited Company. What are they hiding and why?


She writes:


“I am very proud, alongside my husband Pat Benjamin, to be a Director of the organisation, and we are delighted to be working with the Campaign Management Team to maintain a high standard of business and accounting practices. In accordance, with requirements by Companies House, all monies will be accounted for and annual accounts will be filed. The Directors and Management Team give their time and expertise for free”


She’s also implying having Directors must mean they have expertise: that’s nonsense. Anyone can be a director of a company. In fact, anyone can start a company up. Many con-artists set them up to appear honest...

I myself was a director of a small company, which I resigned from as I couldn’t stand one of the directors who thought he was running a multi-national global company and kept arranging “board meetings” to discuss the most petty, ridiculous things that could have been dealt with with one two-minute call. I’m still a shareholder, so I leave the petty squabbles to them while he struts around like a deluded puffed-up peacock. There’s always one....🙄

Back to Trudie, didn’t she take her law degree quite recently? I got the impression she did it solely for Jeremy. There’s a difference between having a law degree and being a qualified solicitor, and as she isn’t one, how can she have any expertise? She isn’t a member of the Law Society, so what has she gained by getting this degree? And what degree is it, actually?  Besides having no experience, she’s completely lacking in nous and razor sharp thinking. When she was defending JB in an interview (it’s on Youtube) she was humiliated and couldn’t give one sensible answer to the man (forgotten his name) who was clearly irritated by her and seemed to find her “barking”.

She sounded as incompetent and out of her depth as she did when she read JB’s insane letter by the graveside. She certainly doesn’t come across as confident, passionate or legally trained — and she isn’t even well-spoken. She’s hesitant in her speech, seems confused, and like it or not, looks do matter. They create an impression. She doesn’t dress well; isn’t smart looking; and instils no confidence whatsoever. All the videos I’ve seen of hers, where she starts them off with that weird song with the words “SHUT UP” is so bizarre ...why does she do that, I wonder? 🤯 She always looks and sounds frumpy, talks like she is besotted with JB, and despite looking like a tired frump she has very long red fingernails which look so wrong on her. I’ve even wondered if she’s got a weird fixation with Sheila and copies her fingernails. That sounds mad, but because she’s clearly “not right” who knows what goes on in her head?

What does her husband do, I wonder? He’s obviously not a solicitor otherwise she’d have said. He must be odd too...what sort of husband would be happy with their wife obsessing over a mass murderer? Driving down to his old stomping ground? Visiting the pubs he used to go to? He’s either a total drip, or maybe he has another life of his own and let’s her get on with her obsession? Or maybe he creams off some of the donations?

They should be investigated.
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Offline Eleanor


I see where you’re coming from, Brietta, in respect of June. It is likely that because June herself was brought up in a monied family she saw it as normal to send her children to private school to; have private medicine when necessary; and buy them homes too.

On the other hand, it’s equally possible that June controlled them with her money, ensuring they’d do as she wanted later in life.

It’s difficult to know what June’s real reasons were...

I was sent to private school, but my parents didn’t send me as a form of control; they just believed you had a better education — so June could have thought that too.

I have private medical cover, but didn’t always. My parents used the NHS, but that was when it was properly run; didn’t have hugely long waiting lists; and was the envy of the world at one time. Sadly, the NHS is underfunded now, and that’s the only reason I have PMC. Yes, there’s other benefits too...choosing hospitals that are almost like hotels; jumping queues; lovely food (even wine if you’re allowed); excellent doctors and first class treatment — but many of those doctors who work in, say, Edward V11 hospital; Princess Grace etc...also work a couple of days in the NHS. So you’re really paying for speed and comfortable surroundings.

I suspect June sent Sheila privately (like she did herself when she had her breakdowns), to try and keep it quiet.

I did read that Jeremy was worried when June started giving the church money...

I beggared myself to privately educate my children.  That's it really.  I sometimes wonder why.

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Trudie Benjamin is being crafty by inferring the company’s accounts are open for anyone to see, but they’re not: it’s a PRIVATE Limited Company. What are they hiding and why?


She writes:


“I am very proud, alongside my husband Pat Benjamin, to be a Director of the organisation, and we are delighted to be working with the Campaign Management Team to maintain a high standard of business and accounting practices. In accordance, with requirements by Companies House, all monies will be accounted for and annual accounts will be filed. The Directors and Management Team give their time and expertise for free”


She’s also implying having Directors must mean they have expertise: that’s nonsense. Anyone can be a director of a company. In fact, anyone can start a company up. Many con-artists set them up to appear honest...

I myself was a director of a small company, which I resigned from as I couldn’t stand one of the directors who thought he was running a multi-national global company and kept arranging “board meetings” to discuss the most petty, ridiculous things that could have been dealt with with one two-minute call. I’m still a shareholder, so I leave the petty squabbles to them while he struts around like a deluded puffed-up peacock. There’s always one....🙄

Back to Trudie, didn’t she take her law degree quite recently? I got the impression she did it solely for Jeremy. There’s a difference between having a law degree and being a qualified solicitor, and as she isn’t one, how can she have any expertise? She isn’t a member of the Law Society, so what has she gained by getting this degree? And what degree is it, actually?  Besides having no experience, she’s completely lacking in nous and razor sharp thinking. When she was defending JB in an interview (it’s on Youtube) she was humiliated and couldn’t give one sensible answer to the man (forgotten his name) who was clearly irritated by her and seemed to find her “barking”.

She sounded as incompetent and out of her depth as she did when she read JB’s insane letter by the graveside. She certainly doesn’t come across as confident, passionate or legally trained — and she isn’t even well-spoken. She’s hesitant in her speech, seems confused, and like it or not, looks do matter. They create an impression. She doesn’t dress well; isn’t smart looking; and instils no confidence whatsoever. All the videos I’ve seen of hers, where she starts them off with that weird song with the words “SHUT UP” is so bizarre ...why does she do that, I wonder? 🤯 She always looks and sounds frumpy, talks like she is besotted with JB, and despite looking like a tired frump she has very long red fingernails which look so wrong on her. I’ve even wondered if she’s got a weird fixation with Sheila and copies her fingernails. That sounds mad, but because she’s clearly “not right” who knows what goes on in her head?

What does her husband do, I wonder? He’s obviously not a solicitor otherwise she’d have said. He must be odd too...what sort of husband would be happy with their wife obsessing over a mass murderer? Driving down to his old stomping ground? Visiting the pubs he used to go to? He’s either a total drip, or maybe he has another life of his own and let’s her get on with her obsession? Or maybe he creams off some of the donations?

They should be investigated.

Follow that link to Companies House , and you can look  at whatever you like. According to my husband (ex-lawyer) one can see the accounts of limited companies, but not unlimited ones. Mind you, he's been retired over 10 years, so he could be wrong!!

Offline G-Unit

Follow that link to Companies House , and you can look  at whatever you like. According to my husband (ex-lawyer) one can see the accounts of limited companies, but not unlimited ones. Mind you, he's been retired over 10 years, so he could be wrong!!

Yes, the accounts are there and the company seems to be complying with the law. As @ 31/11/2018 there were two directors and the company had £4539 in funds. Another director was appointed in March 2020.

Your husband is correct; the accounts of Private Limited Companies can be seen, but not those of Private Unlimited Companies.
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Yes, the accounts are there and the company seems to be complying with the law. As @ 31/11/2018 there were two directors and the company had £4539 in funds. Another director was appointed in March 2020.

Your husband is correct; the accounts of Private Limited Companies can be seen, but not those of Private Unlimited Companies.

Ah, I got it wrong. I mixed up private limited companies with unlimited ones...thank you for correcting me.

I haven’t looked at their company records, but they have to be filed every year: why are there no accounts for 2019?

They get struck off if they don’t meet deadlines.
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Offline G-Unit

Ah, I got it wrong. I mixed up private limited companies with unlimited ones...thank you for correcting me.

I haven’t looked at their company records, but they have to be filed every year: why are there no accounts for 2019?

They get struck off if they don’t meet deadlines.

Accounts are produced after the end of the financial year. This companie's financial year ends on 31st November. Private limited companies have nine months to make up and file their accounts after their year-end. Their 2019 accounts, therefore, need to be filed by 31st August 2020.
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Accounts are produced after the end of the financial year. This companie's financial year ends on 31st November. Private limited companies have nine months to make up and file their accounts after their year-end. Their 2019 accounts, therefore, need to be filed by 31st August 2020.

That’s interesting...so it will show how much they have in their kitty in just a few months 😌

Must say, they only have a pittance considering all the begging they do for people to donate...

That doesn’t bode well, does it?😐
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Offline Nicholas

what we get is a portrait of coercive control [/i]

Is Sarah’s story and her allegations of drugging and possible sexual assault another example of coercive control ?

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11533.msg592462#msg592462

Bamber referred to her as ‘neurotic’
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Is Sarah’s story and her allegations of drugging and possible sexual assault another example of coercive control ?

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11533.msg592462#msg592462

Bamber referred to her as ‘neurotic’


I believe it’s only men who are coercive/psychopathic who use the word “neurotic” to describe the woman they’re controlling.

It’s also a word few people who’ve not been involved in psychiatric circles uses...especially for someone who’s only 24 and is a farmer/cocktail barmanin a pizza parlour 
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