Lies, lies and more dam llies...

[sadie]

Thank you registrar

I hope thet we are all rewarded with good news






But my faith isn't blind.  No-one has examined both ways more than me.  Just cannot see any way that the Mum and Dad could have been involved

Convince me.

[Benice]

So all the day accounted for and exhuasted, people clamouring to speak to them.  .  How could they search?

They jogged for miles days later - unemcumbered by hordes of press

Do you dispute this?

How would you know that - without seeing pictures of them taken by PRESS photographers!   I believe arrangements were made to give the McCanns some privacy - in exchange for arranged 'briefings'  .  Although because the secrecy laws -  apart from appealing for Madeleine's safe return there was nothing they could say to the Press.

I don't know why you have a problem with jogging.   After my neighbour took his 19 yr old daughter a cup of tea up in bed - and found her dead, (an undiagnosed heart problem) he took to jogging early every morning.   He would run for miles.      His wife who was previously a very bubbly sociable person became a virtual recluse for months.   Both dealt with their grief in their own way.    There are no do's and don'ts. 



 

There are no do's and dont's.  I can verify that, having lost my nine year old to a brain tumour.  You just do your best.


What I did have all along was tremendous support from everyone.  No-one carped about any imaginary ways that I/we did things wrong ... and we made some mistakes.  Everyone does in a new diabolical happening such as losing a child.


I repeat 

EVERY ONE GAVE US THEIR LOVE and SUPPORT.  They were wonderful.



So unlike the cruelty shown over the years to The Mccanns

I'm so sorry to hear that  Sadie - that must have been such a painful time for you and your family.  Having been bereaved myself I know how much I appreciated the love and support you talk of.    It meant everything.   

Looking back -  I can see that I did some pretty weird things at times - grief does do strange things to people.  But no-one ever criticised me or tried to stop me getting through it in my own way and at my own pace.

To criticise and sneer at the McCanns for dealing with THEIR pain in the way that was best for THEM - is both ignorant and cruel. imo.

       
 

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[sadie]

Thank you Benice.

I agree with you.  Criticizing and sneering at the Mccanns is both ignorant and cruel and it shows a complete lack of empathy.

I can think of few things more despicable.

[registrar]

Thank you Benice.

I agree with you.  Criticizing and sneering at the Mccanns is both ignorant and cruel and it shows a complete lack of empathy.

I can think of few things more despicable.

So criticism of the McCanns and their behaviour is out of bounds?

Is that what you are telling us Sadie?

[debunker]

Sadie posted:

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Oh Gerry searched alright.  How much, I dont know.  I well remember photos of him with a man (was it his brother in Law) searching the cracks in the cliffs, and also between the boulders below on the beach near Rocha Negro. 

I bet that Kate was told not to search, distressed, children to look after, the possibility of seeing the decomposing body of her first born.  Kates health has been very frail.

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not that frail

As a retired Mental Health professional I have known many very fit people who had frail health!

[debunker]

And do remind us why hordes of media people had descended on Luz?

Yep right because of Team McCann and their PR juggernaut activities.

The parents can't have it both ways - they can't invite the worldwide media - and then dictate to them what to report.

A certain Diana Spencer learnt this to her cost.

You find your child missing in a foreign country and are convinced she's been abducted.

You contact the police.

Then what?

You DON'T
- contact your consulate for help?
- try to contact anyone who may be able to help?
- try to get her details publicised as fast and as widely as possible?

What would you have done differently once you'd discovered your child missing?

Whilst all the above action points are of value,

I would NOT have jetted off to the Vatican, Germany and Morocco for pointless photo ops.

I would NOT have created a 'Team McCann' thus rendering the search impersonable and corporate

I would NOT have gone jogging 

I CERTAINLY would have not returned my remaining children to the OC's creche the day after the disappearance of my first born.

I CERTAINLY would have not written a book explaining my physical relationship with my partner and mentioning my missing child's genitalia in graphic detail (a book intended for the twins - remember?)

All those things I would NOT have done 

Does that answer your question?

All that maybe true. People are different. You are different to the McCanns. Big News Story? NO!

[sadie]

Diabolically insensitive and downright cruel to destroy a couple of people who have lost their child.


No finger of suspicion on them by the PT authorities, nor the British ones.  Time to leave them alone.  Tha accusations that have happened should never have happened. 


Blaming people with no real knowledge of them ... or the exact circumstances. 


Guilty ... until proven innocent


Fascism ... in the raw.

[Chinagirl]

I thoroughly concur with both above posts by Debunker and Sadie.

Faceless, anonymous people on the internet have no right to pass judgement on the McCanns, particularly as there is no evidence of any wrongdoing on their part.

[Puffin]

I thoroughly concur with both above posts by Debunker and Sadie.

Faceless, anonymous people on the internet have no right to pass judgement on the McCanns, particularly as there is no evidence of any wrongdoing on their part.

Me too.  It's a new and very nasty form of bullying.  When, years ago, tormenting a person verbally and even beating up on them was done in the open, the victim could fight back.  But now there is no way most of the time that the victim can respond, which is why we have seen teenagers kill themselves.  I see there are moves ahead to limit the radical preachers from spouting hate on TV but that doesn't stop hatred being spewed forth on the internet.   People want free speech, and that is to be applauded, but the systematic demonising of people by those who do not know them, never met them but pick up on the more salacious and cruel posts of others should never be the norm.  A  shame, because it devalues the human race.  By all means let's have polite, constructive debate, argument etc, but descending into bad language, threats etc cannot and should not be tolerated.

[Mrs. B]

I thoroughly concur with both above posts by Debunker and Sadie.

Faceless, anonymous people on the internet have no right to pass judgement on the McCanns, particularly as there is no evidence of any wrongdoing on their part.

Me too.  It's a new and very nasty form of bullying.  When, years ago, tormenting a person verbally and even beating up on them was done in the open, the victim could fight back.  But now there is no way most of the time that the victim can respond, which is why we have seen teenagers kill themselves.  I see there are moves ahead to limit the radical preachers from spouting hate on TV but that doesn't stop hatred being spewed forth on the internet.   People want free speech, and that is to be applauded, but the systematic demonising of people by those who do not know them, never met them but pick up on the more salacious and cruel posts of others should never be the norm.  A  shame, because it devalues the human race.  By all means let's have polite, constructive debate, argument etc, but descending into bad language, threats etc cannot and should not be tolerated.

Agree.  And there is plenty of evidence of wrong doing on the part of the faceless, anonymous McCann "skeptics" online. Some of which could easily be classed as downright harassment.  I sometimes wonder why the McCanns didn't take that route with Bennett & his gang, instead of faffing around with court agreements etc. That's one thing I certainly would have done differently from them.