The laundrymen sightings on 2nd and 3rd May at Block G.

[pegasus]

Thank you again, Pegasus

Someone with journo credentials and a small amount of spare £ could get a better picture literally.

[misty]

Back to laundrymen.
Here's a really good photo, taken from Heriberto's blog, showing what a great temporary hiding place the stairwell in block 5 would have been.

[pegasus]

Back to laundrymen.
Here's a really good photo, taken from Heriberto's blog, showing what a great temporary hiding place the stairwell in block 5 would have been.

A place to hide something is the low alcove on the left actually under the concrete stair treads.

But the 2 stairwellman sightings were at about 7.30-8.00 pm on the 2nd, and at about 6.00pm on the 3rd.
But even if hypothetically someone did hide something in that alcove at either of those two times, it seems that could not be relevant, as the missing child was seen alive and well after both those stairwellman sightings.

[pegasus]

Another photo of the stairwell


There is a light blue plastic or cloth bag on the floor.
Possibly this bag contains dirty sheets or towels and has been left there by the cleaner and is awaiting collection by a driver? 

[misty]

I'm still not sure where you're going with all this. Do you think Madeleine's body was in one of the laundry bags?
All probably discussed elsewhere, but the thing I hadn't noticed before was that the only clothes Eddie marked were from the selection taken away separately by the PJ on 2/8/2007
 Processos Vol VIII Pages 2110
Examination of clothes collected from the Vista Mar Villa, 02 August 2007

POLICIA JUDICIARIA
Inspector: Joao Carlos
Date: 03/08/07
Place: DIC Portimao

Designated Officers: Paulo Pancadas and Nuno Nunes, PJ Inspectors

DIRECT EXAMINATION
Presented with a box containing articles and other clothing with the inscriptions ?DIC DE PORTIMAO? * NUIPC 20107.0 GALS * Place: Rua das Flores, no.27 ? Vivenda Vista-Do-Mar ?Urbanizacao Luz-Praia da Luz-Lagos * Division: Lounge (handwritten) * 2 pillows (handwritten) * Date: 2/08/07.

1. One pair of woman's trousers, HOBBS, size 8, checked pattern (white and black).


2. One woman's top, white, H & M, European size 5.

3. A childrens T-Shirt, red, with aeroplane motifs, NEXT, for the age 2-3, length 98 cms.

4. Sleeveless woman's T-shirt, white NEXT, in UK size 10

5. Bath towel, Turkish cloth, white SAN PEDRO


6. Bath towel, Turkish cloth, blue, with marine motifs, FELPOTECE

7. Children's shorts, blue, with red string, NEXT, for age 2-3, length 98 cms

8. Childrens shorts, lycra, blue in colour, with pink, MATERNA, for 2-3 years, length 98 cm

9. Childrens trousers, dark blue with bright orange, MARKS & SPENCER, for one to one and' years, length 90 cms

10. Childrens shirt ' girl ' pink, DOLCE & GABBANA, with the image SUPERGIRL.

11. Boys shirt, short-sleeved, light blue, with small white markings, NEXT, for 2-3 years, length 98cms.

12. Ladies briefs, white, MARKS & SPENCER, UK size 10

13. Mens t-shirt, short-sleeved, mixed colours, with letters on the front, NEXT, size large.

14. Woman's sleeveless shirt, lilac, with floral designs on the front, KIRKWOOD ESSENTIALS.

15.Men's sport polo shirt, white with black trim, GLENMUIR 1891, Medium.

16. Mens sport shorts, white, NIKE, size XL

17. Woman's sport t-shirt, grey, with the word PASSION written on the front, AMELIA JANE, size 44.

18. Sport t-shirt for men, white, with some grey, MARKS & SPENCER, size large

19. Mens t-shirt, light blue, with the inscription O'NEILL, size large.

20. A bib with sleeves, Turkish cloth, white, with Turkish blue colouring, with a monkey on the front and the words ?here comes 'trouble'NN PJ FILES INDEX
21. Childrens shorts, khaki, with various pockets, GENUINE KIDS, size 2T

22. Childrens shorts, with vertical stripes in blue tones, DESIGNERS, for age 18-24 months


23. Two pillow-cases, yellow, with dolls and words.


24. A pillow with the respective cover, white, with the words 'Visto do Mar 927 Metavilla'

25. A pillow with its cover, white

26. Two bath towels of Turkish cloth, yellow.

All the articles were photographed and identified from numbers1 to 26, corresponding to the numbers above. The photos follow the report
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The rest of the items were delivered by personally by Gerry on 3/8/2007 as per post #79
Wonder what form the "direct examination" took before the items were presented to the dogs?

[Anna]

I'm still not sure where you're going with all this. Do you think Madeleine's body was in one of the laundry bags?
All probably discussed elsewhere, but the thing I hadn't noticed before was that the only clothes Eddie marked were from the selection taken away separately by the PJ on 2/8/2007
 Processos Vol VIII Pages 2110
Examination of clothes collected from the Vista Mar Villa, 02 August 2007

POLICIA JUDICIARIA
Inspector: Joao Carlos
Date: 03/08/07
Place: DIC Portimao

Designated Officers: Paulo Pancadas and Nuno Nunes, PJ Inspectors

DIRECT EXAMINATION
Presented with a box containing articles and other clothing with the inscriptions ?DIC DE PORTIMAO? * NUIPC 20107.0 GALS * Place: Rua das Flores, no.27 ? Vivenda Vista-Do-Mar ?Urbanizacao Luz-Praia da Luz-Lagos * Division: Lounge (handwritten) * 2 pillows (handwritten) * Date: 2/08/07.

1. One pair of woman's trousers, HOBBS, size 8, checked pattern (white and black).


2. One woman's top, white, H & M, European size 5.

3. A childrens T-Shirt, red, with aeroplane motifs, NEXT, for the age 2-3, length 98 cms.

4. Sleeveless woman's T-shirt, white NEXT, in UK size 10

5. Bath towel, Turkish cloth, white SAN PEDRO


6. Bath towel, Turkish cloth, blue, with marine motifs, FELPOTECE

7. Children's shorts, blue, with red string, NEXT, for age 2-3, length 98 cms

8. Childrens shorts, lycra, blue in colour, with pink, MATERNA, for 2-3 years, length 98 cm

9. Childrens trousers, dark blue with bright orange, MARKS & SPENCER, for one to one and' years, length 90 cms

10. Childrens shirt ' girl ' pink, DOLCE & GABBANA, with the image SUPERGIRL.

11. Boys shirt, short-sleeved, light blue, with small white markings, NEXT, for 2-3 years, length 98cms.

12. Ladies briefs, white, MARKS & SPENCER, UK size 10

13. Mens t-shirt, short-sleeved, mixed colours, with letters on the front, NEXT, size large.

14. Woman's sleeveless shirt, lilac, with floral designs on the front, KIRKWOOD ESSENTIALS.

15.Men's sport polo shirt, white with black trim, GLENMUIR 1891, Medium.

16. Mens sport shorts, white, NIKE, size XL

17. Woman's sport t-shirt, grey, with the word PASSION written on the front, AMELIA JANE, size 44.

18. Sport t-shirt for men, white, with some grey, MARKS & SPENCER, size large

19. Mens t-shirt, light blue, with the inscription O'NEILL, size large.

20. A bib with sleeves, Turkish cloth, white, with Turkish blue colouring, with a monkey on the front and the words ?here comes 'trouble'NN PJ FILES INDEX
21. Childrens shorts, khaki, with various pockets, GENUINE KIDS, size 2T

22. Childrens shorts, with vertical stripes in blue tones, DESIGNERS, for age 18-24 months


23. Two pillow-cases, yellow, with dolls and words.


24. A pillow with the respective cover, white, with the words 'Visto do Mar 927 Metavilla'

25. A pillow with its cover, white

26. Two bath towels of Turkish cloth, yellow.

All the articles were photographed and identified from numbers1 to 26, corresponding to the numbers above. The photos follow the report
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The rest of the items were delivered by personally by Gerry on 3/8/2007 as per post #79
Wonder what form the "direct examination" took before the items were presented to the dogs?

Of course, I do not think her body was in a case! I am simply exploring your theory of...........Dogs didn't alert to the case that was in the wardrobe that Eddie alerted too, which must have been X contaminated, if there was cadaver scent there.
  The clothing which was apparently alerted too, all came from one box.

[Anna]

I also believe that the white bin liner(which I believe it is) being carried along with the large suitcase on left of photo( which due to its reflective material appears white too) is the dirty laundry bag.

[pegasus]

Some clothes to be washed were delivered by MW employee to the OC laundry which is located near the Tapas Bar, and IMO this was shortly after those two large bags were carried away from the apartment. Consulting an employee statement we read "recebeu na lavandaria um saco de roupa" = "recieved at the laundry a bag of clothes". The word "um" is singular. So we have two large bags carried away from the apartment, one dark and one white, and IMO one of those two bags is then taken to the laundry.

@Misty
I think the word we see translated as "delivered" means delivered in the legal sense. In other words he signed a form acknowledging that the PJ were taking the clothing etc from the villa. It was not him personally delivering the items to Portimao.
Re the boxes, that villa has a large open plan area, and I think the items from that openplan area went into two boxes, one possibly labelled "lounge" and the other possibly labelled "common room", but I am not sure yet.
Back to laundry, I was just pointing out that various items including a fairly large amount of laundry were taken from the apartment on May 5th (this is in addition to any sheets or towels which may or may not have been removed on the 2nd or 3rd by the cleaner and vandrivers).

[pegasus]

I also believe that the white bin liner(which I believe it is) being carried along with the large suitcase on left of photo( which due to its reflective material appears white too) is the dirty laundry bag.

The family arrived on the 28th with exactly two large luggage items (source: EMA-FAO luggage documentation).
JIMO we see exactly the same two large luggage items being removed from the apartment in the photo on May 5th.
Two in, two out.
It is possibly one of these two bags which is then received at the laundry (see statements of laundry employees Cravinho and Arez)