Was Sheila at an increased risk of suicide?

[APRIL]

I don't disagree certainly.  The two children were defined to a large degree by their upbringing.  That said however, children of mixed parentage can be brought up in a household and end up at opposite ends of the right and wrong spectrum.  Much of how children turn out will be defined in their DNA.

I personally believe that most of the damage was done outside the family ie at boarding school.



Victims June Bamber and adopted daughter Sheila with Jeremy in happier times.

Heheheheeeee. MOST of us don't.........................however great the provocation


Ooops, sorry. Replied to the wrong post. Should have been the one under this.



 

I know lots of adopted people, some within my own family, and although some of them rebelled in their younger days, none of them were so evil as to commit murder.

I see no excuse for what Jeremy did in his adoption or upbringing.

[John]

JB looks the spitting image of my adopted brother in that photo.  Even wearing the same shirt.

The camera never lies or does it?  Interesting to note that JB has his arm around June and SC chose to pick up the dog and hold it with both hands?   &%+((£  Did SC want to incl the dog and excl June or am I getting a bit carried away?   &%+((£

The latter...  ...just a tad.   

[Holly Goodhead]

I don't disagree certainly.  The two children were defined to a large degree by their upbringing.  That said however, children of mixed parentage can be brought up in a household and end up at opposite ends of the right and wrong spectrum.  Much of how children turn out will be defined in their DNA.

I personally believe that most of the damage was done outside the family ie at boarding school.



Victims June Bamber and adopted daughter Sheila with Jeremy in happier times.

But we know that JB's full birth siblings are law abiding, successful citizens:

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=281.msg4830#msg4830

[John]

But we know that JB's full birth siblings are law abiding, successful citizens:

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=281.msg4830#msg4830

So what you are saying is that his resentment over the adoption combined with being sent away to boarding school had an adverse effect on him?

[Holly Goodhead]

So what you are saying is that his resentment over the adoption combined with being sent away to boarding school had an adverse effect on him?

SC and JB were adopted and "sent away" to boarding school.  What separates the pair is SC experiencing numerous changes in 'primary caregivers' and June's mental illness circa 1959.  All the research, studies and scientific evidence show that this is likely to have had an adverse effect on SC and given rise to an 'attachment disorder' with lifelong consequences. 

[John]

SC and JB were adopted and "sent away" to boarding school.  What separates the pair is SC experiencing numerous changes in 'primary caregivers' and June's mental illness circa 1959.  All the research, studies and scientific evidence show that this is likely to have had an adverse effect on SC and given rise to an 'attachment disorder' with lifelong consequences.

But it doesn't make her a markswoman overnight and a cold-blooded killer to boot?

[Holly Goodhead]

But it doesn't make her a markswoman overnight and a cold-blooded killer to boot?

The perp didn't need to be a markswoman/man as all shots were fired at close range as per Malcolm Fletcher the ballistics expert:

June: 5 shots - at least one foot away
         1 shot - less than one foot
         1 shot - unable to estimate

NB :   6 shots - a few inches
         2 shots - at least two feet away

Daniel : 4 shots - within one foot
            1 shot - over two feet away

Nicholas : 3 shots - close proximity

A feature of an 'attachment disorder' is a lack of empathy:

See 11.05 in - Prof Alan Sroufe - University of Minnesota:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyVHIZVP8Mk

"It's this connection [attachment] that underlies empathy and fundamentally underlies the control of aggression"

[david1819]

Shelia using Cannabis and Cocaine is in my view probably a major contribution to her poor mental health they are both known to make schizophrenia and psychosis worse.

We know that Jeremy hated his parents for sending him to boarding school. I have read rumors I repeat rumours that he was raped or molested there? Sexual abuse at a young age is known to develop psychopathy. 

[Holly Goodhead]

Shelia using Cannabis and Cocaine is in my view probably a major contribution to her poor mental health they are both known to make schizophrenia and psychosis worse.

We know that Jeremy hated his parents for sending him to boarding school. I have read rumors I repeat rumours that he was raped or molested there? Sexual abuse at a young age is known to develop psychopathy.

Early adverse experiences as experienced by SC give rise to drug abuse and depression both of which we know SC suffered from:

http://developingchild.harvard.edu/index.php/resources/multimedia/videos/inbrief_series/inbrief_impact_of_adversity/

We don't know that JB hated his parents for sending him to boarding school.  He said he had a difficult time to start with as was probably the case with most of his peers.  I seem to recall Prince Charles said similar when he was sent to Gordonstoun:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2272134/Prince-Charles-Gordonstoun-Punched-slept-friends-tortured-pliers-wonder-called-Colditz-kilts.html

SC also went to boarding school and I understand was expelled from both schools.

There's no evidence JB suffered any sort of sexual assault.  It didn't seem to stop him having normal intimate/sexual relationships with Suzette Ford and JM.  Neither said he was in any way odd sexually.  And SF seemed to think he was normal emotionally too.  Imo she is more reliable given that she was older, married and had children of her own. 

There's absolutely no evidence JB has ever suffered from any psychopathy/personality disorder:

http://jeremybamber.org/psychological-reports/