Effect of June's Mental Illness on Sheila circa 1959

[Holly Goodhead]

I know that Scipio has covered this much better than I ever could, but.....what exactly was going on when Ralph took time out of the desperate situation to call Bamber? Why would Ralph chance at least 5 minutes while Sheila roamed the house with a loaded gun? What if....Bamber was too knackered from harvest, too stoned to pick up, couldn't hear the phone, had left the answerphone on, was at a girlfriend's house (NOT Julie, before someone gets anal about that), had a lock-in at the local, was sitting outside smoking a joint?

Don't sell yourself short    I would read your posts and they would give me food for thought.  With Scipio's they just make me 

I find with Skipio it's quantity over quality.  His posts contain very little supporting evidence by way of links to internal and external sources to back up his assertions.  They are not a patch on posts from the likes of Hartley and Myster who again would at least give me food for thought.  Scipio's posts are so extreme I wonder if he realises much of what he posts is an own goal.  Perhaps that's the whole point  >@@(*&)

Anyway re your post, I think ? I recall seeing a photo with bloody fingerprints on the work surface?

Did some initial confrontation take place in the kitchen between NB and SC with SC waving the gun about in a threatening manner but NB never thinking she would actually use it.  NB calls JB ?.  Meanwhile SC goes to the bedroom and starts shooting June.  NB drops the phone and runs to the bedroom.  Having been shot at he realises, having called JB and asked him to come over, that JB himself is going to be in danger and heads for the kitchen in an attempt to continue the phone call and/or open the kitchen door to warn JB off?

[Holly Goodhead]

If anyone is interested in understanding more about the title thread I've have just done a Google search on 'Disorganised attachment suicide' with 1,750,000 hits.  I've tried typing various permutations with the following key words which return varying numbers in hits:

Disorganised attachment, neuroscience, neurobiology, neurochemistry, aggression, violence, suicide

[Holly Goodhead]

Calling Skipio

Skipio  I was wondering if you might share with us your views on the following:

Adoption: Attachment and Neurobiological Perspectives by Dr Daniel Sonkin (Sonkin  )

http://www.daniel-sonkin.com/pdfs/postadoption2011.pdf

[Holly Goodhead]

Dr Ferguson WS:

"I can say that June after suffering a long period of childlessness was examined and eventually an ovarian cyst was removed.  She made a decision to adopt and having done this suffered severe depressions.  This was around 1959.  She required e.c.t as an in patient and made a full recovery."

A short film (5 mins) : Pendulum : A Portrait of Maternal Depression:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoMm69uMHpE

[Holly Goodhead]

https://interpersonaabpri.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/paper-1_khetrapal.pdf