Cuddlecat and those claimed alerts.

[Robittybob1]

Oh, right, I misinterpreted your post "the cat is out of the bag". What did you mean?

That's right it is a bit of an obscure reference.

[John]

Topic is Cuddlecat and those claimed alerts.  Anything else will be expunged.  TY

[Robittybob1]

Just looking at the official Grime Report
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm
"The only alert indication given was when the dog located a pink cuddly toy in
the villas lounge. The CSI dog did not alert to the toy when screened
separately.

It is my view that it is possible that the EVRD is alerting to cadaver scent
contamination. No evidential or intelligence reliability can be made from this
alert unless it can be confirmed with corroborating evidence. "

Which is completely different than has been said elsewhere where it was said when the cat was in the sideboard the dog alerted to it, but only picked it up and played with in the lounge.  There was no barking to CC in the lounge on video.  The alerting occurred at the sideboard in the dining room.

I wonder why he reported these incidences so at odds with reality?

[sadie]

Just looking at the official Grime Report
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm
"The only alert indication given was when the dog located a pink cuddly toy in
the villas lounge. The CSI dog did not alert to the toy when screened
separately.

It is my view that it is possible that the EVRD is alerting to cadaver scent
contamination. No evidential or intelligence reliability can be made from this
alert unless it can be confirmed with corroborating evidence. "

Which is completely different than has been said elsewhere where it was said when the cat was in the sideboard the dog alerted to it, but only picked it up and played with in the lounge.  There was no barking to CC in the lounge on video.  The alerting occurred at the sideboard in the dining room.

I wonder why he reported these incidences so at odds with reality?

Watch the vidro carefully, Rob

Because Eddie did not actually alert to CCat in the sideboard, he alerted to the pile of ?folders on the top of the sideboard.  This was after having passed his nose close to Ccat twice before, but not alerted ... and having already played with Ccat in the lounge without alerting.

I cant understand why Grime even considered that Eddie could have alerted to Ccat, after seeing him play with it before, with absolutely no alert.  Grime must have been having an off-day or something.

[Robittybob1]

The legal summary
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LEGAL_SUMMARY.htm

"4 - In the "Vista do Mar" villa, the house that was rented by the McCanns after leaving the Ocean's Club, the dog "marked" the area of a wardrobe that contained inside the soft toy that belonged to Madeleine McCann (cf. page 2099 and/or annex 88);"
Wardrobe = sideboard  where cuddle cat had been placed isolated.

Both this and the report from Martin Grime are contradicting one another.

Watch the video carefully, Rob

Because Eddie did not actually alert to CCat in the sideboard, he alerted to the pile of ? folders on the top of the sideboard.  This was after having passed his nose close to Ccat twice before, but not alerted ... and having already played with Ccat in the lounge without alerting.

I can't understand why Grime even considered that Eddie could have alerted to Ccat, after seeing him play with it before, with absolutely no alert.  Grime must have been having an off-day or something.

Well I've watched this video at length and noted it was a ruse (as explained earlier in this thread).  What I didn't realise until today was the ruse was so poorly performed that the two parties involved forgot what they were going to say about it.

[sadie]

The legal summary
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LEGAL_SUMMARY.htm

"4 - In the "Vista do Mar" villa, the house that was rented by the McCanns after leaving the Ocean's Club, the dog "marked" the area of a wardrobe that contained inside the soft toy that belonged to Madeleine McCann (cf. page 2099 and/or annex 88);"
Wardrobe = sideboard  where cuddle cat had been placed isolated.

Both this and the report from Martin Grime are contradicting one another.

Well I've watched this video at length and noted it was a ruse (as explained earlier in this thread).  What I didn't realise until today was the ruse was so poorly performed that the two parties involved forgot what they were going to say about it.

A ruse ?

So you are thinking that the PJ (along with Martin Grimes?) set up false evidence, then filmed it ?   

Then released it to the general public ? 

I cant believe any police force would be that corrupt tbh.

[Robittybob1]

A ruse ?

So you are thinking that the PJ (along with Martin Grimes?) set up false evidence, then filmed it ?   

Then released it to the general public ? 

I cant believe any police force would be that corrupt tbh.

Police are forever setting up stings etc to catch criminals.  Nothing new about this.  What is odd about the McCann case is having the file on the internet.
They were seeing if Kate would confess.
But Kate being completely innocent and intelligent wasn't going to fall for that!

[misty]

A ruse ?

So you are thinking that the PJ (along with Martin Grimes?) set up false evidence, then filmed it ?   

Then released it to the general public ? 

I cant believe any police force would be that corrupt tbh.

They filmed Joao Cipriano & his tardis-type freezer & released it to the public. 

[Robittybob1]

They filmed Joao Cipriano & his tardis-type freezer & released it to the public. 

It is a bit like "Ripley's Believe it or Not"

[sadie]

They filmed Joao Cipriano & his tardis-type freezer & released it to the public. 

snigger....   Oops sorry!

[Robittybob1]

snigger....   Oops sorry!

You're not sniggering at the cat are you? 

[misty]

This cat?

[Robittybob1]

This cat?

He would always be hungry with two mouths to feed.

[Robittybob1]

The legal summary
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LEGAL_SUMMARY.htm

"4 - In the "Vista do Mar" villa, the house that was rented by the McCanns after leaving the Ocean's Club, the dog "marked" the area of a wardrobe that contained inside the soft toy that belonged to Madeleine McCann (cf. page 2099 and/or annex 88);"
Wardrobe = sideboard  where cuddle cat had been placed isolated.

Both this and the report from Martin Grime are contradicting one another.

Well I've watched this video at length and noted it was a ruse (as explained earlier in this thread).  What I didn't realise until today was the ruse was so poorly performed that the two parties involved forgot what they were going to say about it.

One says the alert occurred in the lounge and the other party says it occurred in the sideboard (dining room). 
Yet there is all this hoo ha from the sceptics saying Kate lied about the reason she delayed the trip to Huelva yet on that day either one of the police or Grimes is lying about where the alert on Cuddle Cat occurred.  Actually there was never any alert on Cuddle Cat as Sadie explains.