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Offline mercury

Re: Is this forum anything other than...
« Reply #105 on: September 12, 2016, 02:34:19 AM »
Cant I ? @)(++(*

If course you cant as your evidence is extremely poor

Try harder

Or ekse hook up with robbity he loves your bizarre theories

Have to go now tara

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is this forum anything other than...
« Reply #106 on: September 12, 2016, 03:04:00 AM »
If course you cant as your evidence is extremely poor

Try harder

Or ekse hook up with robbity he loves your bizarre theories

Have to go now tara
I'm trying to get her to come around to my theories first.  Sadie I'm listening though.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Is this forum anything other than...
« Reply #107 on: September 12, 2016, 11:32:46 AM »
I'm trying to get her to come around to my theories first.  Sadie I'm listening though.

You may like to read this thread. Quite a few queries raised but no definitive answers forthcoming imo.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7225.0
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Result = happy posting.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Is this forum anything other than...
« Reply #108 on: September 12, 2016, 12:38:12 PM »
Thanks for replyng

My main gripe here is that the same arguments are runnng around ad infinitum, yes, years,they are a waste of time for all

Opinions are opinions and can be excused to an extent until they become laborious without unrefuted evidence to back them up

This forum is supposed to be fact based, so i didn't thnk anyone should be allowed to state anything as fact when it isnt, only when they say "they just believe so"

the other that needs to be clamped on in here IMO is the just above sanctionary posts that use a lot of sarcasm and goading

  • Madeleine McCann vanished from her bed sometime on the night of 3rd May 2007
  • Robert Murat was constituted arguido 14th May 2007
  • On 30th July 2007 British dogs Eddie and Keela arrived in Praia da Luz
  • Kate and Gerry McCann were constituted arguidos 7th September
  • Madeleine's case was archived 04 August 2008
  • The Portuguese Public Ministry archived the process because no indicium of guilt of the McCanns was proved http://www.mccannfiles.com/id151.html

OK.  These are the facts.  Now you tell me why we continue to 'discuss' the fiction?
« Last Edit: September 12, 2016, 02:46:14 PM by ShiningInLuz »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Is this forum anything other than...
« Reply #109 on: September 12, 2016, 01:57:06 PM »
They seem to be a list of events more than facts related to the case.

A timeline of some of the factual events (there are many more) none of which imo advanced the search for Madeleine McCann by one iota ...

Out of the list the most important as far as the theme pursued by Mercury is concerned being
The Portuguese Public Ministry archived the process because no indicium of guilt of the McCanns was proved http://www.mccannfiles.com/id151.html
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is this forum anything other than...
« Reply #110 on: September 12, 2016, 08:09:05 PM »
A timeline of some of the factual events (there are many more) none of which imo advanced the search for Madeleine McCann by one iota ...

Out of the list the most important as far as the theme pursued by Mercury is concerned being
The Portuguese Public Ministry archived the process because no indicium of guilt of the McCanns was proved http://www.mccannfiles.com/id151.html
Thanks but Mercury must be wrong.  It should really be "The Portuguese Public Ministry archived the process because no indicium of guilt of anyone was proved.   
Part of the problem was the excessively narrow focus of the investigation on the McCanns, and hence the investigation missed the case against the others.
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Offline mercury

Re: Is this forum anything other than...
« Reply #111 on: September 12, 2016, 10:22:33 PM »
  • Madeleine McCann vanished from her bed sometime on the night of 3rd May 2007
  • Robert Murat was constituted arguido 14th May 2007
  • On 30th July 2007 British dogs Eddie and Keela arrived in Praia da Luz
  • Kate and Gerry McCann were constituted arguidos 7th September
  • Madeleine's case was archived 04 August 2008
  • The Portuguese Public Ministry archived the process because no indicium of guilt of the McCanns was proved http://www.mccannfiles.com/id151.html

OK.  These are the facts.  Now you tell me why we continue to 'discuss' the fiction?

Is there any reason why you truncated that article? The full version, despite  it being from a newspaper/media group consistently sympathetic to the parents, will answer some of your questions

Indeed, "questions" is the pertinent word.
The case was archived, but not without reservations
The case was not archived by saying the Mccanns were not involved
It was archived based on the whole process and its results and on the public prosecutors decisions
It was good in a way, better than some people in this country getting banged up on nothing and KNOWINGLY SO

As to your last sentence are you stating that anything post the final PPs summary is all fiction? Or would you just prefer people to light candles and hope for the best for the mccanns, yes them, because no one except a Cold cruel psycopath doesnt hope that that innocent child might be alive but is realistic snough to know she probably isnt...her parents know this too, and have said it publically


Lastly, the reason i started this thread is because i post in other forums, (none MM related, just normal ones) when i come to this one it seems like a mad hatters tea party on cocaine and diesnt seem to be getting any better


For your perusal, the FULL article, but Im sure youve read it anyway

Public Ministry archived the process because no indicium of guilt of the McCanns was proved Lusa/SOL
 
Madeleine case
 
04 August 2008
Thanks to 'astro' for translation
 
The Public Ministry (PM) sustained that the McCann couple had no responsibilities in the disappearance of their daughter Madeleine, due to a lack of confirmation of the indicia of guilt

In the archiving dispatch that is part of the process that was made public today, the PM refers that none of the indicia over which the parents of the girl that went missing on the 3rd of May 2007, from a bedroom in the Ocean Club resort, in Praia da Luz, were made arguidos, was confirmed.

The process, which was archived on the 21st of July, was made available during the afternoon today, and is composed of approximately 30 thousand pages, distributed over more than fifty volumes, appendixes, rogatory letters and reports, among other documents.

Among the motives to consider that the couple had no responsibilities in their daughter's disappearance, the PM points out, in the archiving dispatch, that none of them was in the apartment when the child disappeared.

Underlining that one of the indicia that led to the McCanns being made arguidos were some markings done by the English police dogs that were in Praia da Luz in August, the PM stresses that those markings were not ratified in posterior analyses.

The other element that led the McCanns to being made arguidos, an email that was considered as compromising, would also end up being discarded as an element of evidence.

According to the document, even if the couple was responsible for their daughter's death, it would have to be explained under which circumstances that happened, namely, how, when, what for and with what help.

In order to justify the lack of support for the couple to hide the body, in a scenario within which they eventually would be involved in the disappearance of their daughter, the PM points out that Kate and Gerry did not know the terrain that surrounded the resort.

On the other hand, it refers that the McCanns had no contacts in Portugal whatsoever, and as proof of that it points out the fact that on the days before, they limited their contacts to the group of friends with whom they spent the holidays.

In defence of the theory of non-involvement, the dispatch also points out that, contrary to what was said during the days following the abduction, the couple did not contact any media before they contacted the police.

Despite discarding the involvement of the couple, the PM laments that it has not been possible to carry out the reconstruction of what happened on the evening of May 3, stating that the surveillance system from the group concerning the children that slept in the apartment block needed to be tested.

The PM also recognises that there are doubts concerning the contents of the depositions that were given by the group – including the McCann couple – that dined at the Tapas restaurant, and points out the existence of details that were not justified.

Concerning the homicide theory in abstract, the PM defends that the possibility cannot be discarded, but notes that it cannot be more than a mere supposition due to the lack of elements to sustain it in the police files.

Furthermore, the dispatch observes that the process is not definitely closed and that, in theory, all the crime scenarios – abduction, homicide, accidental death with concealment of the cadaver – are maintained, albeit with no credible factual support.

Among several considerations, the PM guarantees that the behaviour of the media during the days that followed the disappearance of the British child disturbed the investigations, and criticises the anticipated judgment of the arguidos, which, in its understanding, denote little respect for the human person.

The process was delivered today, at around 4.30 p.m., to the dozens of Portuguese and British journalists who required it, in DVD format.


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Offline mercury

Re: Is this forum anything other than...
« Reply #112 on: September 12, 2016, 10:26:36 PM »
Thanks but Mercury must be wrong.  It should really be "The Portuguese Public Ministry archived the process because no indicium of guilt of anyone was proved.   
Part of the problem was the excessively narrow focus of the investigation on the McCanns, and hence the investigation missed the case against the others.

I wasnt the public prosecutor

 8(>((
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is this forum anything other than...
« Reply #113 on: September 12, 2016, 10:32:31 PM »
What does anyone know about this sentence i n Mercury's reply
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The other element that led the McCanns to being made arguidos, an email that was considered as compromising, would also end up being discarded as an element of evidence.
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Offline mercury

Re: Is this forum anything other than...
« Reply #114 on: September 12, 2016, 10:34:20 PM »
What does anyone know about this sentence i n Mercury's reply

Why are you not asking me?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is this forum anything other than...
« Reply #115 on: September 12, 2016, 10:38:05 PM »
Why are you not asking me?
I was as you are included in the category "anyone".  Mercury do you know about the "email that was considered as compromising"?
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Offline sadie

Re: Is this forum anything other than...
« Reply #116 on: September 14, 2016, 04:53:47 PM »
BUMPED

I was as you are included in the category "anyone".  Mercury do you know about the "email that was considered as compromising"?