Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine

[Mr Gray]

Why? I am sure you aren't denigrating Benice.

so let's see if you can substantiate your claim
I don't think you can
Are you referring to the post by benice

[Alfie]

Ha ha, it was The Lancet actually, my mistake. It was the 'family' who told The Lancet, so how did they make that mistake? If it had been discussed they would surely have been reassured by her doctor parents that it was 'just a fleck of colour'. A coloboma is a specific condition requiring examination to discover which part of the eye is involved and ongoing monitoring to check eyesight and to make sure there's no other associated health problems.

Piers Morgan asked about it and Gerry waffled;

"G. MCCANN: Certainly believe it wouldn't have changed. I think there's been a pattern to be still there. That it's -- the technical term is coloboma, where there's a defect in the iris.

I don't think it is actually. I think it's actually an additional bit of color. She certainly had no visual problems."

If it was an additional bit of colour it can't be called a coloboma, 'technically' or otherwise. A coloboma is not a defect in the iris, it's a hole in one of the structures of the eye, such as the iris, retina, choroid, or optic disc. If Madeleine had one it would have been picked up in her infant checks and she would have been referred to an ophthalmologist. She either had one or she didn't and her parents would know.

WOuld you kindly explain why any of this matters??  Coloboma, eye defect, it makes no difference to the general public who were asked to look out for a little girl with a fleck in her eye.    If the McCanns had lied and said "Madeleine has a coloboma" why did they do so - for what advantage to them, and second, if they said Madeleine has a coloboma why did Gerry then say later he didn't think it was a coloboma?  Apart from trotting out the cliche "confusion is good" perhaps you could give this matter some thought and let me know why this is of critical importance to this case.

[G-Unit]

WOuld you kindly explain why any of this matters??  Coloboma, eye defect, it makes no difference to the general public who were asked to look out for a little girl with a fleck in her eye.    If the McCanns had lied and said "Madeleine has a coloboma" why did they do so - for what advantage to them, and second, if they said Madeleine has a coloboma why did Gerry then say later he didn't think it was a coloboma?  Apart from trotting out the cliche "confusion is good" perhaps you could give this matter some thought and let me know why this is of critical importance to this case.

I can't remember how it came up; you'll have to read back. It was a great marketing ploy, that's for sure. Look! Look into my eyes! Pity it turned into a hardly noticeable 'fleck' later. All those eager sighters peering into children's eyes. As Kate told Piers Morgan they would have to be very close to her to see it.

[Alice Purjorick]

I can't remember how it came up; you'll have to read back. It was a great marketing ploy, that's for sure. Look! Look into my eyes! Pity it turned into a hardly noticeable 'fleck' later. All those eager sighters peering into children's eyes. As Kate told Piers Morgan they would have to be very close to her to see it.

Didn't Clarence Mitchell once organise a press conference where any poster, as in bill poster,  to do with case had "o"s with lines coming out at the eight o'clock position?
In the light of what followed and is being said now, apparently, maybe CM should change his name to Don John.

[Alfie]

I can't remember how it came up; you'll have to read back. It was a great marketing ploy, that's for sure. Look! Look into my eyes! Pity it turned into a hardly noticeable 'fleck' later. All those eager sighters peering into children's eyes. As Kate told Piers Morgan they would have to be very close to her to see it.

Madeleine was a little blonde girl.  The world is full of little blond girls.  There is something slightly unusual about Madeleine that sets her apart from the majority of little blond girls.  That would s a fleck in her eye.  If you can't understand why this information might have helped in the hunt for the child then that really is your problem.

ETA: you didn't explain why you think this (non)issue is worth raising again - it's not the first time it's been discussed here so you must think it has some importance, what is it?  A quick search on this forum reveals you have raised this subject on more than half a dozen different threads http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?action=search2

[ferryman]

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8179.msg403267#msg403267

A plain application of logic and common sense that no one in their right minds would produce an efit of a man they thought was Gerry is all that's needed, here.

But allying it the fact that Mrs Smith is on record as saying that the Smiths' hearts are breaking for the McCanns, and that they stand ready to assist the McCanns in any way they can to get Madeleine back definitely helps. 

[Alice Purjorick]

Madeleine was a little blonde girl. The world is full of little blond girls.  There is something slightly unusual about Madeleine that sets her apart from the majority of little blond girls.  That would s a fleck in her eye.  If you can't understand why this information might have helped in the hunt for the child then that really is your problem.

ETA: you didn't explain why you think this (non)issue is worth raising again - it's not the first time it's been discussed here so you must think it has some importance, what is it?

Well about 25% worldwide are blonde. This one does not have blue eyes but has a fleck.
Should be easy enough to spot.

[slartibartfast]

so let's see if you can substantiate your claim
I don't think you can
Are you referring to the post by benice

Since I linked to it, it is logical.

[G-Unit]

Madeleine was a little blonde girl.  The world is full of little blond girls.  There is something slightly unusual about Madeleine that sets her apart from the majority of little blond girls.  That would s a fleck in her eye.  If you can't understand why this information might have helped in the hunt for the child then that really is your problem.

ETA: you didn't explain why you think this (non)issue is worth raising again - it's not the first time it's been discussed here so you must think it has some importance, what is it?  A quick search on this forum reveals you have raised this subject on more than half a dozen different threads http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?action=search2

Well, The Sun is still on about it too; Kate and Gerry should tell them it's 'just a fleck';

3rd May 2007

THE MARK OF MADDIE
What is coloboma, Madeleine McCann’s eye defect?
What causes it and how rare is it? Here’s all you need to know
https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/3426444/coloboma-madeleine-mccann-eye-defect-rare-cause/

[Mr Gray]

Well, The Sun is still on about it too; Kate and Gerry should tell them it's 'just a fleck';

3rd May 2007

THE MARK OF MADDIE
What is coloboma, Madeleine McCann’s eye defect?
What causes it and how rare is it? Here’s all you need to know
https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/3426444/coloboma-madeleine-mccann-eye-defect-rare-cause/

I have never heard the McCanns refer to the fleck as a coloboma and I would say you havent  either
Provide a cite

[Alfie]

Well, The Sun is still on about it too; Kate and Gerry should tell them it's 'just a fleck';

3rd May 2007

THE MARK OF MADDIE
What is coloboma, Madeleine McCann’s eye defect?
What causes it and how rare is it? Here’s all you need to know
https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/3426444/coloboma-madeleine-mccann-eye-defect-rare-cause/

Why should they, what does it matter?  You reckon a member of the public is going to see a teenage girl who resembles Madeleine McCann with a fleck in her eye and say to themselves: hmmm that just looks like a fleck not a coloboma so I won't bother to mention it to anyone "?

[faithlilly]

Why should they, what does it matter?  You reckon a member of the public is going to see a teenage girl who resembles Madeleine McCann with a fleck in her eye and say to themselves: hmmm that just looks like a fleck not a coloboma so I won't bother to mention it to anyone "?

It matters because it yet again displays the McCanns predisposition for playing fast and loose with the truth.

[Eleanor]

It matters because it yet again displays the McCanns predisposition for playing fast and loose with the truth.

No it does not.

[ShiningInLuz]

I am about to post my view of the Sky 10th anniversary special on my blog.

I would like to add a few comments about what the programme revealed, if anything, to the armchair detective brigade.

I have re-read this thread back to 2 May 2017 to garner what I can about what members picked up.  I am not interested in a thumbs-up or a thumbs-down.  I am interested in whether it brought anything new to your attention.

TY