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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Where is the alert on Cuddle Cat happening and is it on video?
« Reply #120 on: August 23, 2018, 08:39:43 PM »
Are you suggesting that as far as Gime and his dogs are concerned we should just accept everything he says or his dogs suggest without question?

Google
Poacher martin grime
Poacher claimed to be a dog handler who knew grime and makes some interesting  points... And grime doesn't seem to have sued him

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Where is the alert on Cuddle Cat happening and is it on video?
« Reply #121 on: August 23, 2018, 08:49:32 PM »
Google
Poacher martin grime
Poacher claimed to be a dog handler who knew grime and makes some interesting  points... And grime doesn't seem to have sued him

Poacher is an anonymous denizen of the internet.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Where is the alert on Cuddle Cat happening and is it on video?
« Reply #122 on: August 23, 2018, 08:53:55 PM »
Poacher is an anonymous denizen of the internet.

Everything he says makes, sense and adds up

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Where is the alert on Cuddle Cat happening and is it on video?
« Reply #123 on: August 23, 2018, 09:35:16 PM »
Everything he says makes, sense and adds up

It would to you, casts baseless doubt on Grime’s work.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Where is the alert on Cuddle Cat happening and is it on video?
« Reply #124 on: August 23, 2018, 09:37:47 PM »
It would to you, casts baseless doubt on Grime’s work.

There's a lot if detail there.... And he answers several things that I have thought about...

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Where is the alert on Cuddle Cat happening and is it on video?
« Reply #125 on: August 24, 2018, 12:14:43 AM »
There's a lot if detail there.... And he answers several things that I have thought about...
Even in a court Martin Grime would be cross examined or questioned.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2018, 12:41:08 AM by Robittybob1 »
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Offline Brietta

Re: Where is the alert on Cuddle Cat happening and is it on video?
« Reply #126 on: August 24, 2018, 03:03:24 AM »
There's a lot if detail there.... And he answers several things that I have thought about...

I'm not exactly sure that 'Poacher' is as anonymous as people think he is.  I believe I know who he is and I believe I know his ranking in the police force having come across a lengthy post about him containing a post by him in a place on the internet where you would least expect it to be.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Where is the alert on Cuddle Cat happening and is it on video?
« Reply #127 on: August 24, 2018, 03:08:10 AM »
Poacher is an anonymous denizen of the internet.
denizen

noun
formal humorous
a person, animal, or plant that lives or is found in a particular place.
"denizens of field and forest"
synonyms:   inhabitant, resident, townsman, townswoman, native, local; More
BRITISH historical
a foreigner allowed certain rights in their adopted country."

A denizen of the internet.  A bit like me then.
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Offline Sunny

Re: Where is the alert on Cuddle Cat happening and is it on video?
« Reply #128 on: August 24, 2018, 07:13:04 AM »
I have seen an older post quoting this but I am not now sure I can share it because of the rules. Anyway this hopefully will put the bed the theories posted earlier here on this thread that Eddie would have alerted to bacon

Eddie, the dog with an advanced training to detect mortal victims (E.V.R.D.), searches and locates human remains and body fluids, including blood, in any environment or terrain. The initial training of the dog was done with human blood and decaying piglets that were born dead. The importance of this training is that the dog learnt to identify the odour of a decaying body that is not food. This guaranties that the dog ignores the 'bacon sandwich' and the 'kebab', etc. that are always present in the environment. Besides that the dog will not alert to a meal prepared at home or on any other place. For instance, the dog will be efficient on searching a cadaver in café where the clients can be sitted eating a bacon sandwich. As a complement of this training, the dog receives an additional training in the USA, in association with the FBI, in which will be used exclusively human remains' (sic) (page 2493 and 2494).


http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/OUSTROS_APENSOS_11_VOLUMES.htm
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Where is the alert on Cuddle Cat happening and is it on video?
« Reply #129 on: August 24, 2018, 07:23:36 AM »
In that same link it says:
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/OUSTROS_APENSOS_11_VOLUMES.htm
"On one of the films, it's possible to see that 'Eddie' sniffs Madeleine's cuddle cat, more than once, bites it, throws it into the air and only after the toy is hidden does he 'mark' it (page 2099). Why didn't he signal it when he sniffs it on the first time'

Apart from all that was said about the dogs, we must also take into attention the results of the forensic analysis that was performed by the experts on the Scientific Police Laboratory on the day immediately after the facts, and already mentioned where no vestige of blood was found."

So even the PJ are questioning the validity of the Cuddle Cat alert. 
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Offline Brietta

Re: Where is the alert on Cuddle Cat happening and is it on video?
« Reply #130 on: August 24, 2018, 09:52:19 AM »
I have seen an older post quoting this but I am not now sure I can share it because of the rules. Anyway this hopefully will put the bed the theories posted earlier here on this thread that Eddie would have alerted to bacon

Eddie, the dog with an advanced training to detect mortal victims (E.V.R.D.), searches and locates human remains and body fluids, including blood, in any environment or terrain. The initial training of the dog was done with human blood and decaying piglets that were born dead. The importance of this training is that the dog learnt to identify the odour of a decaying body that is not food. This guaranties that the dog ignores the 'bacon sandwich' and the 'kebab', etc. that are always present in the environment. Besides that the dog will not alert to a meal prepared at home or on any other place. For instance, the dog will be efficient on searching a cadaver in café where the clients can be sitted eating a bacon sandwich. As a complement of this training, the dog receives an additional training in the USA, in association with the FBI, in which will be used exclusively human remains' (sic) (page 2493 and 2494).


http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/OUSTROS_APENSOS_11_VOLUMES.htm

What rule?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Where is the alert on Cuddle Cat happening and is it on video?
« Reply #131 on: August 24, 2018, 09:56:07 AM »
What rule?
afaiac there is no rule preventing any poster citing any post... Some seem to think there is

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Where is the alert on Cuddle Cat happening and is it on video?
« Reply #132 on: August 24, 2018, 09:59:24 AM »
In that same link it says:
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/OUSTROS_APENSOS_11_VOLUMES.htm
"On one of the films, it's possible to see that 'Eddie' sniffs Madeleine's cuddle cat, more than once, bites it, throws it into the air and only after the toy is hidden does he 'mark' it (page 2099). Why didn't he signal it when he sniffs it on the first time'

Apart from all that was said about the dogs, we must also take into attention the results of the forensic analysis that was performed by the experts on the Scientific Police Laboratory on the day immediately after the facts, and already mentioned where no vestige of blood was found."

So even the PJ are questioning the validity of the Cuddle Cat alert.

I have posted a report from the files, several times which sees the PJ questioning other alerts where the dog ignored places initially before later alerting... It begs the question whether if the dogs had been allowed more time in other apartments... As they were in 5a... There may have been alerts elsewhere

Offline Brietta

Re: Where is the alert on Cuddle Cat happening and is it on video?
« Reply #133 on: August 24, 2018, 11:57:28 AM »
afaiac there is no rule preventing any poster citing any post... Some seem to think there is

It is my understanding that there is no such rule.

Does it make sense to ignore information on our own forum on the pretext it is 'time barred' when historic information from many other sources is used daily?


Which calls to mind Angelo's admonition from yesterday about linking to blogs and anonymous bloggers ... which is against forum protocols.  It was rigidly enforced at one time but I think we may have been a bit relaxed about that of late ... so may be worth some thought about what is being linked to when posting in future.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....