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icabodcrane

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So we now have two claims that  someone was in the McCann's apartment the night before Madeleine disappeared

This latest version, that  a concerned couple went in to comfort a crying child ....  and the McCann's own version,  that the abductor was in there doing a recce

Was that their version?  Or was it something the McCanns just wondered about - when they thought back - and KM couldn't pinpoint why Madeleine's pajama top had a stain on it.    You make it sound as if the McCanns were claiming a 'reccie' as a definite fact rather than just a possibility.    I don't think they did that.

"But it is my belief there was  somebody either in or trying to get into the children's bedroom that night, and that is what disturbed them"

Kate,  page 63 of her book

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So we now have two claims that  someone was in the McCann's apartment the night before Madeleine disappeared

This latest version, that  a concerned couple went in to comfort a crying child ....  and the McCann's own version,  that the abductor was in there doing a recce

Was that their version?  Or was it something the McCanns just wondered about - when they thought back - and KM couldn't pinpoint why Madeleine's pajama top had a stain on it.    You make it sound as if the McCanns were claiming a 'reccie' as a definite fact rather than just a possibility.    I don't think they did that.

"But it is my belief there was  somebody either in or trying to get into the children's bedroom that night, and that is what disturbed them"

Kate,  page 63 of her book

Ahh right - My apols Icabodcrane -  I stand corrected.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

AnneGuedes

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"But it is my belief there was  somebody either in or trying to get into the children's bedroom that night, and that is what disturbed them"

Kate,  page 63 of her book
A little girl spots JT carrier entering her bedroom, likely thinks this is a nightmare and starts crying, JT carrier flies away swearing he'll be back with sedation stuff. And the following day the little girl "passes a remark" about where her parents were when she cried.
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Getting back to the original thread topic,  I've been wondering  ...  we have now been made aware that there were possibly, two occasions when  Madeleine cried   ... one when Mrs Fenn heard her becoming increasingly distressed for an hour and a quarter,  and then again, the following night,  when the mystery couple went into the apartment to  'soothe'  her

How can that be  ?

If the tapas group have been honest about their checking regime then barely 10 minutes could ever have passed without one or other of them, on their trips back and fore,   being close enough to the McCann apartment to have  heard  Madeleine crying

You are forgetting one very important point.  Unless Madeleines bedroom in 5A was actually being deliberately checked no-one would be likely to hear her in there, even if she were crying.  The window was closed, the shutters down ... and most importantly it was on nobodies route to their apartment.  At the front, flat 5A was the end of the line.

Everybody had to enter the car park via the drive in.  Already they were past Madeleines bedroom as they entered the car park, and about 13 yards away. 

To get to their flats, they had to walk that walled pathway, they had to go to the start of it.  The start was in the middle of the building.  As they walked, they would be looking ahead at the start of the path in the middle of block...  and as they walked towards it they would always be walking further away from 5A


That is until they turned into the pathway, but the building was sticking out for the first bit and then they would all go into the open area that held the front doors to their flats and the stairs also.  Doubtful if the sound would carry throught curtains, window and shutter to such distant walkers, or around the sticking out bit of building.

This is s bit long winded.  I will see if I can find a map.



See the RH red spot against the building?  Well Madeleines bedroom is a tadge to the east of that.

Count 4 and 6 1/2 spots along from that first spot.    I think that between those is where the open-fronted entrance hall is.  This is the space that leads to the stairs and front doors of the other relevant apartments.  Peeps will cut the corner and walk the shortest route, so very quickly they are no longer going towards Madeleines bedroom

The most westerly red spot is the middle of the block and where the pathway starts/ends

You can see the drive in.  Here the red spots should really run in a straightish line to the end of the walled pathway, cos peeps will walk the shortest route .

The drive in is about 13 yards away from Madeleines bedroom and nobody really gets much closer.  Nor would they be likely to look in the direction of 5A

As I said before, only peeps actually checking 5A would hear Madeleine crying, imo 


She wasn't crying at 8.30 pm, nor at 9pm, nor at 9.30 pm ... and she was discovered missing at 10pm.



She was checked every half an hour.  So was she crying?  I think it is unlikely.