The suggestion that the kids may have been sedated issue.

[Benice]

Ridiculous! if you take a child to a hospital and say I suspext x y z has happened, of course  they will check!Especially if it is considered life threatening. Since WHEN have YOU gone into accident and emergency and theyrequired a letter from anyone to treat your child.

Oh and Davel, KM saying something four years after an event is not evidence! Talk about stretching the truth. There IS no evidence she was running around looking for Madeleine, ie there is absolutely nothng and nobody that can back that up.

I suspect that if the same had happened in the UK - the police would have immediately arranged to have the twins checked out - once the parents expressed concern.   They would not have all gone home as the Pj did  - and left the parents not knowing what was happening - and then done nothing. 

There is no evidence either that Kate did not go out looking for Madeleine.  You just choose to believe it because you want to.  The GNR officers she spoke to first -  before she set off would know, but as there is no witness statement signed in blood from them saying that  - you can carry on choosing to disbelieve it.  Your prerogative.

[Redblossom]

I suspect that if the same had happened in the UK - the police would have immediately arranged to have the twins checked out - once the parents expressed concern.   They would not have all gone home as the Pj did  - and left the parents not knowing what was happening - and then done nothing. 

There is no evidence either that Kate did not go out looking for Madeleine.  You just choose to believe it because you want to.  The GNR officers she spoke to first -  before she set off would know, but as there is no witness statement signed in blood from them saying that  - you can carry on choosing to disbelieve it.  Your prerogative.

No evidence they did say anything to the police whatsoever on that night or any other time,express concern for twins or askfor tests,until three months later, zilch, not gerrys or any one elses testimony, not kates, either, nothing in their statements at all, not interviews, or chats with friends and famioy, nothing,until woopy doo four years later Kate pens it, so must be true



No evidence Kate searched either, in fact the opposite is true,people said she stayed in the flat....your perogative to believe her on her word ONLY

[Albertini]

They would not have all gone home as the Pj did - and left the parents not knowing what was happening - and then done nothing. 

Really? Think you will find that's another myth.

[stephen25000]

as you can't spell the word it would not be very convincing.

Nit picking. The spelling I gave was indicated as being incorrect on this system.

Please try again.

Can we return to the discussion ?

[AnneGuedes]

No evidence they did say anything to the police whatsoever on that night or any other time,express concern for twins or askfor tests,until three months later, zilch, not gerrys or any one elses testimony, not kates, either, nothing in their statements at all, not interviews, or chats with friends and famioy, nothing,until woopy doo four years later Kate pens it, so must be true



No evidence Kate searched either, in fact the opposite is true,people said she stayed in the flat....your perogative to believe her on her word ONLY

Mrs Payne, who so generously stayed in the flat with Mrs McCann, doesn't mention any searching. Actually I think Dr McCann wouldn't have left her twins without regular check she had some reason to practise.

[Redblossom]

Mrs Payne, who so generously stayed in the flat with Mrs McCann, doesn't mention any searching. Actually I think Dr McCann wouldn't have left her twins without regular check she had some reason to practise.

No, she didnt, as I said, not a single soul ever did. IMO she just wrote that to deal with criticisms that she never did. As for the asking police that night re drugs and other days in the coming weeks as said in the book and they did nothing, I find that very hard to believe and IMO is nothing more than another attempt to criticise them ....whats new, it began on the night of the disappearance!

[sadie]

Poor answer and proof you did NOT read or reflect on my post,Or you have an inability to read, oh well, your loss, read it AGAIN and rebutt all the points


Dont need any apologies from anyone here

Fiona Payne was the only woman from the group to help in the searches. Fiona searched the periphery of the complex ' one search, which she made alone. When she returned she spent the rest of the night with Kate.

It is difficult to confirm where all the elements were in the minutes/ hours after the discovery that Madeleine was missing. It appears that most of the women remained within or near the apartments, Fiona Payne left and searched around the complex, before returning to the McCann's apartment where she stayed with Kate. Then Emma Knights (client support director) searched the beach area and asked Kate what Madeleine had been wearing. Shortly afterwards Emma returned to the McCann's apartment and stayed with Kate.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/BRIGADE-OF-INFORMATION.htm

 
Davel, do you have a link to any single person saying they saw Kate Mccann out searching that night? Any link to any police officer saying she went to speak to them? Any link to any video or paper interview Kate Mccann has done where she says she did any searching that night? Any link to any of her friendS or family  saying she did that? Over four years?I bet no. What we do have is comments made that are taken that she did not search that night, but waited until light, including her own recorded ones. In their 2008 documentary Gerry was saying he insisted Kate stay home, so many witness statements say she was at home. The only reference  to her doing any search that night comes only in 2011 in the book Madeleine. Thats it.

Now, police advice apprently is not to search, did the police advise the parents that night not to do this? or prevent the parents from doing this. I see nothing like that in the files.

The point is some people question why she didnt, thats all. So there shouldnt be any reason you get  so indignated when people say she didnt. And wonder how a mother, even with dozens of people searching could just sit there. IMO she wrote of her search in her book to answer those questions.

And next morning after sunrise,which she says she was waiting for to go out and search, she was horrified there was no one out. Well, they had been out all flipping night! And they had no sunlight.

My reference to her not searching because it cold and dark I admit could be wrong because she mentioned it in the same breath.  But the because it was dark is documented. And NO, being wrong or misconstruing something is not a deliberate lie, thank you

Mrs McCann stayed in a bedroom praying. She said: “It was really cold. I knew what pyjamas she had on and I just thought she’s going to be freezing. And it was just dark and dark and every minute seemed like an hour.
“Obviously, we were up all night and just waited for the first bit of light at six o’clock.”
Mr McCann added: “And then we went out searching, the two of us. We were saying over and over again just let her be found, let her be found.”

Taken from their ITV documentary 2008


I see a spin off thread coming  on

So Fiona was the only woman to search, you say?

Why do you think that was Red?

[Redblossom]

No, they are not my words, they come from a PJ report as linked, do keep up

[sadie]

No, they are not my words, they come from a PJ report as linked, do keep up

Interesting!

So lies, yet again, and in an ACTUAL PJ report.

Bias! 

That is even worse than you getting it wrong Red

[Redblossom]

Interesting!

So lies, yet again, and in an ACTUAL PJ report.

Bias! 

That is even worse than you getting it wrong Red

and your evidence the PJ lied is?