Did this finding get followed up by the PJ?

[jassi]

Did the parents have to have a Justice of the Peace with them when they did their checks?

Unfortunately not

[Miss Taken Identity]

But we don't know when she went missing.

Last independent witness is early in the day.- just saying.

DP has a notion to pop into see all three angels -well looked after children (well apart from night time). He never had this notion before -it was Gerry who asked him to because... (diffrent versions of this reason) THEN as luck would have it  Gerry who never did a physical check any other time, decided to have a wee peek to see his beautiful daughter  asleep where he left her on top of the bed as it was hot-  well mum claims under the covers all snuggled as it was cold, but anyway. all these checks AND then like cinderella a clock struck!!!!! and mum also did a physical check... aside from these  checks we had other tapas listening at doors no abductors in sight...

No time for abduction therefore doing a check after leaving the children so long why bother searching a room if you knew your daughter was 'taken' and you knew the time frame...

[Robittybob1]

Unfortunately not

Parents checking their children right across the globe do their checks largely unconfirmed simply because they are on their own when its done.

[jassi]

Parents checking their children right across the globe do their checks largely unconfirmed simply because they are on their own when its done.

They don't usually mislay them during prolonged absence though, so the problem doesn't arise.

[Robittybob1]

Last independent witness is early in the day.- just saying.

DP has a notion to pop into see all three angels -well looked after children (well apart from night time). He never had this notion before -it was Gerry who asked him to because... (diffrent versions of this reason) THEN as luck would have it  Gerry who never did a physical check any other time, decided to have a wee peek to see his beautiful daughter  asleep where he left her on top of the bed as it was hot-  well mum claims under the covers all snuggled as it was cold, but anyway. all these checks AND then like cinderella a clock struck!!!!! and mum also did a physical check... aside from these  checks we had other tapas listening at doors no abductors in sight...

No time for abduction therefore doing a check after leaving the children so long why bother searching a room if you knew your daughter was 'taken' and you knew the time frame...

Kate did the right thing to confirm her conclusion.  Double checked the interior of her apartment.

[Robittybob1]

They don't usually mislay them during prolonged absence though, so the problem doesn't arise.

I disagree.   If a child goes missing the caregiver who should have looked after the child will be treated as a potential suspect regardless of what they say.

[jassi]

I disagree.   If a child goes missing the caregiver who should have looked after the child will be treated ass a potential suspect regardless of what they say.

Which of course is what happened, much to the McCanns indignation.

[Robittybob1]

Which of course is what happened, much to the McCanns indignation.

So it is pointless saying a check on the kids was unconfirmed.  Even if they claimed to have been there in the apartment all night it is still unconfirmed.
A parent who claims to have been home all night that claim is still unconfirmed.

[jassi]

So it is pointless saying a check on the kids was unconfirmed.  Even if they claimed to have been there in the apartment all night it is still unconfirmed.

In that case it's likely that that they would have been seen, maybe enjoying a drink in their patio, or perhaps even with some of their friends.

The point remains, no one knows exactly when Madeleine disappeared.

[Robittybob1]

In that case it's likely that that they would have been seen, maybe enjoying a drink in their patio, or perhaps even with some of their friends.

The point remains, no one knows exactly when Madeleine disappeared.

Unless someone saw her leaving.  But then you could claim that was unconfirmed!

[Miss Taken Identity]

So it is pointless saying a check on the kids was unconfirmed.  Even if they claimed to have been there in the apartment all night it is still unconfirmed.
A parent who claims to have been home all night that claim is still unconfirmed.

It's not pointless if you are a police officer trying to establish a timeframe where the child is said to have disappeared!

Kate didn't know Gerry'alledgedly' saw MBM in her bed he never mentioned it at the table or in his statements. She does mention Gerry was away for a while. Others mentioned that too.

[Robittybob1]

It's not pointless if you are a police officer trying to establish a timeframe where the child is said to have disappeared!

Kate didn't know Gerry'alledgedly' saw MBM in her bed he never mentioned it at the table or in his statements. She does mention Gerry was away for a while. Others mentioned that too.

OK do you think the PJ were aware of this time "away" by Gerry.  So why did they put maximum pressure on Kate and not Gerry?  That's what I want to know?
What do you think he was doing while he was away?

I'd have to ask you whether you'd believe Kate or Gerry no matter what they say in their statements? Why say: "Kate didn't know Gerry 'allegedly' saw MBM in her bed he never mentioned it at the table or in his statements" for I doubt if you would believe them even if they did.

[Miss Taken Identity]

OK do you think the PJ were aware of this time "away" by Gerry.  So why did they put maximum pressure on Kate and not Gerry?  That's what I want to know?
What do you think he was doing while he was away?

I'd have to ask you whether you'd believe Kate or Gerry no matter what they say in their statements? Why say: "Kate didn't know Gerry 'allegedly' saw MBM in her bed he never mentioned it at the table or in his statements" for I doubt if you would believe them even if they did.

Well , it really doesn't matter what I believe, or who I believe. I am just stating facts. No point in shooting the messenger mista.   At what point did Gerry say he checked on M.? Kate noticed Gerry was  longer than usual he says using the toilet... she suggested he may be watching football? Who know? none of it makes any sense to me.

[Robittybob1]

Well , it really doesn't matter what I believe, or who I believe. I am just stating facts. No point in shooting the messenger mista.   At what point did Gerry say he checked on M.? Kate noticed Gerry was  longer than usual he says using the toilet... she suggested he may be watching football? Who know? none of it makes any sense to me.

Makes no sense to me either, but why blame Kate for what Gerry could have been doing?  That is what I'm asking.
I think you need to work on the logic a bit more.

[Robittybob1]

So it is really just an imaginary situation.

OG have explained Tannerman, even if you don't like their explanation.
Do you think they are incompetent in their investigation ?

Their conclusion and mine match, Both they say and I say Tannerman is not carrying Madeleine, so the focus goes onto Smithman.   Logic would have it that the abduction of Madeleine happened between 9:35 and 9:55 PM.
Which also aligns with the findings I have made so far.

In other words OG and myself are in agreement and therefore I would not say they are incompetent.