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Offline Sunny

Re: Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2018, 04:58:24 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on August 22, 2018, 04:57:09 PM
IMO discussion is regularly closed down on this forum by sceptics - those who refuse to answer questions or to be drawn into discussing their opinions, their theories or to say what they really think, who deflect with ad homs, strawmen and other tactics.  I'm all for completely open and honest exchange of views, but that doesn't seem popular with some sceptics.

I don't see much open discussion on the supporters forum's I have seen either Vertigo Swirl so I guess it works both ways. Perhaps supporters and sceptics are like oil and water - don't mix well.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2018, 05:01:46 PM »
Quote from: Sunny on August 22, 2018, 04:58:24 PM
I don't see much open discussion on the supporters forum's I have seen either Vertigo Swirl so I guess it works both ways. Perhaps supporters and sceptics are like oil and water - don't mix well.
I'm talking about on this forum, I don't pay much attention to any other forum these days. 
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2018, 05:51:23 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on August 22, 2018, 04:57:09 PM
IMO discussion is regularly closed down on this forum by sceptics - those who refuse to answer questions or to be drawn into discussing their opinions, their theories or to say what they really think, who deflect with ad homs, strawmen and other tactics.  I'm all for completely open and honest exchange of views, but that doesn't seem popular with some sceptics.

You managed to type that with a straight face?
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2018, 06:39:37 PM »
Quote from: slartibartfast on August 22, 2018, 12:00:16 PM
We have seen from the Brenda Leyland case that many supporters and sceptics spend a lot of their time having a go at each rather than discussing the case. This even seems to happen on supporter or sceptic forums. Do we think that if one side stopped the other would fade away?

The McCanns created the monster by their own actions so cannot now complain that it has gotten out of control. What started out as shock and compassion for most people has been tainted by the post disappearance goings on, the savage litigation aimed at destroying Amaral, the disgusting comments made against several other Portuguese police officers who were merely doing their job and the secrecy over the fund accounts.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2018, 06:42:52 PM »
Quote from: Angelo222 on August 22, 2018, 06:39:37 PM
The McCanns created the monster by their actions so cannot complain that it has now gotten out of control.

What monster are you referring to
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2018, 06:46:25 PM »
The McCann's didn't create the net
Nor forums
Nor hatred
Nor abuse
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2018, 06:49:01 PM »
Quote from: slartibartfast on August 22, 2018, 05:51:23 PM
You managed to type that with a straight face?
Yes, why?  I always answer questions put to me, and actively want to discuss opinions and theories.  Is it your opinion that I am wrong to say what I did about sceptics on this forum? 
« Last Edit: August 22, 2018, 06:52:07 PM by Vertigo Swirl »
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2018, 06:51:10 PM »
Quote from: Angelo222 on August 22, 2018, 06:39:37 PM
The McCanns created the monster by their own actions so cannot now complain that it has gotten out of control. What started out as shock and compassion for most people has been tainted by the post disappearance goings on, the savage litigation aimed at destroying Amaral, the disgusting comments made against several other Portuguese police officers who were merely doing their job and the secrecy over the fund accounts.
You were quite sympathetic towards them until fairly recently and well after most of the above things you mention, so what changed?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2018, 06:55:58 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on August 22, 2018, 04:57:09 PM
IMO discussion is regularly closed down on this forum by sceptics - those who refuse to answer questions or to be drawn into discussing their opinions, their theories or to say what they really think, who deflect with ad homs, strawmen and other tactics.  I'm all for completely open and honest exchange of views, but that doesn't seem popular with some sceptics.

It must be very frustrating when people don't behave the way you think they should. .
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2018, 07:02:38 PM »
Quote from: G-Unit on August 22, 2018, 06:55:58 PM
It must be very frustrating when people don't behave the way you think they should. .
It is frustrating on a discussion forum when people aren’t open about their views, or prefer to be sly and secretive, or not respond at all, yes, though I fully understand the reasons why.  I on the other hand pride myself in answering questions regarding my opinions on the case when asked, and always giving honest answers.  I don’t believe there is any value whatsoever in any of us doing research or trying trying to crack the case, that really only leaves chat, opinions, theories, etc.  I realise your view is the complete opposite, or at least I assume it us from what you’ve said.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2018, 07:09:13 PM »
Quote from: G-Unit on August 22, 2018, 06:55:58 PM
It must be very frustrating when people don't behave the way you think they should. .

It must be. I mean imagine demanding to know what peoples opinions are -then shoot them down with claims of libel. Bejeasus OR demand cites. OR report them to mods to be deleted- KNown as spitting ones dummy out of ones pram. 8)><(
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Offline jassi

Re: Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2018, 07:18:46 PM »
Quote from: Miss Taken Identity on August 22, 2018, 07:09:13 PM
It must be. I mean imagine demanding to know what peoples opinions are -then shoot them down with claims of libel. Bejeasus OR demand cites. OR report them to mods to be deleted- KNown as spitting ones dummy out of ones pram. 8)><(


Very good - just what I thought myself, but didn't get round to posting.  8((()*/

By and large us sceptics don't do theories, preferring to probe and dissect discrepancies in the documentation and enjoting watching supporters tie themselves in knots in an attempt to explain them away   8)--))
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2018, 07:21:24 PM »
Quote from: jassi on August 22, 2018, 07:18:46 PM

Very good - just what I thought myself, but didn't get round to posting.  8((()*/

By and large us sceptics don't do theories, preferring to probe and dissect discrepancies in the documentation and enjoting watching supporters tie themselves in knots in an attempt to explain them away   8)--))

as Ive already posted sceptics dont do theories because they cannot make anything fit with their understanding of teh evidence...no knots required...abduction fits perfectly
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2018, 07:26:49 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on August 22, 2018, 06:49:01 PM
Yes, why?  I always answer questions put to me, and actively want to discuss opinions and theories.  Is it your opinion that I am wrong to say what I did about sceptics on this forum?

To use the vernacular, it was kettle calling the pot grimey ar*e.
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Offline Sunny

Re: Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2018, 07:28:17 PM »
Quote from: Davel on August 22, 2018, 07:21:24 PM
as Ive already posted sceptics dont do theories because they cannot make anything fit with their understanding of teh evidence...no knots required...abduction fits perfectly

Ooh Davel so you are either a sceptic or you have a theory then that you are prepared to share. Come on then I can't wait to read it.
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