Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?

[Mr Gray]

Find it then and see if we can settle this on going debate.   I know G-unit is generally accurate.  But find it if you can.

on this occasion g isnt... it may take me time to find it..and if i do i will accept a full apology

[Robittybob1]

on this occasion g isnt... it may take me time to find it..and if i do i will accept a full apology

As they say don't count your chickens before they hatch.

[Vertigo Swirl]

on this occasion g isnt... it may take me time to find it..and if i do i will accept a full apology

Here you go...
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9242.60

[Alice Purjorick]

have you noticed how many identities alice has had..i have...no names no packdrill

As I posted them all a few weeks ago no ceegar this time chief.

I would imagine it amounts to a slack handful, say five, six or seven.

[Sunny]

Here you go...
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9242.60

So G-Unit in March this year said Martin Grime used the word "suggestive" and Martin Grime DID use the word "suggestive" so what is Davel's point.


My professional opinion as regards to the EVRD's alert indications is that it is
suggestive that this is 'cadaver scent' contaminant. This does not however
suggest a motive or suspect as cross contamination could be as a result of a
number of given scenarios and in any event no evidential or intelligence
reliability can be made from these alerts unless they can be confirmed with
corroborating evidence.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

G-Unit's post
Quote from: Davel on March 10, 2018, 10:12:30 AM
What we are discussing is the false claims, Re grimes opinion... In his, statement grime says it's possible the dog alerted to cadaver... Just possible... Yet G wants to claim his opinion is that they did

He used the word suggestive, not possible. In my opinion changing a witness's words demonstrates that the poster isn't too concerned with accuracy.

A certain supporter website, when criticising the MMRG's leaflet made the same point about the word 'notoriously' was used instead of 'incredibly'.

I have quoted Grime's actual words, not my interpretation of them.

My vote goes to G-Unit.

[Mr Gray]

post by gunit....absolute proof I am right...
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9213.540
Given that Grime's opinion was that these alerts were triggered by cadaver scent, and that the alerts seemed to be suggesting a connection between the site of the missing child's disappearance, her toy, her clothes and her mother's clothes, there had to be an attempt to find corroborating evidence in my opinion.

URL http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9213.msg450539#msg450539

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[Robittybob1]

Have you considered Grime used both words?

"It is my view that it is possible that the EVRD is alerting to cadaver scent
contamination. No evidential or intelligence reliability can be made from this
alert unless it can be confirmed with corroborating evidence. "

"My professional opinion as regards to the EVRD's alert indications is that it is
suggestive that this is 'cadaver scent' contaminant. This does not however
suggest a motive or suspect as cross contamination could be as a result of a
number of given scenarios and in any event no evidential or intelligence
reliability can be made from these alerts unless they can be confirmed with
corroborating evidence."
Both quotes are from http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm.

So it is possible and suggestive.

[Mr Gray]

Have you considered Grime used both words?

"It is my view that it is possible that the EVRD is alerting to cadaver scent
contamination. No evidential or intelligence reliability can be made from this
alert unless it can be confirmed with corroborating evidence. "

"My professional opinion as regards to the EVRD's alert indications is that it is
suggestive that this is 'cadaver scent' contaminant. This does not however
suggest a motive or suspect as cross contamination could be as a result of a
number of given scenarios and in any event no evidential or intelligence
reliability can be made from these alerts unless they can be confirmed with
corroborating evidence."
Both quotes are from http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm.

So it is possible and suggestive.

g posted ..Given that Grime's opinion was that these alerts were triggered by cadaver scent,

g is WRONG ...and i am right   hence apologies...and g has no credibility imo

[Robittybob1]

g posted ..Given that Grime's opinion was that these alerts were triggered by cadaver scent,

g is WRONG ...and i am right   hence apologies...and g has no credibility imo

The sentence was her opinion  and if her opinion is wrong tell her and move on.  "Given that Grime's opinion was that these alerts were triggered by cadaver scent, and that the alerts seemed to be suggesting a connection between the site of the missing child's disappearance, her toy, her clothes and her mother's clothes, there had to be an attempt to find corroborating evidence in my opinion. "

I suppose it could be argued the "in my opinion" doesn't cover the whole post.   Look it is opinion in my opinion.

Had she said "Given that Grime's opinion was that these alerts were possibly triggered by cadaver scent," that would have been more correct.

[G-Unit]

post by gunit....absolute proof I am right...
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9213.540
Given that Grime's opinion was that these alerts were triggered by cadaver scent, and that the alerts seemed to be suggesting a connection between the site of the missing child's disappearance, her toy, her clothes and her mother's clothes, there had to be an attempt to find corroborating evidence in my opinion.

#

As I recall there was a disagreement over the meaning of the word 'suggestive' in Grime's quote.

snip/
thats right he said its suggestive...he didnt say cadaver odour triggered ther alert as you did...can you still not see your mistake
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9252.msg454170#msg454170

suggestive Synonyms

eloquent, expressive, meaning, meaningful, pregnant, revealing, revelatory, significant
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/suggestive

[Mr Gray]

As I recall there was a disagreement over the meaning of the word 'suggestive' in Grime's quote.

snip/
thats right he said its suggestive...he didnt say cadaver odour triggered ther alert as you did...can you still not see your mistake
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9252.msg454170#msg454170

suggestive Synonyms

eloquent, expressive, meaning, meaningful, pregnant, revealing, revelatory, significant
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/suggestive

I've suplied the quote by you and you are, still denying it... Lol

[Robittybob1]

As I recall there was a disagreement over the meaning of the word 'suggestive' in Grime's quote.

snip/
thats right he said its suggestive...he didnt say cadaver odour triggered ther alert as you did...can you still not see your mistake
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9252.msg454170#msg454170

suggestive Synonyms

eloquent, expressive, meaning, meaningful, pregnant, revealing, revelatory, significant
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/suggestive

Whatever word you use it was not absolute proven to be cadaver odour, and knowing what Grime's opinion was is also  dependent on what he actually says.

[Mr Gray]

g posted ..Given that Grime's opinion was that these alerts were triggered by cadaver scent


There is no suggestive... Or possible there.. Gunit is, wrong

[Mr Gray]

Whatever word you use it was not absolute proven to be cadaver odour, and knowing what Grime's opinion was is also  dependent on what he actually says.

Gunit claimed it was absolute ..I've posted the cite... No misunderstanding

[Mr Gray]

I've shown that gunit.. A leading sceptic... Does not understand  what grime had said... Point proven