Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?

[Mr Gray]

...and I am pointing out that as she quoted Grimes exact words in the same post her interpretation of them based on the meaning of the word suggestive is a valid opinion to have.

You need to read it again..


Given that Grime's opinion was that these alerts were triggered by cadaver scent...


It is not given that this is Grimes opinion... The statement is false

[G-Unit]

We seem to be seeing some passion now, don't we? I've been pursued on and off for months because another poster thinks he's right and I'm wrong. As the disagreement is over the interpretation of someone's words neither party can 'prove' anything, it comes down to opinions in my opinion..

I suggest it stops now and we agree to disagree because no-one can win an argument about opinion.

[slartibartfast]

You need to read it again..


Given that Grime's opinion was that these alerts were triggered by cadaver scent...


It is not given that this is Grimes opinion... The statement is false

'False' positives are always a possibility; to date Eddie has not so indicated
operationally or in training. In six years of operational deployment in over 200
criminal case searches the dog has never alerted to meat based and
specifically pork foodstuffs designed for human consumption. Similarly the
dog has never alerted to 'road kill', that is any other dead animal.
My experience as a trainer is that false alerts are normally caused by handler
cueing. All indications by the dog are preceded by a change in bahaviour.
This increased handler confidence in the response. This procedure also stops
handlers 'cueing' and indication. The dogs are allowed to 'free search' and
investigate areas of interest. The handler does not influence their behaviour
other than to direct the search.

I don’t believe Grime thought the dogs alerted to anything else.

[Mr Gray]

We seem to be seeing some passion now, don't we? I've been pursued on and off for months because another poster thinks he's right and I'm wrong. As the disagreement is over the interpretation of someone's words neither party can 'prove' anything, it comes down to opinions in my opinion..

I suggest it stops now and we agree to disagree because no-one can win an argument about opinion.

It is not about interpretation... It's, about you posting something that isn't true... As I have clearly shown

[slartibartfast]

It is not about interpretation... It's, about you posting something that isn't true... As I have clearly shown

But not your original claim, nor your second claim but a third claim that was discussed nearly 6 months ago. Please desist.

[G-Unit]

It is not about interpretation... It's, about you posting something that isn't true... As I have clearly shown

OK, what, in your opinion, is untrue in my post?

Grime's opinion was that these alerts were triggered by cadaver scent"

[Mr Gray]

OK, what, in your opinion, is untrue in my post?

Grime's opinion was that these alerts were triggered by cadaver scent"

That statement is untrue... Grimes opinion was that the, alerts, were suggestive of cadaver scent..

Nowhere has grime said the alerts were triggerred by cadaver scent

[G-Unit]

That statement is untrue... Grimes opinion was that the, alerts, were suggestive of cadaver scent..

Nowhere has grime said the alerts were triggerred by cadaver scent

Define 'suggestive'.

[Mr Gray]

Define 'suggestive'.

You are trying to show your interpretation supports what you have said...you seem to want to quote your opinion as, fact


Grime used the words possible and suggestive... Neither imply certainty

[G-Unit]

You are trying to show your interpretation supports what you have said...youvseem to want to quite your opinion as, fact

Are you saying that the whole argument arose because I didn't post this?

"In my opinion Grime's opinion was that these alerts were triggered by cadaver scent"

[Mr Gray]

Are you saying that the whole argument arose because I didn't post this?

"In my opinion Grime's opinion was that these alerts were triggered by cadaver scent"

You stated it as fact... When it wasn't... As you now seem to realise

[G-Unit]

You stated it as fact... When it wasn't... As you now seem to realise

I acknowledged back in March that it was my interpretation of what Grime said, so why are you still talking about it?

[Mr Gray]

I acknowledged back in March that it was my interpretation of what Grime said, so why are you still talking about it?

I didn't see your acknowledgement.. It might have been better if you had corrected your post... And why all the denials last night and this morning... Why not just say your post was not correct

[slartibartfast]

I didn't see your acknowledgement.. It might have been better if you had corrected your post... And why all the denials last night and this morning... Why not just say your post was not correct

Probably because it wasn’t what you originally complained about.

[Mr Gray]

Probably because it wasn’t what you originally complained about.

I think its setled now and gunit has admitted her error