Return of the Inspector to the crime scene - Goncalo Interview

[Gertrude]

You could be onto something there.  I said Amaral is losing it.  Dementia can happen to anyone as they get older.

Why is it such a crazy theory and why would Amaral have dementia? He was there and observed what happened whilst we were not, he says special branch escorted the McCanns from the airport and we have a possible statement concerning child abuse that seems to be largely ignored by UK police. Credit card checks past 6 months denied by UK home office.

 IMO only those who don't weigh up possibilities objectively resort to labelling people 'conspiracy theorists' or insane.  MI5 do recruit members of the public for information which is not fantasy but factual. It is a possibility and not proven either way like many things in this case.
 

[barrier]

Why is it such a crazy theory and why would Amaral have dementia? He was there and observed what happened whilst we were not, he says special branch escorted the McCanns from the airport and we have a possible statement concerning child abuse that seems to be largely ignored by UK police. Credit card checks past 6 months denied by UK home office.

 IMO only those who don't weigh up possibilities objectively resort to labelling people 'conspiracy theorists' or insane.  MI5 do recruit members of the public for information which is not fantasy but factual. It is a possibility and not proven either way like many things in this case.
 

Got to be labelled Gertrude,can't just be some one with an opinion,what,what.

[Gertrude]

I dont think accusing teh mccanns of sneaking into a church and hiding their daighters body in a coffin is very polite

 Should the police be polite in a criminal investigation?

  What Amaral actually said is that it was a possibility that should be investigated and not that it was the McCanns that definitely did it. It could have been anyone, just as the death that was possibly scented by the dogs in 5a. All of these things warrant investigation and could result in finding out who was responsible. 

 IMO i find it odd that supporters of McCanns and the family themselves never want anything investigating by PJ that concerns a death, even though anyone could be responsible.

[barrier]

Should the police be polite in a criminal investigation?

  What Amaral actually said is that it was a possibility that should be investigated and not that it was the McCanns that definitely did it. It could have been anyone, just as the death that was possibly scented by the dogs in 5a. All of these things warrant investigation and could result in finding out who was responsible. 

 IMO i find it odd that supporters of McCanns and the family themselves never want anything investigating by PJ that concerns a death, even though anyone could be responsible.

Very good points,yet when OG can't find no evidence to conclude after throwing millions and upward of 30 officers at one stage at it ,its all right cause they know what they are doing and all avenues have to be examined.

[Brietta]

I dont think accusing teh mccanns of sneaking into a church and hiding their daighters body in a coffin is very polite

The notion of cremation wasn't a new one in my opinion since the original investigation had checked out the possibility that Madeleine had been disposed of in an animal crematorium http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/HOOS_HENDRIK.htm which in my opinion was a valid line of inquiry.
Although I would imagine not in relation to Madeleine's parents or their friends involvement since that really opens a whole new scenario to explain exactly how.

The dog crematorium was a physical reality but in my opinion the phantom three and their accompanying bundle is a fantasy only a fevered brain could conjure up in a theory littered with anonymous observers from cooks to jurists to waiters and Irish girls having a fly puff.

[Eleanor]

Why is it such a crazy theory and why would Amaral have dementia? He was there and observed what happened whilst we were not, he says special branch escorted the McCanns from the airport and we have a possible statement hinting at child abuse that seems to be largely ignored by UK police. Credit card checks past 6 months denied by UK home office.

 IMO only those who don't weigh up possibilities objectively resort to labelling people 'conspiracy theorists' or insane.  MI5 do recruit members of the public for information which is not fantasy but factual. It is a possibility and not proven either way like many things in this case.
 

What possible statement of Child Abuse?  I need a Cite for that.

[Mr Gray]

Should the police be polite in a criminal investigation?

  What Amaral actually said is that it was a possibility that should be investigated and not that it was the McCanns that definitely did it. It could have been anyone, just as the death that was possibly scented by the dogs in 5a. All of these things warrant investigation and could result in finding out who was responsible. 

 IMO i find it odd that supporters of McCanns and the family themselves never want anything investigating by PJ that concerns a death, even though anyone could be responsible.

Amaral is not a policeman.... What about due process... Has that been abandoned.. If amaral has concerns take them to the PJ... Plus he has no evidence to support this crazy suggestion

[Robittybob1]

What possible statement hinting at Child Abuse?  I need a Cite for that.

You know the one , those Doctors on holiday with Paynes and the McCanns.

[Brietta]

You know the one , those Doctors on holiday with Paynes and the McCanns.

No we don't.  You did not make the post.  The poster will have to clarify what was said by providing a link as per request.  So far this morning I believe there have been three such requests from moderators (including yours which I think was answered) and I have not as yet seen any cite provided certainly not by the poster for this one.

As far as the integrity of the threads is concerned it is a joke that members feel free to ignore legitimate requests from moderators.

[Robittybob1]

No we don't.  You did not make the post.  The poster will have to clarify what was said by providing a link as per request.  So far this morning I believe there have been three such requests from moderators (including yours which I think was answered) and I have not as yet seen any cite provided certainly not by the poster for this one.

As far as the integrity of the threads is concerned it is a joke that members feel free to ignore legitimate requests from moderators.

I can't remember the name, something like Casper or whatever.  I thought Eleanor must have forgotten too.

[Brietta]

I can't remember the name, something like Casper or whatever.  I thought Eleanor must have forgotten too.

There are many such allegations therefore only the poster can provide a cite to the one referred to.

[Sunny]

I can't remember the name, something like Casper or whatever.  I thought Eleanor must have forgotten too.

Is there any reason to provide this cite? I am sure there are none on here who don't know who's police statement was being discussed, and yes Rob their name sounds a bit like Casper.

If you require Brietta I will happily provide the cite but I am not sure how it is relevant with regards to this thread.

Edited what other such "allegations" are there? Perhaps you can provide a cite for them.

[Gertrude]

What possible statement hinting at Child Abuse?  I need a Cite for that.

The Gaspar statement, which as everybody here likely knows is in the PJ files. Dr Katherine Gaspar thought she might have overheard a conversation of a sexual nature involving children.


http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=5775.0

[Robittybob1]

The Gaspar statement, which as everybody here likely knows is in the PJ files. Dr Katherine Gaspar thought she might have overheard a conversation of a sexual nature involving children.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=5775.0

Are we even allowed to discuss that statement on the forum.  I'd rather drop it and keep the thread from being deleted please.  Gertrude Delete your claim and get back on topic please.

[Gertrude]

Amaral is not a policeman.... What about due process... Has that been abandoned.. If amaral has concerns take them to the PJ... Plus he has no evidence to support this crazy suggestion

No, he was just the leading policeman and coordinator of the case. As the leading theory was that the child had died and the body was concealed, it is not unreasonable to say various methods of disposal should have been investigated. Amaral was quoted as saying, 'We had information three figures went into the church via a side door at night.''
            'We had' as in the PJ, in the past tense had a witness statement.